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| half-genius, half-wit |
We obviously live in different worlds, Sir. I'm still wearing clothes I bought in the year 2000. Every day. | |||
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quarter MOA visionary |
Not any more than anyone else in an executive position or really any position/job that offers benefits. We ALL work for money regardless of what the end product is. | |||
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| You're going to feel a little pressure... |
I don't actually know how the NRA functions so I don't know if LaPierre is a mastermind who is managing every aspect of NRA strategy or if he is just the face and nothing more than a glorified PR guy. I DO know that whoever is setting strategy and guiding policy needs to be the best there is, if we are going to have any gun rights left, after the next Democrat administration. The best get the best compensation. If the leader of the NRA can maintain our gun rights through a 2-term Corey Booker administration, double whatever LaPierre is getting, give them $300,000 for wardrobe, and a Lear Jet. We are all capitalists. We all want our gun rights. Find the best person for the job and make them very, very rich. Bruce "The designer of the gun had clearly not been instructed to beat about the bush. 'Make it evil,' he'd been told. 'Make it totally clear that this gun has a right end and a wrong end. Make it totally clear to anyone standing at the wrong end that things are going badly for them. If that means sticking all sort of spikes and prongs and blackened bits all over it then so be it. This is not a gun for hanging over the fireplace or sticking in the umbrella stand, it is a gun for going out and making people miserable with." -Douglas Adams “It is just as difficult and dangerous to try to free a people that wants to remain servile as it is to try to enslave a people that wants to remain free." -Niccolo Machiavelli The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends most of one's time defending scoundrels. For it is against scoundrels that oppressive laws are first aimed, and oppression must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all. -Mencken | |||
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Too clever by half |
Then if he's good at it, let him be the CEO. We know he's a lousy spokesperson, so unless the board steps up, the immediate problem is there's no one to shut him up, and have the talented types handle it. So, the blame for LaPierre is the board, IMHO. "We have a system that increasingly taxes work, and increasingly subsidizes non-work" - Milton Friedman | |||
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| Go ahead punk, make my day |
I'm sure the politicians, supporters, communities leaders you meet with on a daily basis all enjoy your sense of style and frugalness as well. Maybe ring up Wayne and let him know how it's done!  | |||
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Check the cost of real tailored suits and shirts. You don't actually expect Wayne to wear anything off the rack, do you? I too think Wayne needs to go. The country as a whole has changed significantly during his tenure (as is demonstrated by the rise of President Trump as president), and I think its time for a new spokesperson who can better talk to and reach everyday people. Wayne is a bit too arrogant and elitist for that role today. Whoever takes over the role needs to be able to connect with people in a simpler more down to earth manner. As an example, Colion Noir tends to connect with me in a way Wayne can't, even though I'm old and white. I'm not about to suggest who replaces Wayne, but I do think the time has come for that replacement. ----------------------------- Guns are awesome because they shoot solid lead freedom. Every man should have several guns. And several dogs, because a man with a cat is a woman. Kurt Schlichter | |||
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| Go ahead punk, make my day |
I mean, Wayne isn't as well known as TacFoley. TacFoley can roll into a meeting with the MPs and PM, even some of the lower level royals in shorts, dirty t-shirt with sweaty pits, and flip flips - with a weeks worth of growth and bad BO. But they don't mind.  | |||
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As far as salaries go, keep in mind these folks live and work in Northern Virginia, not exactly a low rent district. As for Lapierre, I met him a few years ago at a Vegas gunshow. He was walking around all by himself, no entourage. When I figured why he looked familiar, I went up and introduced myself. He could not have been more down to earth and gracious. He gave me his card with his phone number and e-mail. He may not come across well on TV but he hit the nail on the head, when he said the only thing that will stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. I saw him from a distance at the SHOT Show this year. Times being what they are, he now has a security detail.  | |||
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I don't particularly like Wayne Lapierre. I think his public speaking skills could be better. But when I look at results, I have to conclude that Wayne has been very effective. Things have definitely improved over the past 30 years. I am convinced, and will be renewing my NRA membership today. That said, I don't understand why the NRA doesn't have 30 million members, instead of only 5-6 million. ---------------------------------------------------- Dances with Crabgrass | |||
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Oriental Redneck |
Lifer here (NRA, GOA, SAF). I used to question the same thing. But, I finally came to realize why. Let's say there are 300 millions guns in private hands, and there are what, 80 million gun owners in the country? I'm willing to bet that most are not hardcore gun owners 2A supporters. They are like, "Ok, I can own guns, so I'll buy a gun, just in case". They are the type that really don't care for the NRA, and, at the drop of a hat, would sheepishly turn in their guns without so much of a whimper. And, then, there are so-called gun owners who think they can compromise with the commies, letting them chip away at the 2A. They most likely don't care about the NRA, either. And, there are those who think gun owning is about hunting and sport shooting. They understand nothing about why we have the RTKBA. So, they likely won't join, either. That leaves the hard core gun owners like us, which is a minority group. And, even within this group, there are those who always bitch about the NRA this and the NRA that as an excuse not to join. So, as you can see, the situation is pretty sad. The NRA is by no means perfect. Show me a perfect organization, and I'll show you an ocean front property in Nebraska for sale cheap. But, just try to imagine the USA without the NRA. Q | |||
