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Until we as a nation get serious on enforcing drunk driving, arguing about better/worse is pretty pointless.

Seriously?
When I was a teenager and a new driver it was pretty lax. The cops would mostly just confiscate your cooler if you had beer in the car.
Now, it's totally different. They set up check points. They breathalyze on the least suspicion. They lowered the threshold to .08 from .10
As an attorney, it's now almost impossible to get anyone out of a DWI charge. The "administrative alcohol" process begins immediately, and almost always ends in at least a suspension.
It's taken very seriously, at least in this state.



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^^^ A first DUI offense here will get you a mandatory "blow box" installed on your car.
 
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Originally posted by chellim1:
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Until we as a nation get serious on enforcing drunk driving, arguing about better/worse is pretty pointless.

Seriously?
When I was a teenager and a new driver it was pretty lax. The cops would mostly just confiscate your cooler if you had beer in the car.
Now, it's totally different. They set up check points. They breathalyze on the least suspicion. They lowered the threshold to .08 from .10
As an attorney, it's now almost impossible to get anyone out of a DWI charge. The "administrative alcohol" process begins immediately, and almost always ends in at least a suspension.
It's taken very seriously, at least in this state.


Interlocks can be bypassed. People commonly drive on suspended licenses.

No one goes to jail for more than a night. Not much of a deterrent. When I was a rookie, first offense meant serving weekends. Second offense meant serving a couple weeks in a row. Unless it’s a DUI involving death, no one goes to jail. Then it’s a pennies on the dollar sentence. State lawmakers do not like paying to house inmates.




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Until we as a nation get serious on enforcing drunk driving, arguing about better/worse is pretty pointless.

Yep. Afaic, if a drunk driver kills someone, it's 25 years w/o parole. Second offense, 50. Third one, you get a choice of life w/o parole or death.


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Jackwads keep trying. This is the third time the voters and courts have shot down attempts to legalize maryjane in South Dakota.



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It's interesting when you look at the three counties that voted heavy in favor of legalization. Two contain the Pine Ridge and Rosebud Reservations and the third contains the University.


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A first DUI offense here will get you a mandatory "blow box" installed on your car.

They also sell a device that fits over the blow box so your nonalcoholic friends will not notice.
 
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Alcohol is the most abused drug in human history. It’s available on almost every street corner and licensed by the state and federal government. Look at domestic violence cases. Alcohol is present more often than not.
 
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Alcohol is the most abused drug in human history. It’s available on almost every street corner and licensed by the state and federal government. Look at domestic violence cases. Alcohol is present more often than not.

And introducing yet another drug to abuse and making it easily available to everyone makes what sense?


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