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Originally posted by Leemur:
10 more Pmags and 1000 more rounds of ammo headed my way. Scope and mount for the AR10 are waiting for me to pick them up on Friday. Just might throw another stripped lower on the order as well.

The shit they tried to shove through in July had no grandfather clause in it.

I read through the bill and it's quite draconian.

Welcome to Maryland.

After the Dems completely fuck things up in VA as they have in MD, they'll scratch their heads and try to blame someone else. As always.

I'm hoping I'm wrong, but gun laws may very well be lower on your list of priorities. I don't know the protocols of creating and passing laws in VA with the Dems holding the cards, hopefully not like CA.

When I finally left CA, gun laws were not in my top 5 reasons of leaving.

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Originally posted by oddball:
I'm hoping I'm wrong, but gun laws may very well be lower on your list of priorities. I don't know the protocols of creating and passing laws in VA with the Dems holding the cards, hopefully not like CA.

When I finally left CA, gun laws were not in my top 5 reasons of leaving.

The dems ran on passing gun control day 1.

Remember

HB4201 SPECIFICALLY AND INTENTIONALLY DOES NOT HAVE A GRANDFATHER CLAUSE

So stuff you buy now will still be required to be destroyed, rendered inoperable, moved out of state, or turned in when the new law goes into effect come next July 1. Each item will be a class 6 felony

My point that was questioned above remains true. May want to go easy advertising the 12 class 6 felonies you just purchased/are purchasing

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Originally posted by Leemur:
10 more Pmags and 1000 more rounds of ammo headed my way. Scope and mount for the AR10 are waiting for me to pick them up on Friday. Just might throw another stripped lower on the order as well.

Maryland laws are much, much less restrictive than what Virginia will likely be next July. Even California and New York are less restrictive.

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Originally posted by fpuhan:
Welcome to Maryland.

After the Dems completely fuck things up in VA as they have in MD, they'll scratch their heads and try to blame someone else. As always.

The same shit that happened in VA happened to the Philly suburbs last night too.

We have what are called the "collar" counties of Bucks, Montgomery and Chester that border on Philadelphia and they used to be red and acted as a buffer against solid-blue Philadelphia and all the liberal shit they push but have been slowly turning blue in the past 15 years.

Now they are ALL solidly BLUE today.

Idiot people from Philadelphia flee the high taxes and liberal BS there only to bring it to the suburban counties where they settle.

I'm so friggen' pissed right now. We are FUCKED, F-U-C-K-E-D.

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Originally posted by Kevbo:
Remember

HB4201 SPECIFICALLY AND INTENTIONALLY DOES NOT HAVE A GRANDFATHER CLAUSE

So stuff you buy now will still be required to be destroyed, rendered inoperable, moved out of state, or turned in when the new law goes into effect come next July 1. Each item will be a class 6 felony

My point that was questioned above remains true. May want to go easy advertising the 12 class 6 felonies you just purchased/are purchasing

quote:

Originally posted by Leemur:
10 more Pmags and 1000 more rounds of ammo headed my way. Scope and mount for the AR10 are waiting for me to pick them up on Friday. Just might throw another stripped lower on the order as well.

I though he said the shipment was lost and never delivered...

Feel sad for you guys.

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Originally posted by PASig:
The same shit that happened in VA happened to the Philly suburbs last night too.

We have what are called the "collar" counties of Bucks, Montgomery and Chester that border on Philadelphia and they used to be red and acted as a buffer against solid-blue Philadelphia and all the liberal shit they push but have been slowly turning blue in the past 15 years.

Now they are ALL solidly BLUE today.

Idiot people from Philadelphia flee the high taxes and liberal BS there only to bring it to the suburban counties where they settle.

I'm so friggen' pissed right now. We are FUCKED, F-U-C-K-E-D.

The same thing has happened here in St. Louis County.
So what do we do about it?
What will Virginians do about it?
So far, all I've heard/read is "flee" to WV, UT, TN or wherever. What do we do when we run out of places to flee to?

