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Big Grin Well, yeah, but are you really surprised to see a competing hotel and casino company jumping on the bandwagon?
 
Posts: 27313 | Location: Deep in the heart of the brush country, and closing on that #&*%!?! roadrunner. Really. | Registered: February 05, 2008Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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For those of us with these accounts, does deleting have any advantage to simply abandoning their service? Personally, I don't want anyone using my personal or business names for their accounts so I don't think deleting is a good idea. Maybe deleting content and then shunning the web sites and apps is a better plan.
 
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Evidently Apple can remove apps like Parlor from your phone.

Here's how to stop it

https://www.citizenfreepress.c...-app-on-your-iphone/
I'm pretty sure that only disallows you from deleting apps from your own phone.
 
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Yeah forums are the closest I get to social media. I would love to see a good alternative to youtube but no luck so far.
 
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Ordering a Pizza in 2021

CALLER:
Is this Pizza Delight?

GOOGLE:
No sir, it's Google Pizza.

CALLER:
I must have dialed a wrong number. Sorry.

GOOGLE:
No sir, Google bought Pizza Delight last month.

CALLER:
OK. I would like to order a pizza.

GOOGLE:
Do you want your usual, sir?

CALLER:
My usual? You know me?

GOOGLE:
According to our caller ID data sheet, the last 12 times you called you ordered an extra-large pizza with three cheeses, sausage, pepperoni, mushrooms and meatballs on a thick crust.

CALLER:
OK! That’s what I want ...

GOOGLE:
May I suggest that this time you order a pizza with ricotta, arugula, sun-dried tomatoes and olives on a whole wheat gluten-free thin crust?

CALLER:
What? I detest vegetable!

GOOGLE:
Your cholesterol is not good, sir.

CALLER:
How the hell do you know!

GOOGLE:
Well, we cross-referenced your home phone number with your medical records. We have the result of your blood tests for the last 7 years.

CALLER:
Okay, but I do not want your rotten vegetable pizza! I already take medication for my cholesterol.

GOOGLE:
Excuse me sir, but you have not taken your medication regularly. According to our database, you purchased only a box of 30 cholesterol tablets once, at Drug RX Network, 4 months ago.

CALLER:
I bought more from another drugstore.

GOOGLE:
That doesn’t show on your credit card statement.

CALLER:
I paid in cash.

GOOGLE:
But you did not withdraw enough cash according to your bank statement.

CALLER:
I have other sources of cash.

GOOGLE:
That doesn’t show on your last tax return unless you bought them using an undeclared income source, which is against the law.

CALLER:
WHAT THE HELL!

GOOGLE:
I'm sorry, sir, we use such information only with the sole intention of helping you.

CALLER:
Enough already! I'm sick to death of Google, Facebook, Twitter, WhatsApp and all the others. I'm going to an island without internet, cable TV, where there is no cell phone service and no one to watch me or spy on me.

GOOGLE:
I understand sir, but you need to renew your passport first. It expired 6 weeks ago...
 
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Add Mozilla to the list, too.

Fuck Chrome, Mozilla and Google.

I installed Brave (Brave.com) and couldn't be happier. DuckDuckGo is the my default search engine.


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Originally posted by mark123:
For those of us with these accounts, does deleting have any advantage to simply abandoning their service?

As noted just a few posts back...

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How Twitter Makes Money
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Advertising and data licensing are the major sources of revenue

Ref: How Twitter Makes Money
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How Facebook Makes Money
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Facebook generates most of its revenue from selling advertising space

Ref: How Facebook Makes Money

Take away eyes = reduces value of web real estate = reduces income.

For the purposes of the above: "Eyes" = subscribers.

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Originally posted by mark123:
Personally, I don't want anyone using my personal or business names for their accounts so I don't think deleting is a good idea.

Nothing stops them from doing that, anyway. E.g.: When I searched on my name when I was still on Facebook, several hits came up.

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Originally posted by mark123:
Maybe deleting content and then shunning the web sites and apps is a better plan.

How? If you have a stale account, you never access Facebook or whatever, somebody fires up an account with the same name: How will you know? And, if somebody does a search and finds two accounts, one stale, one fresh, to which do you suppose they'll gravitate?



"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe
"If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher
 
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Originally posted by mark123:
Personally, I don't want anyone using my personal or business names for their accounts so I don't think deleting is a good idea.

Nothing stops them from doing that, anyway. E.g.: When I searched on my name when I was still on Facebook, several hits came up.

