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I agree with you. If this were only a standards/honor issue, let't put a marijuana and cocaine dispensary on board and tell people not to use it. "Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women. When it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it....While it lies there, it needs no constitution, no law, no court to save it" - Judge Learned Hand, May 1944 | |||
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If you meant to imply first hand experience, no, not even close. I know this because gay people have existed significantly longer than Navy ships, and Don't Ask Don't Tell wouldn't have ever came to be if such things weren't true, and while I'm neither gay nor a Navy guy, I've been in the Army, worked in large companies, on large projects, some in servicing large government contracts, and people are always fucking, in high school, in college, at work, on vacation, on business trips, in military units, etc. Basic human nature. And to deny it is like trying to deny gravity exists. | |||
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It's human nature. Put the ugliest woman imaginable in the middle of a bunch of guys, and they are ALL going to try to impress her, whether they're aware of it or not. It's just men are wired. Even if they're not having sex with her, her presence is having an impact on their performance, whether negative or positive. It's not a conscious decision like stealing money or munitions. ____________________________________________________________ Georgeair: "...looking around my house this morning, it's not easily defended for long by two people in the event of real anarchy. The entryways might be slick for the latecomers though...." | |||
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It's a terrible drug CMSGT USAF (Retired) Chief of Police (Retired) | |||
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I agree with you Alan. And to those who have never served at sea, you really don't fully comprehend the isolation from everything other than your ship and shipmates. Mixing in females is nothing short of lighting an explosives' fuse period. Another example of political correctness and irrational gender equality gone amuck. Certifiable member of the gun toting, septuagenarian, bucket list workin', crazed retiree, bald is beautiful club! USN (RET), COTEP #192 | |||
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| No double standards |
Another bulls-eye. "Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women. When it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it....While it lies there, it needs no constitution, no law, no court to save it" - Judge Learned Hand, May 1944 | |||
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It's no hypothetical study you're looking at the results. ____________________________________________________ The butcher with the sharpest knife has the warmest heart. | |||
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"It’s not a question of women on submarines or warships, it’s a question of standards" Isn't that what 'port call' was all about? **************~~~~~~~~~~ "I've been on this rock too long to bother with these liars any more." ~SIGforum advisor~ "When the pain of staying the same outweighs the pain of change, then change will come."~~sigmonkey | |||
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If the urge to fuck were less strong, there would be many fewer humans running about, if any at all. God Bless and Protect the Once and Future President, Donald John Trump. | |||
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Good analogy. The question asked should be "What policies will make the most feared submarine force (Army, Navy, military etc.) the world has ever seen?" “People have to really suffer before they can risk doing what they love.” –Chuck Palahnuik Be harder to kill: https://preparefit.ck.page | |||
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The survival instant is extremely powerful. The procreation instinct, be it for recreation or procreation, can be more powerful in certain cases. People will often risk their careers, families, religious vows, even jeopardize their lives, just to, well....you get the idea. You put people in mixed gender company and it will be inevitable. It isn't that every single person will pair up and make the Beast with Two Backs, but every tenth person in the crowd will eventually find that other person who has poor personal boundaries/insecurity/daddy issues, etc. A well balanced breakfast being necessary to the start of a healthy day, the right of the people to keep and eat food shall not be infringed. | |||
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This 100% Someone else suggested the idea of how do you build the most threatening, offensive, effective team? Separate the men and women on to different ships. Have those ships compete. That would work. Mixed sexes in the military - big, BIG mistake. | |||
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It's not gay if you're underway. | |||
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Bullshit... Gays are a very small percentage of society, not matter what the LGBT group (or you) think. Heterosexuals are the VAST majority of our population. Putting men and women together on a ship for a prolonged period of time is going to cause problems. Period. There may have been a small amount of butt riding going on with male only crews but it pales compared to putting women on the same boat. Do you really think this is a non issue? Refer to Balze posts in this thread. I'm pretty sure he's up to speed with the whole living on a ship scenario. | |||
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It's only queer if you're at the pier. ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan | |||
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