Thanks for the update. If you end up resettling somewhere please let us know. I would gladly donate money to help you restart and prosper.

Tucker Carlson talked about this issue tonight.
He tried to get a State Department guest, but got a ridiculous statement instead...
Also, a good interview with Marian Tupy, Cato Institute, who came here from South Africa.



I would just add that if you don't support private property, you support anarchy and mob rule.

This could end up being a good thing...when the farms are destroyed and a majority of the confiscators end up starving.

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Originally posted by Flyboyrv6:
This could end up being a good thing...when the farms are destroyed and a majority of the confiscators end up starving.

the Clinton Foundation could then raise money to help them out,, just like Haiti,,,


read elsewhere that it may be a possibility once all the confiscations are done that the Chinese may provide aid if needed,

supposedly the Chinese are expanding markets in Africa

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Originally posted by lyman:

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Originally posted by Flyboyrv6:
This could end up being a good thing...when the farms are destroyed and a majority of the confiscators end up starving.

the Clinton Foundation could then raise money to help them out,, just like Haiti,,,


read elsewhere that it may be a possibility once all the confiscations are done that the Chinese may provide aid if needed,

supposedly the Chinese are expanding markets in Africa

Don't forget that SA is home to some of the world's largest diamond and gold mines. I'm sure the Chi-Coms would like to control the world market for those commodities.

Three guesses whose foot will be on whose neck if the Chinese become a power in RSA. Meet the new boss, much worse than the old boss.

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Originally posted by Ripley:
Three guesses whose foot will be on whose neck if the Chinese become a power in RSA. Meet the new boss, much worse than the old boss.

The Socialist Tyrants who rule SA will welcome their new Chinese "allies". Why?
When the famine comes, they will help keep the people in line.

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Originally posted by Veeper:
Thanks for the update. If you end up resettling somewhere please let us know. I would gladly donate money to help you restart and prosper.

Us (TSM11 and me) too. We'll gladly help as much and as quickly as we can. SIGAMT please keep us updated as to what's happening generally and to you spcifically.

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Originally posted by Rotndad:
We'll gladly help as much and as quickly as we can. SIGAMT please keep us updated as to what's happening generally and to you specifically.

+1 If I could help in anyway.

It's criminal to think the results will be other than what they have been throughout history.

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Originally posted by chellim1:

When the famine comes, they will help keep the people in line.

Meet the new in line, much worse than the old in line. I'm thinking be careful what you wish for, unintended consequences, greener grass, eyes bigger than stomachs, a whole human history of lessons unlearned.

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Originally posted by Flyboyrv6:
This could end up being a good thing...when the farms are destroyed and a majority of the confiscators end up starving.

Like this?

“How to Kill a Country”

https://www.theatlantic.com/ma...ll-a-country/302845/

Was Pelindaba facility, and an unknown number of nuclear weapons, really decommissioned?
There was much collaboration between Israel and SA to develop nucs.
Scary.

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when the farms are destroyed and a majority of the confiscators end up starving...

Like this?

“How to Kill a Country”

Smith, a bone-thin eighty-four-year-old, told me that all he ever wanted to do in life was manage his 4,000-acre farm, 220 miles southwest of Harare. He has run the farm since he returned from flying Spitfires for the British in World War II. He grows oranges and seed potatoes, and raises cattle. "I hope I don't sound arrogant," he said, "but you won't find a better-run piece of land." Smith insists that when Mugabe banned him from politics, in 1987, he was glad for the opportunity to return to full-time farming. But in Zimbabwe, where whites owned the finest farmland and most blacks remained dispossessed two decades after independence, politics and land became inseparable. A few days before my visit Smith was reading the morning newspaper when he came across a government notice listing the latest batch of farms designated for seizure by the state. His farm was among them.

Private property is essential to the success of the human condition. Respect for private property is what the 'rule of law' is all about.
When property rights are taken, despots and tyrants take hold. Indeed, “How to Kill a Country”.

It it my understanding that the value of diamonds is due to DeBeers limiting the number to reach the market. What it they decided to flood the market and drive the price down?