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Originally posted by mark123:
Maybe deleting content and then shunning the web sites and apps is a better plan.

How? If you have a stale account, you never access Facebook or whatever, somebody fires up an account with the same name: How will you know? And, if somebody does a search and finds two accounts, one stale, one fresh, to which do you suppose they'll gravitate?
Well, that's an argument to keep my account active.
 
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I'd agree the only way to reduce FB/Twatter/Amazaps control over us is to stop using them.

However I doubt that is going to happen, I've talked to many who just are not going to fully eliminate FB from their lives, due to family, work, whatever.

Seems the way to these companies is through revenue, and to do that you need to get companies to reduce the funds spent on FB for advertising.

So instead of deleting FB, contact the companies that you follow, let them know you are unliking/unfollowing them, which means less followers, which means lower income opportunity for them, since they advertise and that you won't buy their products from them if it's on FB or available to buy through Amazon.

Get 75 million people to start "unfriending" companies and then you get attention.

FB and Twatter don't think we matter in the overall scheme, and they dont think people will give up iShit, FB and Twatter and Amasuck.

Thats the bet, unfortunately they may be right...
 
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What is Amazon's largest operating expense after employees and infrastructure?

I would guess it is packing, shipping and delivery, correct?

Prime members get free delivery? Cool
 
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Come to think of it, the best thing to do is get 75 million people to short the stock of Twatter, it's the weakest, take it's value down, just keep shorting it daily. Eventually it will be worth little unless corporate america decides to prop it up, either way it could cost Twatter billions.
 
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If you're not using any ad-blocking while on the internet, you need to do so; tech oligarchs who despise you are using you to make money off of online advertising and selling your info.

Either use an ad-blocker or an ad-blocking web browser like Brave

Use a VPN, not necessarily to be anonymous but to screw up advertisement/engagement metrics - which tech companies sell.




...let him who has no sword sell his robe and buy one. Luke 22:35-36 NAV

"Behold, I send you out as sheep in the midst of wolves; so be shrewd as serpents and innocent as doves." Matthew 10:16 NASV
 
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Don't forget to check to see if your Amazon purchase offers Free Returns.

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What is Amazon's largest operating expense after employees and infrastructure?

I would guess it is packing, shipping and delivery, correct?

Prime members get free delivery? Cool




...let him who has no sword sell his robe and buy one. Luke 22:35-36 NAV

"Behold, I send you out as sheep in the midst of wolves; so be shrewd as serpents and innocent as doves." Matthew 10:16 NASV
 
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Originally posted by HRK:
I'd agree the only way to reduce FB/Twatter/Amazaps control over us is to stop using them.

However I doubt that is going to happen, I've talked to many who just are not going to fully eliminate FB from their lives, due to family, work, whatever.

You are probably right. We've seen evidence of it here in SF, just as we did with the NFL, and I'd wager SF membership, overall, is more likely to sacrifice convenience for country than the population at large.

Truth is the vast majority of Americans are unwilling to sacrifice to achieve a goal.

I like to use cable TV as a prime example. The cable TV companies made themselves ubiquitous by at first offering lots of entertainment for a reasonable price. Eventually over-the-air antennas disappeared from rooftops and even the broadcasters became dependent upon the cable TV companies for eyes.

Then, once they'd become "indispensable," the cable companies stuck the knife in. People complained, but never did the one thing that would have fixed the problem: Deprived themselves of their beloved stream of entertainment. So the cable companies kept twisting their knives--and getting away with it.

It wasn't until Internet streaming came along that consumers were provided with a more economical entertainment solution. But watch: The pattern is about to repeat itself. It will repeat itself because of the lessons American consumers taught the cable companies.

You can see it happening even now. E.g.: Once-upon-a-time you could get a pretty decent breadth of entertainment from Netflix. First Starz dumped them over price increases. Then Disney formed its own streaming network, sensing profit to be made. Did consumers tell Disney "The hell you say. We'll do without you, then," thus encouraging Disney to rethink their plans? Nope. Flocked to Disney's new offering in droves.

The people that have been predicting it are right: Eventually streaming will be as expensive as legacy subscription TV was--and still is. Only problem is: These streaming companies have now driven the mom-and-pop DVD/BD rental places out of business, so people who want to save a buck or two won't even have those to which to turn anymore.

When American consumers go looking for someone to blame they'll need only look for the closest mirror.



"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe
"If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher
 
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Prime members get free delivery? Cool

Do you think Amazon would offer that if Prime didn't make them money?