The problem is the time for Virginians to fight was two days ago

With NoVA the way it is, I do not think a republican will win another statewide election (like the governor) in my lifetime

So all the laws the Democrats are going to pass are here to stay unless

1) the judiciary steps in

Or

2) you can get a majority in the house large enough to override a veto (never going to happen)

So, really, the BEST thing you can do is move to a red state and make it redder so that when the creep happens like it did here in Virginia it’s harder

There is no taking back the state. I’ve already reached out to my delegate today to schedule a meeting with her to talk about HB 4021. I have zero confidence it will have any effect

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Originally posted by PASig:
The same shit that happened in VA happened to the Philly suburbs last night too.

We have what are called the "collar" counties of Bucks, Montgomery and Chester that border on Philadelphia and they used to be red and acted as a buffer against solid-blue Philadelphia and all the liberal shit they push but have been slowly turning blue in the past 15 years.

Now they are ALL solidly BLUE today.

Idiot people from Philadelphia flee the high taxes and liberal BS there only to bring it to the suburban counties where they settle.

I'm so friggen' pissed right now. We are FUCKED, F-U-C-K-E-D.

Yeah, what happened to the Philadelphia suburbs yesterday was just awful. And was it Delaware County that just got another douchebag as bad as "Let 'em Go" Larry Krasner in there? Jesus.

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Originally posted by chellim1:

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Originally posted by PASig:
The same shit that happened in VA happened to the Philly suburbs last night too.

We have what are called the "collar" counties of Bucks, Montgomery and Chester that border on Philadelphia and they used to be red and acted as a buffer against solid-blue Philadelphia and all the liberal shit they push but have been slowly turning blue in the past 15 years.

Now they are ALL solidly BLUE today.

Idiot people from Philadelphia flee the high taxes and liberal BS there only to bring it to the suburban counties where they settle.

I'm so friggen' pissed right now. We are FUCKED, F-U-C-K-E-D.

The same thing has happened here in St. Louis County.
So what do we do about it?
What will Virginians do about it?
So far, all I've heard/read is "flee" to WV, UT, TN or wherever. What do we do when we run out of places to flee to?

I'm in Bucks county right on the edge of Philly county and New Jersery. It's always been a strong 3:1 Democrats down here. With more people leaving the city and coming into the suburbs it will not get better because people don't relate any of the reasons they left the city to the politicians they've been voting for.

What do we do about it? I dunno, how do you get people to stop voting for the letters D or R and actually look at the candidates and do research into the issues they care about?

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Originally posted by Kevbo:
Dude, don’t twist my words.

It’s absolutely clear I am talking about not advertising any items you have kept that will suddenly be illegal

So take that bullshit somewhere else. I am well on record in many threads on sigforum warning this was coming down the pike.

Give me a fucking break

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Originally posted by mrmoneybags:

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Originally posted by Kevbo:
make sure you are as silent as a the grave about it once it’s the law

Indeed, hiding from it will make it go away.

What about "this is why the 2nd Amendment exists"?

I'm not twisting your words. You're saying that we need to all stay quiet (i.e. hide) all this gun paraphernalia that is unconstitutionally being declared illegal. How does that help? When we say "Come and Take it" do we mean it or is it just a cool thing to post?

Fleeing isn't going to work. If you've been warning about it, you know what's happening. Texas is turning blue. When that happens, this type of shit starts at the Federal level, and there's no stopping it, because the demographic change is inevitable. The largest "conservative" youth organization in the country is led by a man that advocates for "record" amounts of immigration "as long as it's legal".

This isn't directed at you specifically, but if you think the way forward on this is to hide your 30rd PMAGS and run away & wait for the day that a Democrat president announces a gun-confiscation krisyallnacht, then don't call yourself a 2A supporter.

