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Around 0200 CDT Fox News commenter said that the EPA is closely monitoring the water and air quality in the area, and that the mess has largely been cleaned up.

If that's what the EPA is saying, the opposite is probably the truth.

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Mark123 -- It looks like it's floating up your way. Be careful!

Yeah, my house is about 16 miles from East Palestine, OH. We’ve had some interesting sunsets but nothing smells. And I’m kinda sensitive to bad smells...

I'm very suspect of the two-day migraine that you mentioned to me in your text on Feb 7th. I hope it was from too much SF and not enough guitar time rather than from breathing new and improved railway-reopener accelerant. …

I was thinking about that, too.

I guess Booty Jay was able to quit breast feeding long enough to make a statement.


Buttigieg Breaks Silence on Ohio Train Derailment After Backlash

https://www.theepochtimes.com/...3Hl0zxzq4wkFdAmHmklt

Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg has broken his silence on the disastrous derailment of a train in Ohio that released a toxic chemical, sparking health concerns.

The fiery crash in East Palestine, Ohio, on Feb. 3 involved about 50 cars, with some carrying hazardous materials, including the highly flammable chemical vinyl chloride.

The dangerous toxin was released into the air from five of the derailed cars before crews ignited it to get rid of the highly flammable chemical in a controlled fashion.

Area residents were evacuated because of the health risks from the fumes, though they have since been allowed back to their homes.

So far, there have been reports from local residents of animals dying off, including fish, chickens, and livestock.

Few federal officials have made public statements regarding the derailment and the toxic fire, and Buttigieg did not reference the incident during a Feb. 13 appearance at the National Association of Counties Legislative Conference in Washington.

‘Actively Engaged’
During the on-stage discussion, Buttigieg touched on topics like racial disparity and mentioned the safety risks of “balloons,” drawing laughs from the audience. But his avoidance of the topic of the derailment and the toxic chemical release didn’t go over well on social media, where critics complained that he seemed to be dodging the subject.

Buttigieg broke his silence following the criticism, posting on Twitter a series of statements.

“I continue to be concerned about the impacts of the Feb 3 train derailment near East Palestine, OH, and the effects on families in the ten days since their lives were upended through no fault of their own,” he said in a post on Twitter.

He made reference to an investigation into the accident being conducted by the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB), noting that the Department of Transportation (DOT) was assisting with the probe.

“Our Federal Rail Administration and Pipelines and Hazardous Materials teams were onsite within hours of the initial incident and continue to be actively engaged,” he said.

“We will look to these investigation results & based on them, use all relevant authorities to ensure accountability and continue to support safety,” Buttigieg continued.

He said that the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) had screened 291 homes for both indoor and outdoor air quality and that there were “no detections” of dangerous chemicals. Another 181 homes remain to be checked, he added.

In a Feb. 13 update, EPA said that community air monitoring in East Palestine was running 24 hours a day and that, so far, the network of monitoring stations “did not detect anything above the action level.”

A day prior, EPA said that the duration of community air monitoring would eventually be phased out in consultation with local authorities.

“Air monitoring since the fire went out has not detected any levels of concern in the community that can be attributed to the incident at this time,” the EPA’s Feb. 12 statement reads.

“Residents may still smell odors from the site. If you experience symptoms, Columbiana County Health Department recommends calling your medical provider.”

The incident marked the third train derailment in Ohio since October 2022.

‘Grave Danger of Death’
On Feb. 6, Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine and Pennsylvania Gov. Josh Shapiro ordered the evacuation of a 2-mile by 1-mile zone spanning the state line due to the presence of vinyl chloride.

A statement from DeWine cited the presence of the toxic chemical in five boxcars, announcing that the possibility of a devastating explosion would be mitigated through a controlled release later that day.

The statement said that residents who stayed near the controlled release risked “grave danger of death.”

After the vinyl chloride release, DeWine and other officials said on Feb. 8 that residents near the incident could return to their homes.

Residents of nearby communities have reported that animals on their properties have been sickened or even died, raising concerns about the risk to livestock and humans.

‘Get The Hell Out Of There’
Erin Brockovich, the consumer advocate made famous by the eponymous movie, took to Twitter to say that she’s trying to gather more information about the incident, while urging area residents to trust their senses and act accordingly if they experience anything worrying.

“I’m trying to gather information on this very serious situation in Ohio involving a train derailment with hazardous chemicals,” Brockovich wrote on Twitter over the weekend. “What I will say is this. Trust your eyes, ears and nose and get the hell out of there if your senses are telling you too [sic].”

On Monday afternoon, Brockovich—who was the subject of the 2000 Academy Award-winning film “Erin Brockovich”—called on the federal government to be more transparent.

“The Biden administration needs to get more involved in this #PalestineOhio train derailment now. We are counting on you to break the chain of administration after administration to turn a blind eye. STEP UP NOW,” she wrote.

Meanwhile, a West Virginia water utility has enhanced its water treatment process as a precaution following the derailment.

West Virginia American Water said Sunday that there hasn’t been any change in raw water at its Ohio River intake.

“The health and safety of our customers is a priority, and there are currently no drinking water advisories in place for customers,” the company said in a statement.

It added that it is planning to install a secondary intake on the Guyandotte River in case there’s a need to switch to an alternate water source.

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Originally posted by flashguy:
Around 0200 CDT Fox News commenter said that the EPA is closely monitoring the water and air quality in the area, and that the mess has largely been cleaned up.

If that's what the EPA is saying, the opposite is probably the truth.

