Gowdy says everything in the memo was given to the committee by the FBI, everything. So what’s the worry?

I don't trust Gowdy any more than I trust Paul Ryan or Lindsay Graham. Gowdy just puts on a much better show.

It seems like every day the corruption scandal-- the Deep State attempt to control America-- gets deeper and wider. This article by Andrew McCarthy draws Obama directly into it all-- in fact, at the center.

http://www.nationalreview.com/...n-not-indict-hillary

What I wonder is how will this all play out in the worst case (that is, best case for us) scenario? I don't think it's likely, but what if Obama were found guilty of serious crimes, tried, and sent to prison? How would the black population, along with all progressives, react? What kind of civil unrest would ensue?

Suppose-- again, a long shot, but so much that has already happened would have seemed impossible a year ago-- suppose that the Clintons, Lynch, Holder, Comey-- that whole bunch-- also went to prison. Could the country deal with the aftermath of ... what? Protests? Violence? How widespread, for how long?

I would be deeply happy and satisfied every single corrupt miscreant were hauled off, and willing to pay the price of whatever disorder and even violence might follow. My question is really just about the ultimate scope of all this, and the final repercussions.

I think this is big. There has been nothing comparable in American history. Watergate... Tea Pot Dome... any other scandal pales in comparison.

I would put together a poll if I thought it was okay with Para. Just a basic series of questions about how you all think this will play out ultimately, ranging from "a flash in the pan" to the fundamental transformation of America for the better-- America with the swamp drained.

These are historic days.

Just watch. This click-bait "loses it" stuff is horse shit, but, just watch.

At least one seemingly well informed writer predicts the Nunes memo is going to reveal how the FISA information was wrapped into the Presidential Daily Briefing, which in turn was circulated to a wide group (including Bill Priestap at FBI). Names of US citizens would be masked - then people like Susan Rice would require unmasking, “due to her need to understand the intelligence” - thereby leaking Trump campaign information to the wide group of Obama staffers (and over to the Hillary campaign).

Long write up here: https://theconservativetreehou...mptions/#more-144981

the tax reform bill only benefitting the rich....has somehow provided bonuses to 3 million employees? even before the tax benefits take affect? corporations taking profit hits Q4 of last year to give the bonuses early? how smug of the rich, eh? the crow eating continues.

even usatoday has to run with it (lowballing the number)
"According to ATR's latest tally, at least 2 million American workers will "receive special bonuses" in the wake of tax reform."
link to quote....also an adstorm..

i like this banner at the top of this page much better.
https://www.atr.org/list

very interesting article above by feersum re Conservative Treehouse

Conservative Treehouse is putting a lot of thought into this and trying to connect dots

With something this complicated and so much ambiguous or unknown, they will probably make some mistakes, but overall they seem to be doing a really good job

I like their message to Adam Schiff embedded in their article



yes, it really is there

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Originally posted by nhtagmember:
and there isn't a lot of nation security info that needs to be protected at this point - the people have been harmed - perhaps irreparably and in my books, until the American citizens have justice, national security takes a very far back seat

anyone can hide and claim anything these days under the haze of national security

I think its high time that they actually prove a national security implication before they make this assertion

otherwise, they're lying

period

I agree. To heck with the national security crap in any memos or documents. At this point it appears likely that parts of our own government are the true enemy. Release it all totally unredacted.

Givin' 'em Hell.

I believe that Jeffery Toobin let some of his liberal projection slip. In that video he says:

4:10

"I think it is well established that the President of the United States can not engage in corrupt acts. Acts designed to protect his political interests, and and use the FBI to advance those political interests"

It appears he's applying what Obama actually did to what he feels Trump is doing.

I find that the best place to keep up with all that is going on-- and making sense of it-- is, as sdy says, The Conservative Treehouse. Sundance never disappoints. Because he is cutting edge, he often directly addresses the people he is talking about-- knowing that they are reading him to keep up with the cutting edge. Like his hilarious message to Adam Schiff.

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This is putting us in strange territory. How can Warner defend the FBI and the DoJ after the text messages? after the Bruce Ohr and Nellie Ohr revelations ?

How can this idiot defend the FBI? Simple. He is part of the swamp and, IMO, terrified over what will most likely happen when the real details come out.

Untitled by Wayne Wilson, on Flickr

An aspect of the 4 page memo and the underlying detailed documents, is that Nunes did not read the detailed documents.

Trey Gowdy was assigned as the REP representative from the House Intel comm to read the detailed docs.

This is written in the Boyd ltr to Nunes (bottom page 1)

quote:

Originally posted by justjoe:
It seems like every day the corruption scandal-- the Deep State attempt to control America-- gets deeper and wider. This article by Andrew McCarthy draws Obama directly into it all-- in fact, at the center.

http://www.nationalreview.com/...n-not-indict-hillary

What I wonder is how will this all play out in the worst case (that is, best case for us) scenario? I don't think it's likely, but what if Obama were found guilty of serious crimes, tried, and sent to prison? How would the black population, along with all progressives, react? What kind of civil unrest would ensue?