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Don't forget to check to see if your Amazon purchase offers Free Returns.

Or just plain avoid Amazon to the extent possible, then it becomes a non-issue?



"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe
"If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher
 
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Saw this on instapundit:

Biased article but this is what we're up against.

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70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers


Parler, a social network used to plan the storming of the U.S. Capitol last week, has been hit by a massive data scrape. Security researchers collected swaths of user data before the network went dark Monday morning after Amazon, Google, and Apple booted the platform.

The scrape includes user profile data, user information, and which users had administration rights for specific groups within the social network. Twitter user @donk_enby, who first announced about the scrape, claims that over a million video URLs, some deleted and private, were taken.

“These are original, unprocessed, raw files as uploaded to Parler with all associated metadata,” claims one of the authors.

Security researchers claim that the scrapped posts are linked to accounts that posted them, and some of the video and image data have geolocation information. That is said also to include data from Parler’s “Verified Citizens,” users of the network who verified their identity by uploading photographs of government-issued IDs, such as a driver’s license.

The data might prove valuable to law enforcement since many who participated in the riots deleted their posts and videos afterward. The data scrape includes deleted posts, meaning that Parler stored user data after users deleted it.

Parler, a far-right friendly site, was among the key candidates to host President Donald Trump’s social media presence as Twitter and Facebook suspended his accounts for instigating violence.

Parler, which claims to have over 10 million users, has lax rules over content, making the platform very attractive to far-right groups. Google and Apple removed Parler’s smartphone app from their app stores, claiming that the platform allowed posting that seeks to “incite ongoing violence in the U.S..” Amazon took similar measures, removing Parler from its hosting service.

Reddit users claim that the scrape was made possible due Twilio, an American cloud communications platform that provided the platform with phone number verification services, cutting ties with Parler.

In a press release announcing the decision, Twilio revealed which services Parler was using. This information allowed hackers to deduct that it was possible to create users and verified accounts without actual verification.

With this type of access, newly minted users were able to get behind the login box API used for content delivery. That allowed them to see which users had moderator rights and this in turn allowed them to reset passwords of existing users with simple “forgot password” function. Since Twilio no longer authenticated emails, hackers were able to access admin accounts with ease.


https://cybernews.com/news/70t...ecurity-researchers/



I'm guessing that AWS & Twilio worked together after doing a data dump of Parler before closing down Parler, then "security researchers" got hold of the data; I highly doubt anyone hacked anything.


Know your enemy and fight on your terms.




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"Behold, I send you out as sheep in the midst of wolves; so be shrewd as serpents and innocent as doves." Matthew 10:16 NASV
 
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I'm guessing that AWS & Twilio worked together after doing a data dump of Parler before closing down Parler, then "security researchers" got hold of the data; I highly doubt anyone hacked anything.

Whether Amazon and Twilio executed the "hack" or merely enabled it is almost of secondary interest, IMO. Either way it's an indictment of so-called "cloud" services.

"Cloud services" is simply another way of saying "somebody else's servers."

Amusingly: Telling my PHBs that, a couple times when they asked if we should be using "cloud services," was all it took for them to dismiss the idea Smile

The very first step in computer and network security is positive physical control of the hardware. If you lack that, you have no security.

Anybody who tells you differently is blowing smoke up your keister Wink (Or they're utterly incompetent and have no business telling anybody anything about IT security.)



"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe
"If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher
 
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Next is to dump Apple and Google phone.
https://odysee.com/@RobBraxman...g---Ultrasound,-RF:9
Found this guy's the more I listen to his show more I am afraid of my phone, we are almost living under the communist control, these big tec knows everything about you and your family and where you have been.
Lucky I never join these retard social media shit but still I am sure Google knows everything about me.
 
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Next is to dump Apple and Google phone.

Easy to say. Not so easy to do. Even if one can still find flip phones, modern smart phones have become something more than just convenient or cool to have. Could I get rid of my smartphone? Sure I could. That would create a whole raft of problems for me, not the least of which would be loss of my digital keyring.

I will say this: If I hadn't just upgraded our phones and my watch, I wouldn't do so at this time.

There is probably a point at which I'd consider dumping our Apple products. I'm not quite >< there yet.

Ironically: There's something or some things my browser's security features don't like about that link. It won't load it.



"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe
"If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher
 
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Either use an ad-blocker or an ad-blocking web browser like Brave



I really like Brave.


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