Great

Next July 2nd I will look for you standing in northern Virginia with your now illegal ar-15 telling people you aren’t hiding it because the law is unconstitutional. I commend you on your willingness to take one for the team and be the test subject for the law. After 5 years in prison, and $300k you spend in legal fees, we will all still be really proud of you as your case hasn’t made it anywhere yet just like the people who have been waiting now almost 7 years for the safe act to be repealed in new york

Meanwhile, those of us with families and jobs will be silently refusing to comply

I am as disappointed as everyone in the Virginia election.

But I'm not moving anywhere.

My political focus for the next year is:

#1 help get Donald Trump reelected

#2 if possible, vote out Sen Mark Warner

Those 2 can go together. If Elizabeth Warren is the DEM nominee, we might get VA to swing to Trump in 2020.

And if that happens, we might get a guy like this elected to replace Warner:

Daniel Gade

https://www.gadeforvirginia.com/

The REP candidates signed up for the REP senate primary are generally not strong. I think Daniel Gade stands the best shot, but first he has to win the REP primary.

Take a look at him.

Virginia has the right to bear in the state constitution as well.

Article I. Bill of Rights
Section 13. Militia; standing armies; military subordinate to civil power

That a well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the proper, natural, and safe defense of a free state, therefore, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed; that standing armies, in time of peace, should be avoided as dangerous to liberty; and that in all cases the military should be under strict subordination to, and governed by, the civil power.

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Originally posted by Kevbo:
Great

Next July 2nd I will look for you standing in northern Virginia with your now illegal ar-15 telling people you aren’t hiding it because the law is unconstitutional. I commend you on your willingness to take one for the team and be the test subject for the law. After 5 years in prison, and $300k you spend in legal fees, we will all still be really proud of you as your case hasn’t made it anywhere yet just like the people who have been waiting now almost 7 years for the safe act to be repealed in new york

Meanwhile, those of us with families and jobs will be silently refusing to comply

You coming with me?

There is no candidate the Democrats can run that Virginia wont vote for

If Kamala Harris is the candidate, she will win Virginia

If Joe Biden is the candidate, he will win Virginia

If Elizabeth Warren is the candidate, she will win Virginia

If Corey Booker is the candidate...can you see where this is going? Booker even campaigned for my representative not 10 miles from my house

I wish you luck in your endeavors. I will even be joining you In them. It will take a miracle or catastrophe I cannot currently fathom for Virginia to go for trump next year. Sorry, I can fathom one: NoVA somehow becomes part of Maryland

Coming with you, where? Prison? No. That’s all you. You’re the one espousing openly admitting owning illegal items, not me.

Edit: the state constitution will not stop Democrats from passing something akin to HB 4021 and Northam signing it into law. The law will then need to Be challenged in state court, and evaluated in that manner. Mrmoneybags has graciously volunteered to be the test subject for that challenge. If I had bags of money I might be more inclined to join him.

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Originally posted by mrmoneybags:

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Originally posted by Kevbo:
Great

Next July 2nd I will look for you standing in northern Virginia with your now illegal ar-15 telling people you aren’t hiding it because the law is unconstitutional. I commend you on your willingness to take one for the team and be the test subject for the law. After 5 years in prison, and $300k you spend in legal fees, we will all still be really proud of you as your case hasn’t made it anywhere yet just like the people who have been waiting now almost 7 years for the safe act to be repealed in new york

Meanwhile, those of us with families and jobs will be silently refusing to comply

You coming with me?

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Originally posted by Kevbo:
Coming with you, where? Prison? No. That’s all you. You’re the one espousing openly admitting owning illegal items, not me.

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Originally posted by mrmoneybags:

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Originally posted by Kevbo:
Great

Next July 2nd I will look for you standing in northern Virginia with your now illegal ar-15 telling people you aren’t hiding it because the law is unconstitutional. I commend you on your willingness to take one for the team and be the test subject for the law. After 5 years in prison, and $300k you spend in legal fees, we will all still be really proud of you as your case hasn’t made it anywhere yet just like the people who have been waiting now almost 7 years for the safe act to be repealed in new york

Meanwhile, those of us with families and jobs will be silently refusing to comply

You coming with me?

Loving this comment juxtaposed with your signature line LMAO