On a whim, I looked up who's running the EPA. Not that any of us would be surprised:

Michael Stanley Regan[3] (born August 6, 1976) is an American environmental regulator. He has been serving as the 16th administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency since March 11, 2021.[4] He is the first African American man to serve in the role.[4]

Regan has formerly served as the secretary of North Carolina's Department of Environmental Quality and air quality specialist in the United States Environmental Protection Agency (EPA). His elevation to that role was widely praised by environmental groups because of his track record for addressing environmental racism and supporting policy to address climate change.

I wouldn't let that agency clean my toilet, let alone tell me that my groundwater and air is safe.

WTF is "environmental racism"? Not enough black trees?

In Ohio we have the Ohio EPA. They would have been in the decision loop on this.

It would have not been the US EPA calling all of the shots.

Not that the Ohio EPA is any better, but many classmates of mine are upper level folks there now and the have their heads on straight. Even they say the whole situation is a cluster-fuck.

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Several people made the comment that there are 1700 train derailments every year in the USA. That in itself is scary.

flashguy

Don't stress about that number, a very very very large percentage of them are benign. Something as simple as a couple wheels hopping off the tracks at low speeds. I was in a few in my short time in the railroad. A few wood chocks and some track repair and you're good to go.

Originally posted by wcb6092:

“Air monitoring since the fire went out has not detected any levels of concern in the community that can be attributed to the incident at this time,” the EPA’s Feb. 12 statement reads.


What does this mean? “We‘ve detected dangerous chemicals in the air but can’t say their from the derailment.” Our government is a freakin joke.

For those who were questioning the arrest of the reporter, the Attorney General dropped the charges and made a statement.

If you want the short version, no crime was committed, and the tax payers will be funding the incoming lawsuit.

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I totally understand you thinking that with that image. But it looked exactly that way. There was an inversion layer that day. It was all over the local TV news. And the animal deaths had made the local news with real locals with dead chickens and there were many reports of dead fish all over the place.

Given the information which is now coming to light, I realize that the only manufactured portions of this story are those being put out by the Biden administration.

Our Transportation Secretary, Pete Buttbanger, is a disgrace and he appears to be completely incompetent, and that's just for starters.

How much clearer does it have to be to the American public that the Biden administration has no regard whatsoever for us? The Biden administration showcases the worst of the worst this country has to offer.

My heart goes out to the people in the area of this environmental disaster. Imagine living there right now. What must the lives of these unfortunate people be like right now, when they feel that everything around them, including the air they breathe, is poisoned?

I don't want to say anything further about this right now because after looking at all the evidence, I am beyond angry and indignant at the utter indifference of the America-crushing insects in the Biden administration. These people know no shame.

^^^Seriously, imagine living there...I suspect many (most?) can't afford to move, AND can't afford to stay either!

When we had the shipping container fiasco a couple of years ago with more than 100+ ships anchored offshore waiting for a long to be offloaded in the ports of Long Beach and San Pedro, Pete was the problem solver.

Some of it was a work slowdown by the unions that work the ports but by and large it was other causes and the optics of having ships offshore waiting to deliver goods to Americans was bad and the Administration needed to do something about it.

They did - By telling the ships to hold off the horizon and out of eyesight of the shore so it didn't look bad. The also told the shipping companies to slow walk their trips from the ports of origin. Pete had no real solutions.

He's already getting roasted for claiming it's a Trump problem when it started under Obama and a Trump did was follow up on the Obama era studies. Next, Brilliant Pete will claim that he has evidence that Trump himself sabotaged the train.

I think managing his city's bus fleet was about the height of his competence for the job.

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I think managing his city's bus fleet was about the height of his competence for the job.

I suspect he didn't do well there, either.

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And for some bit of humor for the thread:

https://babylonbee.com/news/il...rning-its-in-america

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Babylon Bee: Ilhan Omar Withdraws Support For East Palestine After Learning It’s In America

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And for some bit of humor for the thread:

https://babylonbee.com/news/il...rning-its-in-america

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Babylon Bee: Ilhan Omar Withdraws Support For East Palestine After Learning It’s In America

Hahaha. That’s great.

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And for some bit of humor for the thread:

https://babylonbee.com/news/il...rning-its-in-america

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Babylon Bee: Ilhan Omar Withdraws Support For East Palestine After Learning It’s In America

Hahaha. That’s great.

"Oh... East Palestine is just a small town in Ohio? Is that where all the white people live?" said a disappointed Omar to her brother while they were out on a Valentine's Day date. "Who cares about Ohio? Some trains did something. Who cares?"

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I think managing his city's bus fleet was about the height of his competence for the job.

I suspect he didn't do well there, either.

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I live about an hour from South Bend. He was worse than worthless as a mayor, too. Back before he ran for president, there was an officer involved shooting in South Bend where a guy pulled a knife on an officer and ended up getting shot and killed as a result. Good ol mayor Pete made a bunch of statements about race and the police and tried to throw the cop under the bus. That told me everything I needed to know about that piece of shit.

One of my co-workers, who is a liberal and a big Pete fan, asked me what I thought he should have said. I responded, "if you try to stab one of my cops it's likely that you're gonna get shot." Seemed pretty straightforward to me.

ETA, fwiw, one of our Republican Senators, Mike Braun, pulled some similar crap after a different incident, and I've got no use for him, either. If you want to be a leader and are going to run for office, demonstrate some backbone and be able to stand up for what's right, regardless of cultural pressure. If you can't handle that, you're the wrong guy for the job.

https://twitter.com/nicksortor...327835668320256?s=20



Where the Fuck is FEMA!

FEMA has rejected the request for emergency disaster relief for this area?

Anyone who is still in doubt that the Biden administration and the US government in general hates us, is a damn fool.

If the people who live in that area were anything but white FEMA would be falling all over itself to grant assistance.

^^^^^ or Mexican, Honduran, Venezuelan etc.