The overall number was apparently $30 million, FWTW.

Only an ass as bad as Strange could get a fool like Moore elected. Gross, on both accounts. This election was a lose lose for the people in any case. A true lesser evil is all it was.

In the run up to 2018, I am disposed to be cheerful about racking up every reliable vote in the Senate that can be racked up. It's time to slash and burn so that something better can be built.

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In the run up to 2018, I am disposed to be cheerful about racking up every reliable vote in the Senate that can be racked up. It's time to slash and burn so that something better can be built.

I agree with the second sentence; Roy Moore will not be cowed or bought. He will vote and support what he feels is right. Example: If the Democrats wanted funding for Planned Parenthood bad enough to support Trump on healthcare if PP funding was included, Moore would vote no.

The "reliable" vote would be Big Luther. That's why McConnell and Trump supported BL; they wanted a "reliable" vote to further our agenda.

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Only an ass as bad as Strange could get a fool like Moore elected. Gross, on both accounts. This election was a lose lose for the people in any case. A true lesser evil is all it was.

Yep.

Comparisons to Huey Long and other Southern politicians. If he wins he will be a curiosity in the Senate. Entertaining piece from the Mobile Press Register below:

George Wallace? Huey Long? How Roy Moore stacks up with populist political rebels of the past

Updated on October 1, 2017 at 6:03 AM Posted on October 1, 2017 at 6:01 AM
Roy Moore's rode a populist message to the Republican nomination for the U.S. Senate on Tuesday, Sept. 26, 2017. He's drawing comparisons to two other iconic political populists - former Alabama Gov. George Wallace (top right) and former Louisiana Gov. and Sen. Huey Long (bottom right).
Roy Moore's rode a populist message to the Republican nomination for the U.S. Senate on Tuesday, Sept. 26, 2017. He's drawing comparisons to two other iconic political populists - former Alabama Gov. George Wallace (top right) and former Louisiana Gov. and Sen. Huey Long (bottom right).



When Roy Moore lashes out against Muslims and same-sex marriage, his opponents compare him to George Wallace and his segregationist crusades.

When Moore happily dons a cowboy hat or glad-hands with voters while bluegrass fiddlers strike up a tune, Southern historians are reminded of Texas Sen. Wilbert "Pappy" O'Daniel, who campaigned with country bands and declared, "Hillbillies are politicians now."

And when Moore forcefully promises to shake up the Washington establishment, some political observers see similarities with Louisiana's Huey "Kingfish" Long.

Whatever the comparisons, one thing has become clear since Moore defeated Luther Strange in Tuesday's Senate runoff for the GOP nomination: He could, if elected in December, usher in a rare blend of populism that hasn't been seen in the more buttoned-down Senate for decades.

"He might be the most interesting personality in the United States Senate since Huey Long was there in the 1930s," said Jess Brown, a retired political science professor at Athens State University.

"I would not be surprised if Roy Moore, if not for a while, becomes a bit of a darling for the mass media," Brown said. "There will be some on social media, talk radio and mainstream press who will love him."

'Doesn't learn easily'

If Moore is elected to the U.S. Senate on Dec. 12, he'll begin scripting perhaps the most significant chapter in his public career.

History has been relatively kind to Long -- largely because of his work to lift up Louisiana's working-class poor -- but the entertaining O'Daniel has come to be seen as generally inconsequential. And Deep South senators who flourished espousing racist messages have, by and large, been relegated the footnotes.

"There have been a lot of Southern senators over the last 70 to 75 years who have become memorable names," said Cal Jillson, professor of political science at Southern Methodist University in Dallas. "They take on a colorful personality and repertoire and a way of doing politics and talking about issues that are pitch-perfect to their local electorate, but is Pig Latin at the national level."

Many political observers agree that Moore would become an immediate curiosity in the Senate, his every move followed by national and international media. After all, he'd bring a reputation as a man twice ousted from his job as Alabama chief justice, once for refusing to move his Ten Commandments monument and again for suggesting resistance to the U.S. Supreme Court's gay-marriage ruling.

