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Looks Like GM Has Gone Full Retard - NO More Gasoline/Diesel Vehicles by 2035
January 29, 2021, 09:08 AM
LS1 GTOLooks Like GM Has Gone Full Retard - NO More Gasoline/Diesel Vehicles by 2035
Just heard on the local radio (KOGO 600 am) that GM has announced they are designing out all gasoline and diesel vehicles by 2035 and only sell the "environmentally friendly" type cars and trucks.
Wasn't there a movie somewhere, "never go full retard"? - Looks like GM just announced they are not going to take that advice...
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January 29, 2021, 09:34 AM
95flhrI was actually told that last year by a group of GM marketing folks and engineers while at a law enforcement vehicle presentation.
They would actually like to be there earlier if they can.
My guess is we get the pleasure of bailing them out again.
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January 29, 2021, 09:51 AM
Chris17404This is just virtue signaling from big business to the new GDC administration and their "green new deal" supporters. Business has to stay in good standing with them. GM will find out what happens when nobody buys their vehicles.
January 29, 2021, 09:53 AM
PowerSurgeIf you remember, GM said the same thing in 2009 during the bailout. Except they said they wanted to be away from the internal combustion engine by 2020. See how that worked out?
Their latest projection falls in line with what California wants by 2035.
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January 29, 2021, 10:04 AM
mcrimmDidn't California experience 'rolling blackouts'? Now the blackouts will really be 'non-rolling blackouts'. I can't wait.
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CooksterI wonder if there will be an option to charge the batteries specifically with nuclear or coal or oil or nat. gas or solar or wind or hydro or unicorn farts generated electricity?
People should be forced to choose and then live with their stupid and uninformed choices!
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January 29, 2021, 10:14 AM
BigSwedeJust "feel good" talk, doesn't mean shit
All of the manufacturers have said something similar
January 29, 2021, 10:19 AM
kz1000Just another reason not to buy their garbagewagens.
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January 29, 2021, 10:19 AM
dgshooterIt's 15 years from now. Just like the world will end in 12 years.
January 29, 2021, 10:23 AM
TXJIMLike it or not, things are going this direction. Solid state batteries are likely less than 10 years away and will accelerate the EV adoption curve significantly. Smaller and lighter batteries with double the range and a 10 year 500k mile lifespan that are potentially hot swappable.
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January 29, 2021, 10:28 AM
1s1kquote:
Originally posted by BigSwede:
Just "feel good" talk, doesn't mean shit
All of the manufacturers have said something similar
Because they are basically mandated to do it by 2040.
January 29, 2021, 10:29 AM
LS1 GTOMy mind is wandering towards Judge Dredd.
Mmmmmm, rat burgers.
Life moves pretty fast. If you don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.
"If dogs don't go to Heaven, I want to go where they go" Will Rogers
The definition of the words we used, carry a meaning of their own...
January 29, 2021, 10:36 AM
honestlouI don’t know if they’ll make it by 2035, but we’re definitely heading that way. If y’all haven’t noticed, it’s been a while since trains and ships burned wood or coal to create steam.
January 29, 2021, 10:39 AM
trapper189Yes, but will they fly?
"Then, in 1924, Captain Eddie Rickenbacker assured us that flying autos would become commonplace within the next two decades."
January 29, 2021, 10:43 AM
Pykerquote:
Originally posted by LS1 GTO:
My mind is wandering towards Judge Dredd.
Mmmmmm, rat burgers.
Wasn't that
Demolition Man?January 29, 2021, 11:00 AM
trapper189quote:
Originally posted by honestlou:
I don’t know if they’ll make it by 2035, but we’re definitely heading that way. If y’all haven’t noticed, it’s been a while since trains and ships burned wood or coal to create steam.
Yep, not since last fall when the S.S. Badger stopped for the season. It'll be running again in May. There's still a few steam powered freighters as well, but they burn oil, just like most of the other ships in the world.
January 29, 2021, 11:17 AM
Scoutmasterquote:
Originally posted by 95flhr:. . . My guess is we get the pleasure of bailing them out again.
My guess is that you have guessed correctly.
"Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women. When it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it....While it lies there, it needs no constitution, no law, no court to save it"
- Judge Learned Hand, May 1944 January 29, 2021, 11:24 AM
feersum dreadnaughtquote:
Originally posted by trapper189:
quote:
Originally posted by honestlou:
I don’t know if they’ll make it by 2035, but we’re definitely heading that way. If y’all haven’t noticed, it’s been a while since trains and ships burned wood or coal to create steam.
Yep, not since last fall when the S.S. Badger stopped for the season. It'll be running again in May. There's still a few steam powered freighters as well, but they burn oil, just like most of the other ships in the world.
so we just need to come up with ~ 25.8 quads of energy currently provided by petroleum for transportation to recharge our vehicles (assuming 100% efficiency and no growth is usage over the next 15 years). Neglecting the current 0.03 quads used for electric vehicles
in 2019, total electricity generation = 37 quads, of which solar = 1, wind = 2.7, natural gas = 11.7 and coal = 10.2.
seems like we're putting hamster wheel effort into what will need a Manhattan / Apollo project level shift in resources.
https://flowcharts.llnl.gov/commodities/energy
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January 29, 2021, 11:29 AM
Scoutmasterquote:
Originally posted by mcrimm:
Didn't California experience 'rolling blackouts'? Now the blackouts will really be 'non-rolling blackouts'. I can't wait.
You bring up a good point. With gov't increasing control of the power grid, combined with their being self serving and incompetent, having all electric transportation could shut down the economy.
"Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women. When it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it....While it lies there, it needs no constitution, no law, no court to save it"
- Judge Learned Hand, May 1944 January 29, 2021, 11:44 AM
tsmccullquote:
Originally posted by Scoutmaster:
quote:
Originally posted by mcrimm:
Didn't California experience 'rolling blackouts'? Now the blackouts will really be 'non-rolling blackouts'. I can't wait.
You bring up a good point. With gov't increasing control of the power grid, combined with their being self serving and incompetent, having all electric transportation could shut down the economy.
Well, at least we know what to expect when that happens. Start stocking up on TP ASAP!