Volunteer, county GOP, VCDL, NRA, don’t care. Get involved make a difference and stand for your values and what you believe.

Sdy.

ETA - 95flhr

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Originally posted by Micropterus:
I have to stop, and I will stop, worrying about it. Virginia got what it deserves. Bloomberg did not buy this election. It was given as a gift by those too self-absorbed or too lazy to vote.

I respectfully disagree. Virginia got what northern Virginia and the rats around it are forcing upon us. Would it have been different if more people minded like SF members had voted? Yes. But Virginia as a whole doesn't deserve tyranny, and that's what's coming.

I want to call BS on the "Bloomberg did not buy this election" statement, but I can't back it with financial reports so I'll stop short of that. But we all know that Bloomberg and his high-dollar comrades have/had influence in the NoVa/DC area and the lemmings they've taken under their control. Are the lazy non-voters at fault? Certainly. But those lost votes are not the only ingredient in this poo-poo soup, and let's not forget that.

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That said, I'll rant:

This is a prime example of a rich/elite/powerful few taking advantage of the complacent, thinking they'll just make rules and the peasants will comply. Give up now? Hell no!! Now is the time to yank hard on the reins of this flea-bitten horse, get out the tar and feathers if necessary, and whip this state back into shape! Assign partial blame for this on the lazy? Heck, yes. Stand by and let it happen? Again I say: HELL NO!

Be part of the force that gets this crazy bus back on the pavement!

- - "Never give up. Never, ever give up!"
- - "We are Sparta!"
- - "Let's roll!"
- - "Get your big boy pants on and get after it"
- - "Pitter patter, let's get at 'er."
- - "Get involved, be part of the solution rather than bitch about the outcome."
- - "You don't have to do everything, but do something."


Need more? I'll find 'em for you, and I'll start with the video of Mark Robinson (Greensboro, NC) very clearly stating we're not the problem, and we are the majority. Click this and I'll save you the search.

Sh*t fire, ladies and gents, I'm non-military, non-LEO, non-"oath of office" of any sort. But I'll tell you right here and now, I'm darn sure not just sitting on my hands and letting this state turn wuss without putting up a fight.

Each one of you here knows how to type, or at least how to find the keys in close to the right order. Put that skill to work. Write and email your legislators -- on BOTH sides of the aisle -- and let them know We The People are not having it. Visit your legislators in person. Go to Lobby Day. Make darn sure the jerks in Richmond and NoVa hear our voices!

Each one of you has or has access to a telephone of some sort. USE IT! Place calls to your legislators' offices and let them know we're not having it. This is not what We The People wanted, it's what's come down upon us by those who think they're better than us. Better than us? That's crap, you know it. And it's time for us all to let them know we know it.

I forget who said it, but there's a quote out there something akin to "once in a while every man must be ready to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and start slitting throats." Now is that time gents and ladies. NOW is that time. (Figuratively, of course, but you knew that already.)



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Edited to add sdy's statement.

This message has been edited. Last edited by: vthoky,

Perhaps para's post on page three was missed...I'm guessing so, since obviously my previous posts were missed as well as many others in this thread. So let me try to elaborate for the cheap seats...


If you are just coming in here to whine and point fingers nobody wants to hear it. We did our part in our county. How about yours? What have you done since? Will I see you on the twentieth or have you got some excuse as to why not?


If you have some encouraging words for those in this fight by all means sally forth. If not well then pretty please with sugar on top...shut the fuck up and get out of the way.

Guys.

This ties in neatly with my thread about being a good neighbor.

Don't just come in here to take a piss. You aren't helping.

VCDL just stated that after Prince William County bos meeting was flooded with people today and after the hearing went for six hours, the bos postponed their vote. Good on you pro 2A prince william folks!

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VA Beach City Councilwoman Sabrina Wooten withdrew her resolution that called for all city buildings to be gun free zones. Looks like she perhaps learned a lesson yesterday.

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Originally posted by thunderson:
There are currently a couple hundred people in the OVERFLOW room for the Prince Williams County board meeting. It's snowing outside and it's 2:30 pm on a business day.


The bos already voted but that was with the old board members. The new board members stated that they would vote to undo what the previous board passed. They set that vote for 7pm today....and then changed it to 2pm in the hopes that the pro 2A crowd wouldn't show.

Fuck them. The 2A crowd showed anyways. Do your stupid shit in full view cowards.

Got a range report from a friend and FOUR KIDS WHO ATTENDED. She got up and spoke to the crowd and had her 4 kids standing beside her. Explained that she was sole support for those kids, and was responsible for their safety. And without her gun to defend herself and those 4 kids she would be helpless. She raised cheers and a standing ovation! She said the place was jammed and standing room only. I seem to recall that she said there were more than 200 people there.

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Originally posted by vthoky:

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Originally posted by pessimist:

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Originally posted by vthoky:

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Originally posted by pessimist:
vthoky, I think they're calculating at a much higher level than you're giving them credit for.

I'm not sure I'm following you. Clarify, please?

You mentioned the impact their decision would have on the local economy. I don't think that's a consideration for them. Especially since we know that democrats couldn't care less about the health of the national economy. In fact, I think it's been demonstrated pretty clearly that they'll sabotage the economy in an effort to push forth their overall agenda.

