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Air Force doing PT every morning? Riiight... Big Grin

Otherwise, sounds like it was when I was in.


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It sounds a lot like the Army I joined back in 1982.

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Originally posted by PASig:
Saw this on an Air Force Reddit discussion:

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All the upcoming policy changes Secretary Hegseth announced:

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PT:

Testing Requirements:

PT tests required twice per year for all ranks, every year of service

Height and weight checks twice per year for all ranks

PT required every duty day for all service members (unit or individual)

Must be "real hard PT"

Combat arms fitness test scored above 70% at gender-neutral, age-normed male standard

New combat field test for combat arms units, executable in any environment with combat equipment

Tests will resemble Army Expert Physical Fitness Assessment or Marine Corps Combat Fitness Test

All combat MOS requirements return to highest male standard only (Reverses any standards altered since 2015)

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Proficiency Requirements:

All troops must be fully proficient on assigned weapons, platform, or task

Baseline proficiency in basic combat skills required for all service members regardless of MOS

Adopts "every Marine a rifleman" philosophy across all services

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Appearance:

Hair and Beards:

No beards allowed (exception: special forces only)

Hair standards enforced per existing regulations

Shaving profiles drastically reduced

Professional appearance standards enforced everywhere

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BMT:

Drill Instructor Authorities - drill sergeants/instructors now authorized to:

Conduct shark attacks

Toss bunks

Swear at recruits

Put hands on recruits

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Training:

Mandatory Training Reduction:

Drastic reduction in mandatory training requirements

Less PowerPoint briefings

Fewer online courses

More time in "motor pool"/range

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Standards Review: immediate review of all standards across:

Every service

Every unit

Every schoolhouse

Every form of PME

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Promotion:

Promotions based on merit only

Colorblind, gender-neutral evaluation process

Top performers promoted faster/Poor performers removed more quickly

Real evaluations (not box checks) at every level

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Personnel Records:

Changes to retention of adverse information

Minor, forgivable, or earnest infractions will not encumber careers in perpetuity

Allows for honest mistakes without permanent career impact

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Admin:

Inspector General IG Process - new policies eliminate:

No anonymous complaints

No repeat complainants

No frivolous complaints

Faster resolution

Equal Opportunity Process - same restrictions as IG:

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Toxic Leadership Definitions:

Full review of definitions of toxic leadership, bullying, and hazing

Purpose: Empower leaders to enforce standards without fear of retribution

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Social Media:

Unit-Level Social Media - ban on anonymous unit-level social media pages that:

Trash commanders

Demoralize troops

Undermine unit cohesion Service Social Media Policies:

New proactive social media policies across all services

Anonymous online/keyboard complaining not tolerated

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DEI:

Zero identity months

Zero DEI offices

Zero climate change/green fleet initiatives

Zero gender ideology accommodations ("dudes in dresses")

All described as "debris" that has been removed

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ROEs:

Combat Authorities:

Remove politically correct and overbearing ROE

Maximum lethality authorized

Increased authority for warfighters

Untie hands of warfighters to "intimidate, demoralize, hunt, and kill"

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His ethos for rule changes:

The 1990 Test: Compare current standards to 1990 standards (when we won Gulf War fast); justify any changes

The E6/O3 Test: Does the change make leadership easier or more complicated for staff sergeants, petty officers, and tech sergeants?

The Golden Rule Test: Would you want your own child serving in this unit under these standards?


Damn...this guy is NOT screwing around! Eek


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Trump to Military Leaders: 'I Have Your Backs 100 Percent'

President Donald Trump told a gathering of military leaders called together by War Secretary Pete Hegseth in Virginia on Tuesday that his support for them would never waver, pledging to strengthen U.S. forces and deter nuclear threats from adversaries.

"My message to you is very simple," Trump said. "I am with you, I support you. And as president, I have your backs 100%. You'll never see me even waver a little bit. That's the way it is.

"And that includes our great police officers and firemen and all of these people that are doing so well together."

Trump vowed to build up the armed forces in the years ahead.

"We're going to make our military stronger, tougher, faster, fiercer, and more powerful than it has ever been before," he said, pointing to upgrades to the nuclear arsenal. "We have to hope we never have to use it, because the power of that is so incredible. … When you see the result of what's left, you never want to use that. Never, never, ever."

