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As to the haters - what do expect? Those two have been selling sexy shows for decades. If you don't like sexy dancing, you shouldn't watch.




And when you're sitting there with Grandma and 3 and 4 and 5 year olds? or like one poster said, at a CHURCH FUNCTION watching the Super Bowl?

Okaaaaay... Roll Eyes


 
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As to the haters - what do expect? Those two have been selling sexy shows for decades. If you don't like sexy dancing, you shouldn't watch.




And when you're sitting there with Grandma and 3 and 4 and 5 year olds? or like one poster said, at a CHURCH FUNCTION watching the Super Bowl?

Okaaaaay... Roll Eyes


Yeah, because when everyone heard Shakira and J-Lo were performing, they thought it would be gospel music and ballroom dancing.
 
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This reminds of Arc’s earlier thread.

“I hate the NFL and don’t watch it”
“Don’t know who these two girls are”
“I don’t like women’s asses”

But they jump into this thread anyway.
For the record, I could watch Shakira do the ass-time show all night Big Grin
 
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... so who won the game? Manchester United? Razz
 
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Shhhh... Don't tell me; I'm watching ManU & Wolves right now. Love that TIVO! I can record multiple games to watch later AND speed past those poor excuses for half-time 'shows. Now I'd watch if the NFL would host one with college marching bands from the competing teams cities. And they'd probably save a bunch of money.


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I'm sorry I can't vote, but I'm disgusted and embarrassed that my grown daughters were in the same room watching the show. I can't get over how slutty that 'Performance" was. I guess that makes me "not woke". Ugh


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My first stab at this was pure humor. This is the real opinion.

If you are buying tickets to a J-Lo or Shakira concert, you anticipate and expect this type of show. It is the specific demographic they chose to entertain, and who chooses to attend.

The Superbowl is different, it is pitched as good entertainment for all ages to grab the widest viewership possible. With that in mind, entertainment should follow that line. If you hire provacative entertainment, they need to tone it down. I didn't ask then to perform, and was in a restaurant that had 2 dozen large TVs on every wall. The only way to not watch would have been to close my eyes or leave the building.

"Don't watch" is not acceptable when your intent is to provide a good event and half time show for ALL viewers. I saw parents covering kids eyes, and leaving shortly after.

In my opinion.... Bad idea for a Superbowl half time show.




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Titties and ass, horrible, terrible, worst thing EVER.

Dudes giving each other concussions as they bash into each other, chasing an inflatable turd around, good, clean family fun.



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I'm sorry I can't vote, but I'm disgusted and embarrassed that my grown daughters were in the same room watching the show. I can't get over how slutty that 'Performance" was. I guess that makes me "not woke". Ugh

Really triggered there.

We can go back to disasters like this Roll Eyes
 
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As to the haters - what do expect? Those two have been selling sexy shows for decades. If you don't like sexy dancing, you shouldn't watch.




And when you're sitting there with Grandma and 3 and 4 and 5 year olds? or like one poster said, at a CHURCH FUNCTION watching the Super Bowl?

Okaaaaay... Roll Eyes


Yeah, because when everyone heard Shakira and J-Lo were performing, they thought it would be gospel music and ballroom dancing.


Your way of saying it is funnier than mine.

It was totally predictable and entirely consistent with Super Bowl halftime shows from the past 20 years.




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As to the haters - what do expect? Those two have been selling sexy shows for decades. If you don't like sexy dancing, you shouldn't watch.




And when you're sitting there with Grandma and 3 and 4 and 5 year olds? or like one poster said, at a CHURCH FUNCTION watching the Super Bowl?

Okaaaaay... Roll Eyes


Yeah, because when everyone heard Shakira and J-Lo were performing, they thought it would be gospel music and ballroom dancing.


Your way of saying it is funnier than mine.

It was totally predictable and entirely consistent with Super Bowl halftime shows from the past 20 years.
You're making a strawman fallacy argument by misrepresenting the other position being about scantily clad women shaking their rears. There is a big difference between that and:
* Shakira doing that weird bondage dance with rope
* J Lo and both her male and female dance troop dancing in leather BDSM outfits
* J Lo and some of her women dancers switching to pole dancing
* crotch grabbing

Get rid of the BDSM overtone, the pole dancing, and crotch grabbing and it would've been the run of the mill half-time show aimed at entertaining the masses.



