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Originally posted by greg1147:

To all you CA people stay in fucking CA

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Originally posted by trapper189:
The 4-9 thing actually does make sense. Between 4 and 9, the demand is shifting between where people work and where they live. It’s not a one for one immediate switch where a person leaves the office, turns off the light, goes home, and turns on the light. The office buildings shutdown gradually until the last person makes it home, so there’s overlap as the office buildings shutdown and people get home where demand is higher. This will be especially true if people plug their EVs in as soon as they get home if they weren’t plugged in at the office.

Electricity has to be generated on demand because storage is prohibitively expensive. You can build power plants with enough capacity to cover peak demand, but again, it’s prohibitively expensive because, and I’m making this number up just as an example, 35% of the capacity only gets used 20% of the day. It only makes money during the 20% of the day and it costs money the other 80% of the day. This is why electricity cost more during peak hours; you’re paying for the costs incurred when the capacity isn’t being used.

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Originally posted by RogB:
"Residents have been advised to take voluntary energy cuts, including setting their thermostats to 78 degrees Fahrenheit

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Originally posted by P250UA5:
Step 1: Ban ICE car sales
Step 2: Ban charging of EVs
Step 3: ?

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Originally posted by gearhounds:
Part of the goal as stated is to vastly reduce the ability to travel.

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Originally posted by von Trakehnen:

The idiots in California don't realize that in 2035 there will be only 15 percent as many cars on the road as there are now. All driven by rich democrats, politicians and government employees. Everyone else will walk, ride a bicycle or take public transportation.

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Originally posted by bigdeal:
Attempt to frame it any way you like, California is a GD joke. And any state stupid enough to follow their lead deserves everything they have coming to them.

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Originally posted by gearhounds:
Part of the goal as stated is to vastly reduce the ability to travel. If you can even charge it, one’s EV will get them 100-150 miles when not fully loaded with people and stuff. Then will likely come the isolation and propaganda against those of us lucky enough to live in sane states which will lead to more division between the people that are “trying to save the planet” and the ones killing it with our EVIL fossil fuel ways. Then physical violence ticks up. THEN the ultimate authority, the fed, steps in to pacify the country for its own good.

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Originally posted by von Trakehnen:
The idiots in California don't realize that in 2035 there will be only 15 percent as many cars on the road as there are now. All driven by rich democrats, politicians and government employees. Everyone else will walk, ride a bicycle or take public transportation.

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:

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Originally posted by greg1147:

To all you CA people stay in fucking CA

This pic was taken here in Park City recently.

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Originally posted by trapper189:
The 4-9 thing actually does make sense. Between 4 and 9, the demand is shifting between where people work and where they live. It’s not a one for one immediate switch where a person leaves the office, turns off the light, goes home, and turns on the light. The office buildings shutdown gradually until the last person makes it home, so there’s overlap as the office buildings shutdown and people get home where demand is higher. This will be especially true if people plug their EVs in as soon as they get home if they weren’t plugged in at the office.

Electricity has to be generated on demand because storage is prohibitively expensive. You can build power plants with enough capacity to cover peak demand, but again, it’s prohibitively expensive because, and I’m making this number up just as an example, 35% of the capacity only gets used 20% of the day. It only makes money during the 20% of the day and it costs money the other 80% of the day. This is why electricity cost more during peak hours; you’re paying for the costs incurred when the capacity isn’t being used.

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Originally posted by cas:

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Originally posted by gearhounds:
Part of the goal as stated is to vastly reduce the ability to travel.

You mean keep certain groups of people bunched up and stuck in one place?

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Originally posted by cas:

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Originally posted by gearhounds:
Part of the goal as stated is to vastly reduce the ability to travel.

You mean keep certain groups of people bunched up and stuck in one place?

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Originally posted by lyman:

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Originally posted by P250UA5:
Step 1: Ban ICE car sales
Step 2: Ban charging of EVs
Step 3: ?

step 3 is require you to use Mass Transit

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:

This pic was taken here in Park City recently.