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What are your thoughts on the current organization against the west by Russia/Putin and China/Xi?


Modern Russia has often use the Olympics as timing for an invasion. Seems like we’re getting a big middle finger from those 2 fellas and that Taiwan will happen within 30 days.

How do you not take advantage of a Biden at the helm of America?

This is extremely difficult to watch. You?





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I'm just sitting here wondering what happened to WWIII and how I missed it.


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I'm just sitting here wondering what happened to WWIII and how I missed it.


Really… The past 20 years since 9/11 just blew right by you?





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I'm just sitting here wondering what happened to WWIII and how I missed it.


Really… The past 20 years since 9/11 just blew right by you?


Uhhhh…what?

Since when was that ever considered WWIII?


 
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I'm just sitting here wondering what happened to WWIII and how I missed it.


Really… The past 20 years since 9/11 just blew right by you?




Uhhhh…what?

Since when was that ever considered WWIII?



Since now





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Seems likely Russia will take Ukraine. They are not in NATO and no one in Europe owes them any defense. Putin knows this and knows we will not get into a shooting war with him. Nuclear powers cannot fight face to face, ever. We may advise Ukraine and send them money/arms, but getting American soldiers killed over this could very likely lead to Biden getting removed from office. The 10,000-ish troops we have there now are a minor deterrent that Russia will likely ignore.

China could take Taiwan too, but only if they can without having to destroy want they want - the chip fabs. Taiwan would be smart to tell China that any invasion will result in the self-destruction of the fabs.

Taiwan has never declared independence or sovereignty. Taiwan is where Chiang Kai Shek, leader of the Republic of China from 1928 to 1949, and his government went after Mao and the communists took over. Interestingly, the ROC was favored by the coastal elites involved in international trade, while the CCP and PRC came from the interior and were supported by the poor farmers. After exiling to Taiwan, Chiang never conceded to Mao and declared his was the rightful government of China until his death in 1975.

Taiwan has been in a state of limbo ever since. Carter screwed things up by nullifying an earlier defense treaty, refusing to refer to Taiwan as the ROC, and refusing to guaranty any defense in case of PRC attack. The US agreed to supply arms to Taiwan, and use embargoes, boycotts, and other economic actions against China as needed.

My guess would be he did this to favor Deng Xiao Ping and his reforms in the PRC that started opening up the country to foreign investment. But like his other foreign policy policies and those of his ilk (Obama, Biden) he favored communists and terrorists every single time.

We aren't going to get in a shooting war with China over Taiwan either, because China is a nuclear power. So that does increase the odds of a two-front attack coordinated with Russia just to embarrass the US even more than it already is with Biden in office.

And if Biden embargoes Chinese goods coming into the US, he will be investigated and impeached just like Trump. Too many companies in the US with too much money and too many connections in government and media depend on imports of goods from China, and exports when it comes to media (movies) and professional sports. The more I watch how this is playing out the more I realize that this single action of Trump - increasing tariffs against China and speaking of taking manufacturing back from them - is THE reason the media/tech/business/deep state had to get him out of office. Had he not done this, he likely would still be President. Border security, lower taxes, energy independence, and loosening of regulations were all good for business (or at worst indifferent) and the economy and we had a good run for a few years. CEO's and boards of directors were happy, profits were up, stock market was up, etc. But the threat of significantly increased costs for Chinese goods was bad for them - too much risk if Trump stayed in office.
 
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Good answer, Lefty Sig.



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Originally posted by Jester814:
I'm just sitting here wondering what happened to WWIII and how I missed it.


Really… The past 20 years since 9/11 just blew right by you?




Uhhhh…what?

Since when was that ever considered WWIII?



Since now


Since never. Confused
 
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My thread, my count.

How long and how many countries have to be involved before you officially declare a war, a world war?

It’s a tertiary issue in this thread anywho …





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It’s not only how many countries but how many different places at once. How big a region.

But yes, your thread.
 
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It’s a tertiary issue in this thread anywho …


Yet you literally put it in the thread title Roll Eyes

This is silly, YOU don’t get to just decide that the past 20+ years was “WWIII”

I’m out.


 
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It’s a tertiary issue in this thread anywho …


Yet you literally put it in the thread title Roll Eyes

This is silly, YOU don’t get to just decide that the past 20+ years was “WWIII”

I’m out.


Lol ty





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Lots of Navy jets flying around the 757. Sure there is always jet noise in the 757 but it’s not always like this.


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How disappointing. I thought this was gonna be about Wrestling. I guess the thread title fooled me.
 
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If I were an enemy of America yeah I’d probably take advantage of a potato being president of the USA.


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Lots of Navy jets flying around the 757. Sure there is always jet noise in the 757 but it’s not always like this.


Used to see the F/A18s zoom over the base golf-course out to the ship. Spent some time in Norfolk/Newport News.





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a potato being president of the USA.


You fools voted for that idiot, not me.


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I don’t think many people here voted for the potato. I sure as fuck didn’t.


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a potato being president of the USA.


You fools voted for that idiot, not me.


Say what, brah?


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