Should the bill become law I wouldn’t be surprised to see higher prices and tight supply initially as everyone and their dog shovels hundreds into the furnace. Over time, hopefully prices drop as manufacturers crank out product.

I am most excited to see short-barreled offerings from manufacturers…factory 7”-14.5” ARs, AKS-74u’s, PS90s with 10.3” barrels, 10”-14” shotguns, Mini and Micro UZI’s, and every model HK ‘could’ offer in semi-auto (G36k and c, “SP7”, MR556 and MR762 bases with 416 and 417 uppers). Hell, even Glock and Beretta could offer ‘tribute models’ of the 18 and 93r. You could be free to do it yourself, but I would love to see factory models whose only variations from originals is the lack of a giggle switch.

Lots of possibilities!

And, who would be the unintended victim of these items becoming non-NFA? Da brace. It will go the way of the dodo bird.

A nice .22 suppressed pistol just for fun.

Maybe I'd invent a slip-on device for the asshats at the range with compensators on their rifles that are so loud it causes hearing damage even using ear muffs and ear plugs.

The monkey has it right.

I'd get stocks to replace the braces on various "pistols". And some more cans.

One of the new short barrel HK MR556 A4's would be nice.

Definitely add a few items, and maybe rebarrel a few others. As for the price of suppressors, my guess is initially there would be an increase in price due to increased demand. I would think that in fairly short order prices would drop considerably. First of all, a lot more companies would get into the business to meet the demand, probably to include a number of sole proprietorship type businesses that would be willing to make silencers now that they wouldn’t have the NFA red tape to follow. Also, silencers are pretty simple to make, they’re basically a metal tube with freeze out plugs in the tube. Lots of people would make their own, further driving the price down. This would be a galactic big win for us if this legislation makes it across the finish line.

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Originally posted by 12131:
Definitely will buy suppressors, not silencers.

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From BATFE Form 4, Definitions 1c:

(7) a muffler or silencer for any firearm whether or not such firearm is included
within this definition;

I'm going to start calling them mufflers.

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Originally posted by benny6:
A Huxwerx flow-through titanium 3D printed 30 cal suppressor.

How do you 3D print titanium? You may be onto something here.

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Originally posted by 12131:

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
And why is "silencer" not correct terminology?

Silence defined: complete absence of sound
A silencer, by definition, should be able to completely mute a gunshot sound. But it doesn’t.

A suppressor reduces the loudness of a gunshot but does not completely eliminate it. If it did, it would be called a silencer.

Or, just use “can” and call it a day.

"Can" works for me.

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Originally posted by Lefty Sig:
I'd get stocks to replace the braces on various "pistols".

Same with me, I'd get a real German HK A3 stock for my SP5, a stock to replace a brace on my 556xi pistol, and buy a 300BLK AR 9" pistol with stock. Perfect mate to my Omega 9K suppressor

I would get one for my S&W .38 Special. Just like in the movies.

Initially, prices would rise until supply catches up to demand.

Second, every company and it's brother will start making suppressors.

Supply will, at some point, surpass demand, and prices will fall, causing smaller manufacturers to fail and disappear.

The market will come out with better suppressors since the cost to to get in the market will be much cheaper to those who can innovate.

For a period, suppressors will probably require a 4473 to buy from a dealer or transferee. But they aren't firearms, so I suspect the courts will not consider them as such, depending on the make-up of the court.

The best part, to me, will be the ability to sell suppressors within state lines without having to fill out a 4473. But this will depend on state laws. At some point, we ought to be able to sell them across state lines and just ship them, like an optic.

Of course, the commies will still try to grab them/prevent all this.

They've actually been doing this for several years. Most of the new suppressors are printed titanium.

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Originally posted by architect:

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Originally posted by benny6:
A Huxwerx flow-through titanium 3D printed 30 cal suppressor.

How do you 3D print titanium? You may be onto something here.

This is pretty cool, too.

Can I get my money back, does this remove all previously filed NFA items from the NFA requirements, so Can I get rid of the trust, move them back into my name without filings any paperwork or fees, and take the engraving off my MPX with stock.

Can we 3d print our own suppressors or will that fall under the no ghost gun rules. If why not buy a 3d printer, download some files and get crack-a-lackin....

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Originally posted by AUTiger89:

For a period, suppressors will probably require a 4473 to buy from a dealer or transferee. But they aren't firearms, so I suspect the courts will not consider them as such, depending on the make-up of the court.

The best part, to me, will be the ability to sell suppressors within state lines without having to fill out a 4473. But this will depend on state laws. At some point, we ought to be able to sell them across state lines and just ship them, like an optic.

Suppressors will still be regulated as Title 1 firearms, like rifles, shotguns, pistols, etc. The Gun Control Act still defines a “firearm muffler or firearm silencer” as a firearm. The proposed legislation aims to remove silencers, short barreled rifles and shotguns from the purview of the National Firearms Act (Title 26 USC). So they will no longer be considered Title 2 firearms like machine guns or destructive devices but suppressors will still be regulated as firearms. So you’ll still need to fill out a 4473 to buy one, just like a rifle, pistol, or shotgun, you just won’t need to register it in the National Firearms Registry and Transfer Record or pay a special tax. This of course also means that you can’t sell them across state lines to a non FFL, and other restrictions such as with normal firearms, but this is still a huge step in the right direction. Just Don’t mistake the legislation for more than it is.

Love to have a can for a 1911. Though I'd have to get one with a threaded barrel. Second would be a can for the 10-22. Maybe an integrally suppressed 300 Blackout.

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Originally posted by Opus Dei:

You seen the JK VERSAX 12? I kinda want a 12 gauge suppressor, myself.

First time I am seeing it. Fine by me, either one. I’ve got a permanent rural move in my future within 2-3 years. No PD, just sheriff/constable situation and very gun friendly area. The Vepr12 with a can, would instantly be my everything HD/property SD firearm. 12 and 10 round magazines are my standard but at that point I’d sling it, and mount the 25rd drum full of slugs

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Originally posted by Lt CHEG:
Suppressors will still be regulated as Title 1 firearms, like rifles, shotguns, pistols, etc. The Gun Control Act still defines a “firearm muffler or firearm silencer” as a firearm...

Gun Control Act Definition of Silencer

18 U.S.C., § 921(A)(24)

The term “Firearm Silencer” or “Firearm Muffler” means any device for silencing, muffling, or diminishing the report of a portable firearm, including any combination of parts, designed or redesigned, and intended for the use in assembling or fabricating a firearm silencer or firearm muffler, any part intended only for use in such assembly or fabrication.

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/f...-definition-silencer

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I'm not sure where in this definition it says a silencer is defined as a firearm.