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The Unmanned Writer |
Just heard on the local radio (KOGO 600 am) that GM has announced they are designing out all gasoline and diesel vehicles by 2035 and only sell the "environmentally friendly" type cars and trucks. Wasn't there a movie somewhere, "never go full retard"? - Looks like GM just announced they are not going to take that advice... Life moves pretty fast. If you don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it. "If dogs don't go to Heaven, I want to go where they go" Will Rogers The definition of the words we used, carry a meaning of their own... | ||
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Cruising the Highway to Hell |
I was actually told that last year by a group of GM marketing folks and engineers while at a law enforcement vehicle presentation. They would actually like to be there earlier if they can. My guess is we get the pleasure of bailing them out again. “Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves.” ― Ronald Reagan Retired old fart | |||
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Domari Nolo |
This is just virtue signaling from big business to the new GDC administration and their "green new deal" supporters. Business has to stay in good standing with them. GM will find out what happens when nobody buys their vehicles. | |||
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Member |
If you remember, GM said the same thing in 2009 during the bailout. Except they said they wanted to be away from the internal combustion engine by 2020. See how that worked out? Their latest projection falls in line with what California wants by 2035. ——————————————— The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Psalm 14:1 | |||
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Didn't California experience 'rolling blackouts'? Now the blackouts will really be 'non-rolling blackouts'. I can't wait. I'm sorry if I hurt you feelings when I called you stupid - I thought you already knew - Unknown ................................... When you have no future, you live in the past. " Sycamore Row" by John Grisham | |||
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I wonder if there will be an option to charge the batteries specifically with nuclear or coal or oil or nat. gas or solar or wind or hydro or unicorn farts generated electricity? People should be forced to choose and then live with their stupid and uninformed choices! __________ "I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal labotomy." | |||
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No, not like Bill Clinton |
Just "feel good" talk, doesn't mean shit All of the manufacturers have said something similar | |||
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Mensch |
Just another reason not to buy their garbagewagens. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Yidn, shreibt un fershreibt" "The Nazis entered this war under the rather childish delusion that they were going to bomb everyone else, and nobody was going to bomb them. At Rotterdam, London, Warsaw and half a hundred other places, they put their rather naive theory into operation. They sowed the wind, and now they are going to reap the whirlwind." -Bomber Harris | |||
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Distinguished Pistol Shot |
It's 15 years from now. Just like the world will end in 12 years. | |||
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Funny Man |
Like it or not, things are going this direction. Solid state batteries are likely less than 10 years away and will accelerate the EV adoption curve significantly. Smaller and lighter batteries with double the range and a 10 year 500k mile lifespan that are potentially hot swappable. ______________________________ “I'd like to know why well-educated idiots keep apologizing for lazy and complaining people who think the world owes them a living.” ― John Wayne | |||
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Because they are basically mandated to do it by 2040. | |||
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The Unmanned Writer |
My mind is wandering towards Judge Dredd. Mmmmmm, rat burgers. Life moves pretty fast. If you don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it. "If dogs don't go to Heaven, I want to go where they go" Will Rogers The definition of the words we used, carry a meaning of their own... | |||
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Smarter than the average bear |
I don’t know if they’ll make it by 2035, but we’re definitely heading that way. If y’all haven’t noticed, it’s been a while since trains and ships burned wood or coal to create steam. | |||
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Savor the limelight |
Yes, but will they fly? "Then, in 1924, Captain Eddie Rickenbacker assured us that flying autos would become commonplace within the next two decades." | |||
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Wasn't that Demolition Man? | |||
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Savor the limelight |
Yep, not since last fall when the S.S. Badger stopped for the season. It'll be running again in May. There's still a few steam powered freighters as well, but they burn oil, just like most of the other ships in the world. | |||
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No double standards |
My guess is that you have guessed correctly. "Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women. When it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it....While it lies there, it needs no constitution, no law, no court to save it" - Judge Learned Hand, May 1944 | |||
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Festina Lente |
so we just need to come up with ~ 25.8 quads of energy currently provided by petroleum for transportation to recharge our vehicles (assuming 100% efficiency and no growth is usage over the next 15 years). Neglecting the current 0.03 quads used for electric vehicles in 2019, total electricity generation = 37 quads, of which solar = 1, wind = 2.7, natural gas = 11.7 and coal = 10.2. seems like we're putting hamster wheel effort into what will need a Manhattan / Apollo project level shift in resources. https://flowcharts.llnl.gov/commodities/energy NRA Life Member - "Fear God and Dreadnaught" | |||
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No double standards |
You bring up a good point. With gov't increasing control of the power grid, combined with their being self serving and incompetent, having all electric transportation could shut down the economy. "Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women. When it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it....While it lies there, it needs no constitution, no law, no court to save it" - Judge Learned Hand, May 1944 | |||
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Well, at least we know what to expect when that happens. Start stocking up on TP ASAP! | |||
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