These traitors in Virginia are just puppets doing the bidding of people much higher in the food chain like Bloomberg.

I see now. Thank you.

Can't vouch for authenticity, but have heard several times now that that scumbag soros is also involved.

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Originally posted by Skins2881:

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Originally posted by Micropterus:
...It was given as a gift by those too self-absorbed or too lazy to vote....

Show of hands everybody. I want everyone reading this thread in Virginia who did NOT vote to speak up. I'm guessing I'm not going to see many chime in.

I'd put the blame where it belongs, GOPVA, and unopposed races.

Well, I voted. I was in, and out, of the place in 5 minutes. No waiting. AIR, they had about 20 voting machines up and running. only about 3 or 4 were being used, and that was during lunch hour.

I have heard, can't verify it, that down in SW Virginia the polls were deserted, very few people showed up to vote.

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Originally posted by thunderson:
VCDL just stated that after Prince William County bos meeting was flooded with people today and after the hearing went for six hours, the bos postponed their vote. Good on you pro 2A prince william folks!

Edited to Add:

VA Beach City Councilwoman Sabrina Wooten withdrew her resolution that called for all city buildings to be gun free zones. Looks like she perhaps learned a lesson yesterday.

I doubt it. She just figured she didn't want to face the outrage at that point. She/they will try to sneak it thru when there is less attention being paid.

FYI, for those who can attend. Anyone who supports the Virginia and U.S. Constitutions is welcome.

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I want to call BS on the "Bloomberg did not buy this election" statement, but I can't back it with financial reports so I'll stop short of that.

The Virginia Public Access Project

This will give you plenty of info.

For instance this page will show you all of everytown's donations to virginia weasels.

https://bearingarms.com/cam-e/...w-gun-and-ammo-bans/

Virginia Democrats have introduced a revised ban on so-called “assault weapons” that requires existing gun owners to register their firearms with the state, and also bans outright the possession of magazines that can hold more than ten rounds as well as a ban on suppressors and “trigger activators”.

According to the legislative summary by Delegate Mark Levine, HB 961:

The bill makes it a Class 6 felony to import, sell, transfer, manufacture, purchase, possess , or transport large-capacity firearm magazines, silencers, and trigger activators, all defined in the bill.

Any person who legally owns an assault firearm, large-capacity firearm magazine, silencer, or trigger activator on July 1, 2020, may retain possession until January 1, 2021.

During that time, such person shall (i) render the assault firearm, large-capacity firearm magazine, silencer, or trigger activator inoperable; (ii) remove the assault firearm, large-capacity firearm magazine, silencer, or trigger activator from the Commonwealth; (iii) transfer the assault firearm, large-capacity firearm magazine, silencer, or trigger activator to a person outside the Commonwealth who is not prohibited from possessing it; or (iv) surrender the assault firearm, large-capacity firearm magazine, silencer, or trigger activator to a state or local law-enforcement agency.

Under the terms of this bill, every ammunition magazine in the state of Virginia that can accept more than ten rounds would have to be permanently modified to only hold ten rounds, destroyed, turned over, or removed from the state

and

As Governor Ralph Northam promised, the revised gun ban contains a grandfather clause that “allows” Virginians to maintain possession of the firearms they legally own, but at a cost.

A. Any person who legally owns an assault firearm on July 1, 2020, may apply for a permit to possess such assault firearm. The application shall be on a form prescribed by the Department of State Police and shall include a certification statement to be signed by the applicant under penalty of perjury certifying that the applicant is the lawful owner of the assault firearm and that the information presented on the application is true and correct. Upon receipt of a complete application for a permit, the Superintendent of State Police or his designee shall issue a permit to the applicant. The Department of State Police may charge a fee not to exceed $50 to cover the cost of the issuance of the permit.

B. The permit shall contain the name, address, date of birth, gender, height, weight, and color of hair of the applicant and a description of the assault firearm, including the make, model, caliber, and serial number of the assault firearm and any other information as required by the Department of State Police. Except as provided in subsection E, the permit shall not be transferable to another person. The permit shall remain valid as long as the applicant issued the permit remains the owner of the assault firearm unless during the time of ownership the applicant is found not to be in compliance with the conditions set forth in subsection D or the applicant no longer satisfies the requirements for the issuance of a permit. A person issued a permit shall notify the Department of State Police of any change in the person’s address on a form provided by the Department of State Police within 30 days from the date of the change in address. Upon receipt of such notification, the Department of State Police shall issue a replacement permit to the person.

and

Delegate Levine has also introduced HB 899, which would ban the possession and use of “restricted firearm ammunition” in the state, and makes it a felony to own any ammunition that meets the following criteria:

(i) Teflon coated or coated with a similar product;

(ii) commonly known as “KTW” bullets or “French Arcanes”; or

(iii) cartridges containing bullets coated with a plastic substance with other than lead or lead alloy cores, jacketed bullets with other than lead or lead alloy cores, or cartridges of which the bullet itself is wholly composed of a metal or metal alloy other than lead, but the definition does not include shotgun shells or solid plastic bullets.