Molly Reynolds, a fellow in governance studies at the Brookings Institute in Washington, said one of the first things she keeps an eye on is whether freshman senators position themselves, in some way, against their own party. In Moore's case, he's already vowing to support any uprising against Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, whose political action committee spent millions of dollars in efforts to tarnish his name and derail his Senate candidacy.

"The Republicans only have 52 seats and as we've seen with this health care thing, you don't have many votes to spare," said Reynolds. "In most cases, a hypothetical Senator Moore or a Senator Strange ... they would vote the same on most things. But when you have someone coming in opposed by party leadership, you don't know what might happen."

Moore might find himself compared, in contemporary Senate circles, with Texas' Ted Cruz or Kentucky's Rand Paul, both of whom are considered political outsiders. But with Cruz, Jillson said, he's moved from being a "bomb-thrower" to more of a "problem-solver" on a variety of issues, including judicial sentencing reform.

"It's hard for me to see that Roy Moore can make that transition," Jillson said. "A guy twice removed as a chief justice for refusing to comport to national rulings is a guy who doesn't learn easily."

'He would have moved'

When Moore jauntily rides his horse on his way to vote, or pulls out a revolver at a rally to illustrate his support for the Second Amendment, some longtime political observers see Wallace in his political heyday.

"They both have a populist thing about them," said Steve Flowers, author of the 2015 book "Of Goats & Governors: Six Decades of Colorful Alabama Political Stories.

Said William Stewart, a professor emeritus of political sciences at the University of Alabama: Stewart: "Moore is the closest parallel to Wallace since Wallace, without question in mind."

Next up: Moore v. Jones in Alabama Senate race
Next up: Moore v. Jones in Alabama Senate race

Moore, over the years, has tried to separate himself from the Wallace comparisons. And Wallace's daughter, Peggy Wallace Kennedy, while not necessarily defending her father, wrote an op-ed in 2016 decrying Moore as a dangerous grand-stander.

Indeed, said Flowers, there's a key difference between the two men: Wallace was a demagogue, he said, but Moore is not. "If you get to know him, you would know that he's doing is what he believes in. He's lost his job twice. Wallace probably believed in segregation, but he wasn't losing his job for it."

Referencing Wallace's "Stand in the Schoolhouse Door" in 1963, Flowers said, "If a federal judge or judicial panel told Wallace he would lose his job as governor if he did not move out of the schoolhouse door, he would have moved of it."

Dan Carter, professor emeritus at the University of South Carolina and author of the 1995 book, "The Politics of Rage: George Wallace, the Origins of the New Conservatism and the Transformation of American Politics," takes the view that it's difficult to draw a comparison between Moore and Wallace.

"I would say at the outset that, from my perspective, Wallace was much more intelligent and politically savvy than Moore," Carter said. "To some degree, Wallace was able to transcend his regional limitations when he first came to national prominence. Moore is very much a creature of Alabama politics with its almost tribal-like political allegiances."

He continued, "Wallace certainly appealed to the sense that the federal government was attacking the moral foundations of America. But there is one fundamental difference: Wallace, despite his racial views, never cast aspersions on other faith traditions."

'Watch him perform'

In the opinion of Jim Zeigler, Alabama's state auditor and a tea party favorite, Moore better compares to Huey Long.

The fiery Long served as Louisiana's governor from 1928-1932, and in the Senate from 1932 until he was fatally shot in 1935 in Baton Rouge by the relative of one of his political enemies.

"In the past, the freshmen senators had no power and very little influence," Zeigler said. "Senator Long was an exception to that. He developed the issues he was interested in promoting or opposing. He used the Senate to promote those things, those issues he stood for. His Senate speeches ... the media would come and cover it and the public would sit in the galleries and watch him perform. He was not manageable by the Senate leadership."

On economic issues, Long and Moore differ significantly. Long's interest in wealth redistribution compares more favorably today with Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont than it does with Moore, who pledges a strict adherent to President Donald Trump's "America First" agenda.

But Long stood against the Washington power structure as he traveled the U.S. making impassioned speeches and accusing both major parties of incompetence in dealing with the Great Depression.

