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We just recently got rid of VCR's in the aircraft that was used to record FLIR. Could buy the tales anywhere "Blessed is he who when facing his own demise, thinks only of his front sight.” Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem Montani Semper Liberi | |||
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This kind of cheap shot sniping - especially yours - is really getting old in this thread. Please pardon my bluntness but pray tell, when did you serve your country by going to sea in a USN warship? When in your Naval service and on what type(s) of [USN] ships did you come to the above realizations? You will certainly improve your credibility with me by sharing your in-depth background. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "And it's time that particularly, some of our corporations learned, that when you get in bed with government, you're going to get more than a good night's sleep." - Ronald Reagan | |||
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That link comes back as "restricted access." Any work around/alternate link/source? Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me. When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown | |||
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The Zumwalt-class cruiser/destroyer does that exactly with it's VLS canisters ringing the perimeter of the ship. Unfortunately for the transformationalists, that ship along with it's little sister the LCS, are held up as examples of what not to do when designing and engineering a ship. | |||
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Try this link: https://news.usni.org/2017/08/...s-punishments-coming | |||
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jimmy's link above is a good one. The original source was the official navy report on DDG 62 (Fitzgerald) (as a reminder we are talking about DDG 62 in the report, not DDG 56) from the report: At the time of the collision, the DCA was asleep in her rack. She woke up when she felt the ship lurch. The collision alarm then sounded and the DCA quickly dressed and proceeded to CCS. From there, she directed DC efforts, sounded the GQ alarm using the general shipboard announcement system (1MC), and set primary and secondary boundaries (a first and second line of defense to control the spread of the flooding). and from the time line in the report: approx. 0130 Collision w Crystal 0132 FTZ sounds collision alarm https://assets.documentcloud.o...Supplemental-Aug.pdf | |||
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Warships are designed to absorb battle damage, not peacetime collisions with freighters. Therefore, in an expected combat scenario, the crew berths would be empty during Battle Stations situations. So, torps and missiles would hit empty compartments (nobody sleeps through a battle stations condition). Fear God and Dread Nought Admiral of the Fleet Sir Jacky Fisher | |||
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Stand-by for "that guy" to pop in and tell you, you are wrong... "Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor.” Robert A. Heinlein “You may beat me, but you will never win.” sigmonkey-2020 “A single round of buckshot to the torso almost always results in an immediate change of behavior.” Chris Baker | |||
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I love it! | |||
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That's not how they would do it on Star Trek. God Bless and Protect President Donald John Trump. VOTE EARLY TO BEAT THE CHEAT!!! | |||
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Water tight hatches and bulkheads can be opened or closed from both sides. So you can close and latch them depending on which side of that water tight door is flooding. The problem most of the time is, in a mostly flooded compartment you wouldn't have enough leverage to open them. Safety of the ship is the number one priority. It is best to save many (rest of the crew), than just a few crew at the expense of many. | |||
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Your an IDIOT | |||
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Uhhh, dude... ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan | |||
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Moi? Mais bien sûr. God Bless and Protect President Donald John Trump. VOTE EARLY TO BEAT THE CHEAT!!! | |||
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My father used to be a Merchant Marine after he got out of the US Navy. He was speaking recently with another MM and he had a theory that there may be a possibility that these merchants ships are intentionally ramming US Navy ships in hopes of getting some pay out from their insurance and the US Government. He said that the US Navy will not fire upon a merchant ship because if they did even as self defense, world public outcry would be very bad for the US Navy firing on an unarmed merchant ship. Just a theory. God Bless  "Always legally conceal carry. At the right place and time, one person can make a positive difference." | |||
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Wouldn't the AIS show that? Beside a destroyer should be able to run circles around a tanker, with one propeller tied behind its aft, just to make it fair. God Bless and Protect President Donald John Trump. VOTE EARLY TO BEAT THE CHEAT!!! | |||
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*You're* Besides, at whom are you directing your insult? The post right above this one was 100% correct about water-tight doors. Save the ship, and THEN worry about saving lives. It's what happened with the Fitz (shutting in 7 sailors in order to save the ship), and it's what they did here. And, by the way, childish name-calling like this is generally frowned upon here. Fear God and Dread Nought Admiral of the Fleet Sir Jacky Fisher | |||
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Utterly absurd hypothesis. ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan | |||
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Wait until the insurance companies figure out they are being fiddled with. I bet it is hard to book a load of freight if you can't be insured. No, the overwhelming likelihood is that all the failsafe systems and procedures which almost always prevent these things didn't this time. Someone didn't get the word, someone got confused, misunderstood, etc. I recalled today that a factor in the Stockholm-Andrea Dorea collision of 60 years ago was that the watch officer thought the radar was on a different scale and believed it showed the other ship at 15 or 18 miles away when it was less than 5 miles. Suddenly they popped out of the fog at each other. Something like that. Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me. When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown | |||
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