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paradox in a box
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Awhile ago I posted about my company implementing diversity policy to obtain more women and people of color.

Well since I can’t stand the job I took last year (same company, different jobs over 26 years) I reached out to my old boss. Short story is he wants me back and I want to go back. He had to jump through hoops to get a job level increased to hire me back.

So now I get the call offline. He can’t hire me until he interviews a woman and a person of color. The job description is literally written for me. I suppose I can’t complain unless I eventually don’t get the job. But it’s a frustrating delay.




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Posts: 12007 | Location: Westminster, MA | Registered: November 14, 2006Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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ain't no sayin he has to hire the other applicants,but he does have to interview.


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I worked for a national financial company back in the 70's. I needed to hire a credit analyst as our growth justified it. I was told, in 1978 that I could only hire a woman or a person of color.
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It could be worse. What if they took it a step further and would only consider hiring a minority?

Yeah it’s frustrating but try to look at the positive aspect of it.


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What’s more frustrating is the delay. He needs to have applicants to interview. That could take a very long time.




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Posts: 12007 | Location: Westminster, MA | Registered: November 14, 2006Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I'd go find two people and ask them if they want to make $50 for a ~20 minute awkward conversation.
 
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Identify as pink! That would make you a person of color.


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Does wearing fishnets and stilettos make you squeamish? You could have interviewed identifying as a woman......a really hawt woman, and killed two birds with one stone. Gender etc. is fluid these days.



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Funny thing is that I’m 23% Portuguese. Portugal is part of Hispania. My great grandparents last name was Rodrigues until it was changed when they came here in 1895.

So technically I’m Hispanic. But no way to change that in my company profile now.




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Posts: 12007 | Location: Westminster, MA | Registered: November 14, 2006Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Funny thing is that I’m 23% Portuguese. Portugal is part of Hispania. My great grandparents last name was Rodrigues until it was changed when they came here in 1895.

So technically I’m Hispanic. But no way to change that in my company profile now.


Just start making people call you "Beto"



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Originally posted by frayedends:
Funny thing is that I’m 23% Portuguese. Portugal is part of Hispania. My great grandparents last name was Rodrigues until it was changed when they came here in 1895.

So technically I’m Hispanic. But no way to change that in my company profile now.


Funnily enough, that may not help anyway, if your company follows standard federal demographic classifications and their discrimination goes against anyone classified as the "White/Caucasian" race.

The standard racial classification system includes two separate questions:

"What is your race?" (Black, White, Native American, Asian or Pacific Islander)

and then

"Are you of Hispanic or Latino descent?" (Yes or No)


So even as a Hispanic, under that standard classification system you would still be considered part of the "White/Caucasian" race. It's a different ethnicity, but not a different race.

There can also be Black Hispanics (Haitian, Dominican, etc.) and Native American Hispanics (Maya, Quechua, Comanche, Yaqui, etc.).


But if they're strictly looking for a more nebulously defined "minority" or a "person of color", then you being Hispanic (regardless of race) would likely fit those categories.
 
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Funny thing is that I’m 23% Portuguese. Portugal is part of Hispania. My great grandparents last name was Rodrigues until it was changed when they came here in 1895.

So technically I’m Hispanic. But no way to change that in my company profile now.


Why not, if you can prove it, do it, the state and employers have been over run with progressive initiatives that hurt white males.

Play the game or get left behind.



 
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I'd go find two people and ask them if they want to make $50 for a ~20 minute awkward conversation.


Big Grin. I like that plan!




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Funny thing is that I’m 23% Portuguese. Portugal is part of Hispania. My great grandparents last name was Rodrigues until it was changed when they came here in 1895.

So technically I’m Hispanic. But no way to change that in my company profile now.


Funny you should bring that up.

Mrs. Flash worked for the County for over 20 years and suddenly the County said there was now such a thing as a "Double Minority". What that means is female and black or female and hispanic or whatever.

She also got told that a double minority could "bump" a single minority and they would do so, even single minorities with over 20 years seniority and she would probably be bumped.

So, since her Father is full blooded Portugese named Souza and her mother half Portugese and half Hawaiian, she went to HR and registered herself as Hispanic, thus keeping her job until she retird at 31 years of working for the County.

Unbelivable isn't it and one of the major reasons I started my own company, to escape this lunacy called "affirmative action."
 
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Soft bigotry.

Until someone, perhaps a class-action suit, can be brought to the courts, with solid evidence, such practices won't be overturned or, blunted.
 
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When I was hiring software engineers to work in my department at a large telecommunication company, my criteria were
  • Can s/he do what needs to be done, and
  • Will the personality fit with the rest of the group?
Coincidentally, the very best guy I ever hired was black. His ability was outstanding, everybody loved to work with him, and the bonus was that he was a superb classical pianist; I went to several of his recitals, and he got great reviews from the music critics.



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Originally posted by frayedends:
Funny thing is that I’m 23% Portuguese. Portugal is part of Hispania. My great grandparents last name was Rodrigues until it was changed when they came here in 1895.

So technically I’m Hispanic. But no way to change that in my company profile now.


So . . . playing the race card would be an option?

(And I get it, but I hope the irony isn't lost on you.)




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It is the way. I remember applying for a job, more out as a joke, that was so tailored, it was clearly written for a guy in uniform to transition to GS work. Thing like "must have briefed Joint Chiefs for a minimum of 13 months on specific, narrow topic. And earned a Master or higher in very specific, narrow area related to said briefing from a specific university" Only items missing was "be certain rank or higher and retire on a certain date and/or you name must be "BGEN Bob Smith". But the game is government jobs do have to be posted, and I'm sure two or three people were called just so the boxes were checked.

Hopefully your guy can work through the BS for you and you become that guy the job description is tailored for.


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Actually, that kind of discriminatory bullshit started many years ago.
 
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I endured that kind of discrimination through my entire Forest Service career. I’ve thought about writing about the many examples of blatant violations of the Civil Rights Act, but decided it’s in the past now, and it’s likely no one would care anyway. I understand in U.S. government, and many corporations, it has become increasingly difficult for white women to advance in their careers.


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