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The Unmanned Writer
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Just heard on the local radio (KOGO 600 am) that GM has announced they are designing out all gasoline and diesel vehicles by 2035 and only sell the "environmentally friendly" type cars and trucks.

Wasn't there a movie somewhere, "never go full retard"? - Looks like GM just announced they are not going to take that advice...






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I was actually told that last year by a group of GM marketing folks and engineers while at a law enforcement vehicle presentation.

They would actually like to be there earlier if they can.

My guess is we get the pleasure of bailing them out again.




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Domari Nolo
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This is just virtue signaling from big business to the new GDC administration and their "green new deal" supporters. Business has to stay in good standing with them. GM will find out what happens when nobody buys their vehicles.



 
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If you remember, GM said the same thing in 2009 during the bailout. Except they said they wanted to be away from the internal combustion engine by 2020. See how that worked out?

Their latest projection falls in line with what California wants by 2035.


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Didn't California experience 'rolling blackouts'? Now the blackouts will really be 'non-rolling blackouts'. I can't wait.



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I wonder if there will be an option to charge the batteries specifically with nuclear or coal or oil or nat. gas or solar or wind or hydro or unicorn farts generated electricity?

People should be forced to choose and then live with their stupid and uninformed choices!


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Just "feel good" talk, doesn't mean shit

All of the manufacturers have said something similar



 
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Just another reason not to buy their garbagewagens.


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It's 15 years from now. Just like the world will end in 12 years.
 
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Like it or not, things are going this direction. Solid state batteries are likely less than 10 years away and will accelerate the EV adoption curve significantly. Smaller and lighter batteries with double the range and a 10 year 500k mile lifespan that are potentially hot swappable.


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Originally posted by BigSwede:
Just "feel good" talk, doesn't mean shit

All of the manufacturers have said something similar
Because they are basically mandated to do it by 2040.
 
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The Unmanned Writer
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My mind is wandering towards Judge Dredd.

Mmmmmm, rat burgers. Big Grin






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I don’t know if they’ll make it by 2035, but we’re definitely heading that way. If y’all haven’t noticed, it’s been a while since trains and ships burned wood or coal to create steam.
 
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Yes, but will they fly?

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Originally posted by LS1 GTO:
My mind is wandering towards Judge Dredd.

Mmmmmm, rat burgers. Big Grin


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I don’t know if they’ll make it by 2035, but we’re definitely heading that way. If y’all haven’t noticed, it’s been a while since trains and ships burned wood or coal to create steam.


Yep, not since last fall when the S.S. Badger stopped for the season. It'll be running again in May. There's still a few steam powered freighters as well, but they burn oil, just like most of the other ships in the world.
 
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Originally posted by 95flhr:. . . My guess is we get the pleasure of bailing them out again.


My guess is that you have guessed correctly.




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Originally posted by honestlou:
I don’t know if they’ll make it by 2035, but we’re definitely heading that way. If y’all haven’t noticed, it’s been a while since trains and ships burned wood or coal to create steam.


Yep, not since last fall when the S.S. Badger stopped for the season. It'll be running again in May. There's still a few steam powered freighters as well, but they burn oil, just like most of the other ships in the world.


so we just need to come up with ~ 25.8 quads of energy currently provided by petroleum for transportation to recharge our vehicles (assuming 100% efficiency and no growth is usage over the next 15 years). Neglecting the current 0.03 quads used for electric vehicles

in 2019, total electricity generation = 37 quads, of which solar = 1, wind = 2.7, natural gas = 11.7 and coal = 10.2.

seems like we're putting hamster wheel effort into what will need a Manhattan / Apollo project level shift in resources.



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Didn't California experience 'rolling blackouts'? Now the blackouts will really be 'non-rolling blackouts'. I can't wait.


You bring up a good point. With gov't increasing control of the power grid, combined with their being self serving and incompetent, having all electric transportation could shut down the economy.




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Originally posted by mcrimm:
Didn't California experience 'rolling blackouts'? Now the blackouts will really be 'non-rolling blackouts'. I can't wait.


You bring up a good point. With gov't increasing control of the power grid, combined with their being self serving and incompetent, having all electric transportation could shut down the economy.


Well, at least we know what to expect when that happens. Start stocking up on TP ASAP!
 
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