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Originally posted by stoic-one:
'Please have mercy on my son,' Hayes sobbed as she looked at the jury.

She, and for that matter, every parent in the nation should be told clearly and bluntly that her son didn’t get to the point that it was acceptable to trespass, provoke confrontations, and then respond with violence when he didn’t like what he was being told by watching Bugs Bunny cartoons. Incidents like that happen because young people are taught, directly or by example, that they have some sort of right to do those things because of what their cultures condone—if not encourage.

It may seem simplistic in some ways, but part of the reasons for modern problems like that is that people are no longer told such things clearly and bluntly, and that by allowing their children to learn that such behavior is acceptable for whatever reason, they are responsible for what results. I couldn’t be a criminal court judge because if I had been sitting on that bench, that’s exactly what that woman would have heard from me.

Is it trespassing to be an invited athlete at a meet and sit under a canopy set up by a different team on the property owned by the public school hosting the meet?

It’s certainly rude. The parents of our high school’s swim team setup a canopy over a section of bleachers at a county owned pool just like other parents of other teams did. My wife left her purse where she was sitting when she left to use the restroom then some random woman moved my wife’s purse and sat under our canopy. You wouldn’t believe the tirade I was subjected to when I called her out on it. Fortunately, no one was stabbed to death.

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Originally posted by trapper189:
^^^That’s her, Ms. Stampy Feet.

With the 2" fake nails. But, but , she is a journalist, look at her equipment.

I think many are angry and afraid because they see the tide turning against those who commit serious crimes and have been getting away with it by playing the race card.

Fake outrage to go with the fake nails for the cameras, fake empathy, just wanting views and clicks....

When will the looting begin?

I 100% will have an SBR with me in the car for the next week.

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Originally posted by HRK:
Fake outrage to go with the fake nails for the cameras, fake empathy, just wanting views and clicks....

Exactly. The live view I was watching was drone footage of the overall group waiting for the verdict. People were meandering and she just started jumping up and down, stamped her feet, buckled over, and fell to the ground wailing. She was the only one to react at all.

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Originally posted by trapper189:
Is it trespassing to be an invited athlete at a meet and sit under a canopy set up by a different team on the property owned by the public school hosting the meet?

Does it become trespassing when you are repeatedly asked to leave the property/premises?

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Does it become trespassing when you are repeatedly asked to leave the property/premises?

If the person(s) making the request have legal control over the property.

In this case I don't think trespassing has anything to do with things.

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Originally posted by trapper189:
Is it trespassing to be an invited athlete at a meet and sit under a canopy set up by a different team on the property owned by the public school hosting the meet?

Is it "trespassing" if one departs his seat at a college football game and makes his way to sit down at a team bench? Or if an opposing player did this? Even high school games?

They would be escorted outta there by security, and if no security, those trespassing would be physically removed if they refuse verbal commands to leave.

I wonder if there's a way for the Metcalf family to file a civil suit against the Anthony family, to attach/garnish the current / future crowdfunding proceeds for this turd?
They could set up a scholarship fund in memory of their son.

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Originally posted by oddball:

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Originally posted by trapper189:
Is it trespassing to be an invited athlete at a meet and sit under a canopy set up by a different team on the property owned by the public school hosting the meet?

Is it "trespassing" if one departs his seat at a college football game and makes his way to sit down at a team bench? Or if an opposing player did this? Even high school games?

They would be escorted outta there by security, and if no security, those trespassing would be physically removed if they refuse verbal commands to leave.

That’s not the same at all.

I just checked and I misunderstood what happened. The meet was held at a district owned facility, not one specific to a particular school. Both schools were part of that district. I don’t believe that either student had any authority to ask the other to leave that gives rise to trespass.

It’s no different than spreading your towel out on a public beach, someone moves your towel, and sits where your towel was. That makes them a dick not a trespasser.

Make no mistake, the murderer was a dick that started the ball rolling.

Actually, the two teams had their own area and pavilions. A couple of the coaches (from both teams) explained on day one of the trial. This was similar to a football or basketball player going into the opposing team's locker room at half time....very fucking wrong.

From Google AI recapping this (there is a long YouTube LAW video covering the trial and testimony):

During the trial for Karmelo Anthony, track coaches and athletes testified that team tents serve as a designated "home base" or locker room for each school. Coaches and students explained that it is a well-understood, unwritten rule of track culture that athletes are supposed to stay in their own designated team areas.

He was there to provoke something, and he brought the knife to make sure he won the fight.

Sentencing incoming.

I am wondering, are his parents wishing they spent less of that "defense" money on the house, cars, TVs, etc., or less on the murder’s defense lawyer and more on the house and an additional Escalade?

Will Karmelo be able to sit for his statue, the one that will be placed next to the statue of St. George Floyd?


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Thirty-five years. He has to serve at least half of that sentence, meaning he's be in prison for a minimum of seventeen and a half years, and that's IF he doesn't show his ass again.

He'll be at least 36 or 37 years old before he gets out. Little bastard ruined his life.

https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/2064506240097464705

I agree that “trespassing” was not a valid criminal charge (again, based on what I know). But without checking now, I also seem to recall that it was mentioned by people (lawyers) who might have known. Perhaps like other issues it was just assumed the victim’s tent/cover was not on public property or had some other exclusive rights to it.

Based on the one video I do recall, there were plenty of other issues that nullified any legitimate claim to self-defense.

Considering all of what was evidently solid evidence against a self-defense finding, I wounder why the Defense didn’t try to get a verdict of a lesser form of homicide than murder.

Is that something that could be raised on appeal? “My client was wrong, but he was provoked into an overraction that wasn’t premeditated by [the victim’s] speech and actions.”
I know nothing about Texas law, but possibly something equivalent to voluntary manslaughter—?

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Originally posted by jsbcody:
Actually, the two teams had their own area and pavilions. A couple of the coaches (from both teams) explained on day one of the trial. This was similar to a football or basketball player going into the opposing team's locker room at half time....very fucking wrong.

Yes, it was testified by a number of witnesses that the killer was in an area he did not belong. Was it "trespassing" by the absolute letter of the law? Most likely no. But neither is my scenario of someone encroaching onto a team bench at an athletic event.

I'm glad they got him. I was not sure he would go down on the full charge.

I have to wonder if his lawyers did idiot things at the end of the trial because they knew he was going down, and wanted an "ineffective assistance of counsel" option on appeal.

I would not think so, as that risks their licenses, but they may have done it to fight another day.

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Originally posted by parabellum:

Thirty-five years. He has to serve at least half of that sentence, meaning he's be in prison for a minimum of seventeen and a half years, and that's IF he doesn't show his ass again.

Hopefully, he will tangle with the wrong guy in the joint, and will be dealt with appropriately.