Suppose-- again, a long shot, but so much that has already happened would have seemed impossible a year ago-- suppose that the Clintons, Lynch, Holder, Comey-- that whole bunch-- also went to prison. Could the country deal with the aftermath of ... what? Protests? Violence? How widespread, for how long?

I would be deeply happy and satisfied every single corrupt miscreant were hauled off, and willing to pay the price of whatever disorder and even violence might follow. My question is really just about the ultimate scope of all this, and the final repercussions.

I think this is big. There has been nothing comparable in American history. Watergate... Tea Pot Dome... any other scandal pales in comparison.

I would put together a poll if I thought it was okay with Para. Just a basic series of questions about how you all think this will play out ultimately, ranging from "a flash in the pan" to the fundamental transformation of America for the better-- America with the swamp drained.

These are historic days.

I wouldn't give a shit how the largely democratic portion of the black population would react to the magic negro being investigated, and bought up on charges. Me and a lot of other folks I know would go down to CNN headquarters on 1st st NE with signs proclaiming how happy we are that the magic negro is finally being charged, and do a bit of celebration like this.

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Originally posted by JALLEN:
Fox is reporting that the missing texts have been recovered.

The Department of Justice has recovered missing text messages between anti-Trump FBI officials Peter Strzok and Lisa Page, the DOJ’s inspector general said Thursday.

In a letter sent to congressional committees, Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz said his office “succeeded in using forensic tools to recover text messages from FBI devices, including text messages between Mr. Strzok and Ms. Page that were sent or received between December 14, 2016 and May 17, 2017.”

“Our effort to recover any additional text messages is ongoing,” Horowitz said. “We will provide copies of the text messages that we recover from these devices to the Department so that the Department’s leadership can take any management action it deems appropriate.”


Fox News’ Sean Hannity had reported Wednesday that the Department of Justice had started to recover some of the texts.

The missing messages have been at the center of a storm of controversy on Capitol Hill, after the DOJ notified congressional committees that there is a gap in records between Dec. 14, 2016, and May 17, 2017. Strzok and Page are under scrutiny after it was revealed that the former members of Robert Mueller's team exchanged a series of anti-Trump texts during the presidential campaign.

The gap in records covered a crucial period, raising suspicion among GOP lawmakers about how those messages disappeared.

More than 50,000 texts were exchanged between Strzok and Page, Attorney General Jeff Sessions revealed Monday. Sessions had pledged to figure out how some of their texts went missing.

“We will leave no stone unturned to confirm with certainty why these text messages are not now available to be produced and will use every technology available to determine whether the missing messages are recoverable from another source,” Sessions said in a statement provided to Fox News. “If we are successful, we will update the congressional committees immediately.”

Federal law enforcement officials told Fox News on Wednesday that thousands of FBI cellphones were affected by the technical glitch that apparently prevented those Strzok and Page messages from being stored or uploaded into the bureau’s archive system.

Horowitz sent his letter confirming the discovery of texts to Senate Homeland Security Committee Chairman Ron Johnson, R-Wis., and Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, who had inquired about the messages.

The five-month stretch of missing messages covers a period of time that includes President Donald Trump's inauguration, the firings of National Security Adviser Michael Flynn and FBI Director James Comey and the standing-up of former FBI Director Mueller as special counsel to investigate alleged Trump campaign collusion with Russian officials during the 2016 election.

http://www.foxnews.com/politic...ustice-official.html

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“Our effort to recover any additional text messages is ongoing,” Horowitz said. “We will provide copies of the text messages that we recover from these devices to the Department so that the Department’s leadership can take any management action it deems appropriate.”

That sure sounds like a very politically correct way of shoving that BS right back into the faces of those serving it.

I'd say I'm shocked, but I'm not.

If the FBI hadn't recovered these texts, the FBI would loose all credibility as the premier forensic digital evidence re-creator in law enforcement.

That is an impact the FBI could not withstand so no matter the outcome, even if it incriminates Obama, Biden, Clinton, Holder, Lynch, Comey, Rosenstein, McCabe, Page, Strzok, and the rest of the secret society members in the making and distribution of child snuff porn, the FBI had to recover the majority of those text messages.

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Originally posted by olfuzzy:

quote:

Originally posted by JALLEN:
Fox is reporting that the missing texts have been recovered.

The Department of Justice has recovered missing text messages between anti-Trump FBI officials Peter Strzok and Lisa Page, the DOJ’s inspector general said Thursday.

In a letter sent to congressional committees, Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz said his office “succeeded in using forensic tools to recover text messages from FBI devices, including text messages between Mr. Strzok and Ms. Page that were sent or received between December 14, 2016 and May 17, 2017.”

“Our effort to recover any additional text messages is ongoing,” Horowitz said. “We will provide copies of the text messages that we recover from these devices to the Department so that the Department’s leadership can take any management action it deems appropriate.”

< ROSAL >

quote:

If the FBI hadn't recovered these texts, the FBI would loose all credibility as the premier forensic digital evidence re-creator in law enforcement.

They didn't. The FBI lost them. For good. A glitch!

The Inspector General recovered them. He then told them that in the event they forgot what was in them, he would be gracious enough to provide them a copy.