Lauren Southern was mentioned earlier but here is her full documentary: (if this was linked earlier and I missed it, I apologize).

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Originally posted by msfzoe:
Was Pelindaba facility, and an unknown number of nuclear weapons, really decommissioned?
There was much collaboration between Israel and SA to develop nucs.
Scary.

I guess you never heard about the break-in back in 2007.
https://www.publicintegrity.or...ains-relations-years

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Originally posted by braillediver:

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Originally posted by Rotndad:
We'll gladly help as much and as quickly as we can. SIGAMT please keep us updated as to what's happening generally and to you specifically.

+1 If I could help in anyway.

It's criminal to think the results will be other than what they have been throughout history.

Thanks a lot for the offers guys. At the moment things are still fine. I am however looking at various exit options and I might add, a lot of other people are also looking at bailing.

We have a general election next year. That may provide clarity. The local media has a colossal left-wing bias and will just not report on any facts or incidents that don't fit in with it's narrative, so it's very hard to get a feel for what's really happening.

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Originally posted by darthfuster:
...and now the predictable gun confiscation...

As Land Confiscations Loom, South Africa Rules 300,000 Gun-Owners Turn Over Their Weapons

South Africa is opening the door for tyranny.

The Constitutional Court of South Africa recently ruled that 300,000 gun owners must turn in their firearms.

This judgement came in response to the North Gauteng High Court’s ruling in 2017 which said Section 24 and Section 28 of the Firearm’s Control Act were unconstitutional.

A report from The Citizen explains what Section 24 and Section 28 entail:

“Section 24 of the Act requires that any person who seeks to renew a licence must do so 90 days before its expiry date Section 28 stipulates that if a firearm licence has been cancelled‚ the firearm must be disposed of or forfeited to the state. A 60-day time frame was placed on its disposal, which was to be done through a dealer.”

Now that the High Court’s initial ruling has been overturned, gun owners who failed to renew their firearms licenses must hand in their firearms to the nearest police station, where authorities will then proceed to destroy them.

Many naïve political observers will paint this event as a casual gun control scheme, but any astute student of politics will recognize that the floodgates are now open for further encroachments – not only on the gun rights of South Africans, but also on others facets of theirs lives.

A look at South Africa’s current political climate will give us an idea of the potential ramifications of this gun control scheme.
Political Trouble Brewing in South Africa?

Though South Africa witnessed rising levels of economic freedom shortly after Apartheid ended in 1994, the country has taken a more interventionist path to economic development in recent years.

This situation is becoming more pronounced with the South African National Assembly recently voting 241-83 to amend the South African constitution to allow for land expropriation without compensation.

The socialist-leaning African National Congress (ANC) and the Economic Freedom Fighters (EFF) parties are leading the charge for expropriation under the banner of fixing racial disparities that have supposedly remained intact since Apartheid’s conclusion.

While land confiscation has not been officially finalized, South Africans should worry about the direction their country is going.

And how does gun control fit into this equation?
Gun Control: A Tool for Tyranny

No matter how socialist apologists rationalize it, the redistributionist agenda the South African government is pursuing will not be implemented passively. Ultimately, it must be carried out by force.

The kind of force socialists seek is a monopolized kind, which extreme forms of gun control like gun confiscation help facilitate.

The history of gun confiscation is one of repeated cases of tyranny.

From countries such as Cuba to the Soviet Union, aspiring demagogues have used gun confiscation to disarm the populace. Logically, an unarmed populace will put up little resistance against their tyrannical acts.

In South Africa’s case, farmers and their workers are already suffering ongoing attacks against their property. One could only imagine what it would be like for these persecuted farmers once they are stripped of their right to self-defense.

For many Americans who have enjoyed historically unprecedented gun rights, South Africa’s gun control experience may seem distant and strange.

But make no mistake about it, South Africa’s latest flirtation with gun control is not based on good intentions, especially when considering the political climate the country is enduring.

South Africa should serve as a fair warning to Americans of the dangerous consequences gun control poses.

How do you suppose they know who has those guns?......he asks rhetorically.