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| Lead slingin' Parrot Head  |
100% agree...these are the same conclusions and analysis I reached years ago. I have friends and family members who own multiple guns, some who are hunters, and aren't NRA members and don't belong to any other second amendment organization either. One other category of gun owner I'd add to the list are some Christians. I know at least a couple Christians who either own or have owned guns that are so upset at the general state of affairs and political direction that they have essentially chosen to not inform themselves of current events or get involved in taking any action. They choose to spend as much time with their families as they can, read the Bible, go to church, and pray. I can certainly understand and support all these things but don't see why they preclude getting involved in supporting or opposing things you agree or disagree with, or joining an organization like the NRA. | |||
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Get Off My Lawn |
This is what a lot of gun rights advocates don't get. That the vast majority of gun owners in this country do not belong to gun forums, know every model and make of firearms, the caliber differences, nuances of state and federal gun laws, etc, etc. That most gun owners simply buy a pistol and a box of ammo to put into their socks drawer, or a shotgun and a box of shells to put into their closet. And never shoot the thing. And then you have gun enthusiasts who never bother to join the NRA or other groups at all. I knew a lot of guys like this at my former gun club in CA. "I’m not going to read Time Magazine, I’m not going to read Newsweek, I’m not going to read any of these magazines; I mean, because they have too much to lose by printing the truth"- Bob Dylan, 1965 | |||
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| Get my pies outta the oven!  |
The Prez has weighed in on this:
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| That rug really tied the room together.  |
I’m disgusted with the swamp critter. Dude HAS TO GO!! Sit their claiming his million dollar paychecks, doing practically nothing. Leadership needs a change!!! ______________________________________________________ Often times a very small man can cast a very large shadow | |||
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| Savor the limelight |
Beside DJT, nothing drives a liberal to hyperventilate more than the NRA. The organization can't be all that bad. | |||
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I think LaPierre needs to relinquish his position. He's been there long enough. His always angry personna isn't helping the cause. Beware of a man whose only pistol is a 1911, he's probably very good with it. | |||
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Drill Here, Drill Now |
I'm an Endowment level Life Member and do not like LaPierre. I'm not moving up to Patron level or giving more $$ until he is gone. We need a leader who wants to get 4x or 5x the number of current members and to accomplish more on the federal and state level. Currently, LaPierre runs it to mine the existing member's wallets (e.g. endless pleas for more money), fancy events/parties, and make meager progress at the federal and state level. Ego is the anesthesia that deadens the pain of stupidity DISCLAIMER: These are the author's own personal views and do not represent the views of the author's employer. | |||
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Chilihead and Barbeque Aficionado |
Endowment Life member here, as well. I completely agree with tatortodd. Not a fan of Wayne and would like to see him go. I would also like to see some new life on the Board and have voted accordingly. I also agree with what 12131 posted above. The NRA is not perfect....but there is a lot of room for improvement and it has to happen. _________________________ 2nd Amendment Defender The Second Amendment is not about hunting or sport shooting. | |||
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Bad dog! |
There are about 100 million individual gun owners in the US. At 5 million members, the NRA has 5%. Yes, the majority of gun owners have no interest in joining a gun-rights organization. But NRA should be able to do much better than 5%. They have the membership that needs no inspiration, no stirring up, no sales pitch. 5 million NRA members represent the hard core, those who would be staunch supporters/defenders of the Second Amendment whether NRA existed or not. We need someone who can connect with the passive 95% of gun owners-- who can stir them up, make them laugh, inform them, and generally open their eyes to the need for a strong organization like NRA. Wayne LaPierre is so not that guy. No one will ever get the whole 95%, or even most of that. There is too much apathy, too much disconnect. But, as tatortodd says, 4 or 5 times the current membership is a good goal. 25 million still leaves 70 million deadwood. But imagine the clout of an NRA with 20 or 25 million members! Is that possible? One thing is for sure: We'll never know with angry, defensive, LaPierre at the helm. No matter what fine suits he might be attired in. ______________________________________________________ "You get much farther with a kind word and a gun than with a kind word alone." | |||
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| Peace through superior firepower  |
It's not at all good for gunowners to have the NRA's in-fighting made public knowledge, and unless I'm missing something, Wayne Lapierre is the one who made all of this public. Surely, LaPierre is wealthy enough to retire, but it's apparent this is about egos. ____________________________________________________ "I am your retribution." - Donald Trump, speech at CPAC, March 4, 2023 | |||
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