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I'm sorry I can't vote, but I'm disgusted and embarrassed that my grown daughters were in the same room watching the show. I can't get over how slutty that 'Performance" was. I guess that makes me "not woke". Ugh


Just a guess, but I guess your grown daughters have seen women's bodies before, and even seen them dancing and not wearing much.




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You're making a strawman fallacy argument by misrepresenting the other position being about scantily clad women shaking their rears. There is a big difference between that and:
* Shakira doing that weird bondage dance with rope
* J Lo and both her male and female dance troop dancing in leather BDSM outfits
* J Lo and some of her women dancers switching to pole dancing
* crotch grabbing

Get rid of the BDSM overtone, the pole dancing, and crotch grabbing and it would've been the run of the mill half-time show aimed at entertaining the masses.


Nope, none of their show was inconsistent with what J-Lo and Shakira do. You were hoping, foolishly, that they would have presented only a mildly sexy show, instead of a full-on sexy show.

(And that isn't a straw man argument. I get your position, you are against a too-sexy show. We may differ on what is too-sexy, but I didn't ascribe a position to you that you don't hold.)




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My first stab at this was pure humor. This is the real opinion.

If you are buying tickets to a J-Lo or Shakira concert, you anticipate and expect this type of show. It is the specific demographic they chose to entertain, and who chooses to attend.

The Superbowl is different, it is pitched as good entertainment for all ages to grab the widest viewership possible. With that in mind, entertainment should follow that line. If you hire provacative entertainment, they need to tone it down. I didn't ask then to perform, and was in a restaurant that had 2 dozen large TVs on every wall. The only way to not watch would have been to close my eyes or leave the building.

"Don't watch" is not acceptable when your intent is to provide a good event and half time show for ALL viewers. I saw parents covering kids eyes, and leaving shortly after.

In my opinion.... Bad idea for a Superbowl half time show.


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Well said. We had paused the game for a bit for some family stuff and I thought to check the forum before we restarted it. I personally didn't want my kids to watch a pole dance (stated on the forum) show so we fast forwarded after I read the reviews. Shows are either family friendly or not and this was not. And the "not" is the big issue as the NFL advertises the Super Bowl as a family event not adults looking for T&A.
Even Vegas has shows that differ based on time of day and J Lo and Shakira should have choreographed for families and not adults. All concerned blew it.


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Shakira is talented on many levels. Next year Super Bowl entertainment will be ,rhythmic chanting by the Handmaidens Tale followed by a church chat led by J. F. Junior.
 
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You're making a strawman fallacy argument by misrepresenting the other position being about scantily clad women shaking their rears. There is a big difference between that and:
* Shakira doing that weird bondage dance with rope
* J Lo and both her male and female dance troop dancing in leather BDSM outfits
* J Lo and some of her women dancers switching to pole dancing
* crotch grabbing

Get rid of the BDSM overtone, the pole dancing, and crotch grabbing and it would've been the run of the mill half-time show aimed at entertaining the masses.


Nope, none of their show was inconsistent with what J-Lo and Shakira do. You were hoping, foolishly, that they would have presented only a mildly sexy show, instead of a full-on sexy show.

(And that isn't a straw man argument. I get your position, you are against a too-sexy show. We may differ on what is too-sexy, but I didn't ascribe a position to you that you don't hold.)
You're so contrarian that you:
  • changed your own argument of the half-time show being "entirely consistent with Super Bowl halftime shows from the past 20 years."
  • strawmanned my argument away from the outline of the portions of the show that weren't the run of the mill half-time show



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    9 out of 10 strawmen enjoyed the half time show.
     
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    Shows are either family friendly or not and this was not. And the "not" is the big issue as the NFL advertises the Super Bowl as a family event not adults looking for T&A.


    In my mind pro footbal has not, and never will be a "family affair". No matter what the NFL tries to force feed you. Every single game I've ever been too since the early 80s has included drunken brawls in the stands, binge drinking, DUI driving, tittie flashing mayhem. People start partying at tailgates hours before the game and typically drink until the stadium turns off the tap.

    I'm willing to bet that somewhere around 80% of the viewing audience at home and in the stands were drunk, and the majority were males. Paying people to try and destroy each other on the field in a "civilized manner" will never be civilized. It is the modern day Coliseum full of Gladiators and to think otherwise is foolish.

    Seeing a 50 year old ass in what is essentially a bikini is the very least of my concerns.
     
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