He became one of the few opponents to Franklin Roosevelt's "New Deal" within the president's own Democratic Party. Long, with his own d White House ambitions, rolled out his populist-themed "Share Our Wealth" blueprint for recovery.

"He started a nationwide organization and had membership," Zeigler said. "I could see Senator Moore doing similar things on issues. Roy Moore could talk about the foundation of moral law and he could take it nationwide."

Zeigler said, "The first day that Roy Moore steps out of his airplane and onto the floor, he'll be noticed by the media and followed by people who agree with him and disagree with him. He can start immediately on making a difference."

link:

http://www.al.com/news/mobile/....html#incart_m-rpt-2

Doug Jones is the DEM candidate for the senate seat

In a recent speech, he said:

When you go outside Alabama, and you travel around the country – people say, ‘Where are you from?’ Let’s be honest – unless you’re talking about college football, there’s a little hesitancy, there’s a little hesitancy to say, ‘I’m from Alabama.’”

“That shouldn’t be,” he continued. “That should not be. We are a wonderful people. We are a loving and caring people. But we have been defined by people in our past who were haters and dividers and people who pitted one against the other. We will change that.”

http://www.breitbart.com/video...ancy-say-im-alabama/

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DEMs always take the worst events of our history and pretend that defines America

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Doug Jones is the DEM candidate for the senate seat

In a recent speech, he said:

When you go outside Alabama, and you travel around the country – people say, ‘Where are you from?’ Let’s be honest – unless you’re talking about college football, there’s a little hesitancy, there’s a little hesitancy to say, ‘I’m from Alabama.’”

“That shouldn’t be,” he continued. “That should not be. We are a wonderful people. We are a loving and caring people. But we have been defined by people in our past who were haters and dividers and people who pitted one against the other. We will change that.”

http://www.breitbart.com/video...ancy-say-im-alabama/

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DEMs always take the worst events of our history and pretend that defines America

Wow. Really? What a retard. I doubt most people from Alabama are ashamed to say they are from Alabama. I bet most are very proud of that fact. This guy is absolutely clueless.

Move to California, you idiot, if that's where you'd rather be from. Goodness. I bet you even Forrest Gump would punch this self-loather in the mouth given the chance,

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Originally posted by sdy:
Doug Jones is the DEM candidate for the senate seat

In a recent speech, he said:

When you go outside Alabama, and you travel around the country – people say, ‘Where are you from?’ Let’s be honest – unless you’re talking about college football, there’s a little hesitancy, there’s a little hesitancy to say, ‘I’m from Alabama.’”

“That shouldn’t be,” he continued. “That should not be. We are a wonderful people. We are a loving and caring people. But we have been defined by people in our past who were haters and dividers and people who pitted one against the other. We will change that.”

http://www.breitbart.com/video...ancy-say-im-alabama/

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DEMs always take the worst events of our history and pretend that defines America

Wow. Really? What a retard. I doubt most people from Alabama are ashamed to say they are from Alabama. I bet most are very proud of that fact. This guy is absolutely clueless.

Move to California, you idiot, if that's where you'd rather be from. Goodness. I bet you even Forrest Gump would punch this self-loather in the mouth given the chance,

This "hesitancy" is not a new phenomenon. I remember (1950's) when Mississippi would loan out-of-state license plates to citizens who had to travel north.

And now Moore being hit with decades old sexual abuse charges...

https://www.washingtonpost.com...m_term=.ddc73c09ce96

Sounds like a last-ditch attempt to win by the Dems.

Someone needs to air all the dirt about the accuser post haste. Bet she is a dem or someone who has/will suddenly come into a lot of money from unspecified sources.

I don't believe it.

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And now Moore being hit with decades old sexual abuse charges...

https://www.washingtonpost.com...m_term=.ddc73c09ce96

Roy Moore, tomorrow - "I have decided to live as a gay man. Leave me alone. And, vote for Moore"

alternatively, he can say "so what, it was legal at the time"


According to the Code of Alabama 1975 list of rules (Section 13A-6-69.1) it was a crime to have sex with a minor 12 or under.