A whole bunch of new bills have been posted over the last couple of days. A couple of highlights:

- Limit of one handgun purchase every 30 days

- Prohibition on Teflon coated, or similar, projectiles and any projectiles that do not have a lead core

- Additional sales tax on firearms and ammunition

- Expanded definition of assault firearm and registration of assault firearm

- Establishment of the Virginia Voluntary Do Not Sell Firearms List
(My take on this one is that they don't want to create martyrs and they can't throw everyone in jail. It's like a standardized plea agreement. They'll give you a choice when they catch you: be prosecuted and face years in jail along with financial ruin defending yourself OR voluntarily enter yourself on the list and you'll be spared. Effectively, you can never own a firearm again)

- Prohibits firearms at meetings of state/local governing bodies

- Virginia State Police; Executive Protection Unit; possession of firearms. Provides that notwithstanding any other provision of law, a state police officer serving on the Executive Protection Unit may possess a firearm only to the extent permitted by law for a civilian.


Disclaimer: this is just a rough summary. I've tried to be accurate but there's a lot of verbiage in these bills. Also, this is not a complete listing; there are more bills.

They're not coming up with all this stuff on the fly. A lot of time and effort went into it and it's clear that it's coming from Bloomberg et al. This is a blueprint that they're rolling out in Virginia but it should be clear to everyone what the intent is.

ETA: sdy was quicker on the trigger

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requires existing gun owners to register their firearms with the state,

Oh, Christ, we knew Registration would be part of the scheme.

This is like a living nightmare.

I'm literally losing sleep over all of this.

How can this actually happen in the U.S. - I served 30 yrs active-duty, 100% disabled vet from combat and now I hate this place with all my soul.

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Originally posted by Sunset_Va:

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requires existing gun owners to register their firearms with the state,

Oh, Christ, we knew Registration would be part of the scheme.

Don't do it. You don't want them to know who has what.

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Originally posted by chellim1:

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Originally posted by Sunset_Va:

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requires existing gun owners to register their firearms with the state,

Oh, Christ, we knew Registration would be part of the scheme.

Don't do it. You don't want them to know who has what.

Why of Course.

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Originally posted by SteadyHand:
This is like a living nightmare.

I'm literally losing sleep over all of this.

How can this actually happen in the U.S. - I served 30 yrs active-duty, 100% disabled vet from combat and now I hate this place with all my soul.

Because 1/2 of Virginians able to do so DID NOT VOTE. I posted statistics earlier in this thread.

And I stand by my assertions that Bloomberg did not buy this election - that it was gift from non-voters to Democrats. Of course, the feckless Republican party didn't help by not running candidates in 25+% of the races.

These are the facts, swallow them if you can:

Districts that have always been democrat, stayed democrat. None were flipped to Republican as far as I know. Democrats in those districts won by large margins. No surprises. Many of these districts had no Republican challenger.

Districts that have always been Republican (that didn't get flipped to Democrat) were won by large margins. No surprises. Almost all of these still had a democratic challenger.

But surprise - Democrats that won districts previously held by Republicans won by very slim margins, almost all with only (roughly) 50% of registered voters in those districts casting votes.

Example: District 40 in Fairfax County. That has been a Republican district for years. In 2019, Democrat Dan Helmer beat Republican Tim Hugo. It was the single most expensive race in Virginia state-house history. The Dem won 54% to 45%. Sounds like a landslide. But the votes were 13,166 to 10,880 - a 2,286 vote difference. That's a total of 24,046 votes. One of the lowest turnouts in that district in years. According to the COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA, DEPARTMENT OF ELECTIONS that district has 46,672 registered voters. 22,626, or 48% of registered voters didn't vote. You mean to tell me that in that 22,626 that didn't vote that there weren't 2,287 that would have voted Republican if they had gotten off their asses? In a district that is historically Republican?

Bloomberg's organization gave Dan Helmer $40,380 - and he won. In contrast, Bloomberg gave $163,506 to democratic candidate Missy Cotter Smasal, and $68,153 to democratic candidate Cheryl Turpin - and they both lost.

Bloomberg is everything you think he is. But he did not buy this election. His candidates barely won, and many of them lost, even though he invested heavily in them.

Bloomberg's candidates can be beat - if people will vote.

I know the inclination is to blame Bloomberg for shoving all this down our throats. And no doubt his candidates that did win will try and pay him back. But his candidates were feeble and beatable. Our side didn't vote.

The hard part of all this is the true part - Democrats won this election fair and square. We don't like to admit it, but they were better organized and more motivated and far more aggressive. They didn't cheat. They turned out more voters than our side did.

We have to do better next time around. Or we can expect the same. In the meantime, conservative Virginians have to live with what they allowed to happen. We'll have to see what gets passed. We'll be non-compliant to the extent we can. We'll have to fight in court. We have to maintain our dignity and take the high ground.

Since this election, I've upgrade my NRA membership, joined the VCDL, and given a sizeable donation to the Second Amendment Foundation.

We'll have to figure out how to get non-voters to pull their thumbs out of their asses and vote. Sometimes the only motivation to do so is pain.