In Parks v. State, 565 So. 2d 1265 (Ala. Crim. App. 1990), the Court interpreted the language of the statute, declaring that “a female 16 years of age is technically not a “child,” but is one capable of consenting to sexual intercourse.”

The legal age of consent was later raised to 16 in Alabama.

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Sounds like a last-ditch attempt to win by the Dems.

Someone needs to air all the dirt about the accuser post haste. Bet she is a dem or someone who has/will suddenly come into a lot of money from unspecified sources.

I don't believe it.

Local news says she has a history of financial troubles.

38 years ago.

now one month before the election.

give me a break. What an obvious "October" surpise from a Democrat Party that has descended into the lowest level of fabrications and wild charges.

I'm not from AL but hasn't Moore been through some pretty rough elections...you'd think this stuff would have come out then.

https://www.washingtonpost.com...m_term=.6195b13c3812

Corfman, 53, works as a customer service representative at a payday loan business

She also was concerned that her background — three divorces and a messy financial history — might undermine her credibility.

“There is no one here that doesn’t know that I’m not an angel,” Corfman says, referring to her home town of Gadsden.

While reporting a story in Alabama about supporters of Moore’s Senate campaign, a Post reporter heard that Moore allegedly had sought relationships with teenage girls. Over the ensuing three weeks, two Post reporters contacted and interviewed the four women.

how convenient. 38 years ago and in 3 weeks they find 4 women, none of whom sought out the Wash Post

BTW Wash Post endorsed Moore’s Democratic opponent Doug Jones in the Senate race.

After the better part of what? 40 years this surfaces. Yeah right, especially considering all the enemies Moore has had politically over the years. If there was an iota of credibility to the claim it would have been proclaimed years and years ago. As is, its nothing but more bullshit / fake news. If not the libtards, it's the establishment RINOs behind this smear.

Roy Moore's full statement on teen sex encounter allegation

Updated 3:25 PM; Posted 2:07 PM

The Roy Moore campaign this afternoon released this statement in response to an article from The Washington Post claiming the U.S. Senate candidate had a sexual encounter with a 14-year-old girl in 1979 when Moore was 32.

Here is the statement:

Today, the Judge Roy Moore Campaign for U.S. Senate issued a statement responding to yet another baseless political attack by the Washington Post, a paper that has endorsed Judge Moore's opponent. Moore campaign chair Bill Armistead released the following statement on Thursday afternoon:

"Judge Roy Moore has endured the most outlandish attacks on any candidate in the modern political arena, but this story in today's Washington Post alleging sexual impropriety takes the cake. National liberal organizations know their chosen candidate Doug Jones is in a death spiral, and this is their last ditch Hail Mary.

"The Washington Post has already endorsed the Judge's opponent, and for months, they have engaged in a systematic campaign to distort the truth about the Judge's record and career and derail his campaign. In fact, just two days ago, the Foundation for Moral Law sent a retraction demand to the Post for the false stories they wrote about the Judge's work and compensation. But apparently, there is no end to what the Post will allege.

"The Judge has been married to Kayla for nearly 33 years, has 4 children, and 5 grandchildren. He has been a candidate in four hotly-contested statewide political contests, twice as a gubernatorial candidate and twice as a candidate for chief justice. He has been a three-time candidate for local office, and he has been a national figure in two ground-breaking, judicial fights over religious liberty and traditional marriage. After over 40 years of public service, if any of these allegations were true, they would have been made public long before now.

http://www.al.com/news/index.s..._statement_of_t.html

I’m sorry, but after Moore has been in the public eye for ~40 years, stood for elections in the past, now these allegations come to light for the first time, and that this is how the God Damned Commies roll, I’m not buying it, so far.

This was tried, unsuccessfully barely, with Clarence Thomas, it was tried successfully to get Barak Obama into the Senate, it was tried against Trump. It is remarkable how these allegations pop up out of the blue.

It is also remarkable how allegations against BJ persisted, multiplied, and were ignored as much as possible. These are merely the most prominent examples.

I don’t particularly like Moore, but I hate God Damned Commies, and have accumulated some experience over the years how they handle things.

This stinks.

Moore needs to find the source and let them know the consequences.