The president said U.S. submarines remain the most advanced in the world, claiming the nation is "25 years ahead of Russia and China" in stealth technology.

He described moving nuclear-armed submarines closer to Russia after hearing references to nuclear weapons from Moscow.

"I moved a submarine or two over to the coast of Russia, just to be careful, because we can't let people throw around that word. I call it the 'N' word," Trump said.

Trump added that "everybody wants to be in the Army, the Navy, the Air Force, the Marines … the Coast Guard and Space Force," noting that all branches are meeting or exceeding recruitment targets.

He contrasted this moment with two years ago, when reports highlighted shortages across the services. According to Trump, the turnaround means the military can now be more selective, applying higher standards based on merit.

He singled out Maj. Gen. John Daniel "Dan" Caine, known by his call sign "Razin," for eliminating the ISIS caliphate in four weeks — a campaign military officials had once said could take years. Trump credited Caine with "knocking out 100% of the ISIS caliphate" and said the operation exemplified the renewed fighting spirit of the armed forces.

In the Western Hemisphere, Trump highlighted his decision to designate cartels as terrorist organizations, saying it gave U.S. forces new tools to target traffickers and deter maritime smuggling.

He also said NATO members, spurred by Russia's invasion of Ukraine, have increased defense spending commitments from 2% to 5% of GDP.

"We're now selling large quantities of American-made weapons to NATO, and we're getting really fair pricing," Trump said, calling the arrangement a way to strengthen alliances while ensuring the U.S. defense industry stays strong.

He said upcoming reforms will speed up foreign military sales and address production bottlenecks for fighter jets, ships, and ammunition.

Trump stressed that America's global posture is about deterrence.

"We have the strongest military anywhere in the world," he said, adding that U.S. missile defenses and advanced weapons are unmatched.

He described the armed forces as heirs to a legacy stretching from Washington and Jackson to Eisenhower and Patton, and said their spirit — not just resources — ensures America's edge.

"With leaders like we have right here in this beautiful room today," Trump told the gathering, "we will vanquish every danger and crush every threat to our freedom in every generation to come. Because we will fight, fight, fight and we will win, win, win."




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I suspect there’s a different process - but when they say the “end of all anonymous complaints,” Is there is still a process for filing anonymous tips on corruption, etc?
 
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I listened to all 48 minutes of SecWar Pete Hegseth’s speech from Quantico. i was blown away, by it. The words he spoke, his delivery, his demeanor. All of it.


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This is a tiny piece of the puzzle but I’m curious. When I went to the boat school there were 2 distinct physical readiness tests with 2 different scoring charts. Men did this women did that. Besides women’s times and numbers being substantially slower and lower to get the same scores there was the pull ups. Women didn’t do them because honestly most women can’t. I know, I know, plenty of women can but they are the outliers and they certainly weren’t doing the max that lots of us were doing on the men side.

So, does all that change and women routinely get substandard scores or if they can’t do pull-ups (I think 5 was the minimum) they don’t get through? Hmm. Curious.

I thought the speech was phenomenal. Overdue and necessary. Great job.
 
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I'm going to have to watch this speech. So far, I like what I'm hearing.


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All the fake "Vikings" and other people running around looking like vagrants and shitbags who got to have beards are in for a big shock, LMAO

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Originally posted by pedropcola:
This is a tiny piece of the puzzle but I’m curious. When I went to the boat school there were 2 distinct physical readiness tests with 2 different scoring charts. Men did this women did that. Besides women’s times and numbers being substantially slower and lower to get the same scores there was the pull ups. Women didn’t do them because honestly most women can’t. I know, I know, plenty of women can but they are the outliers and they certainly weren’t doing the max that lots of us were doing on the men side.

So, does all that change and women routinely get substandard scores or if they can’t do pull-ups (I think 5 was the minimum) they don’t get through? Hmm. Curious.

I thought the speech was phenomenal. Overdue and necessary. Great job.


I thought this only applied to females in combat arms jobs like they went crazy with over the past 20 or so years.


 
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Did you listen to the speech? He said gender neutral, male level, twice a year, mandatory. How do any of those words result in a two tiered system of male and female? Everyone entering a service academy is potentially combat arms regardless of what you define that as. It sounds like you think that speech applied to infantry and everyone else would remain status quo.

I definitely could be wrong but I think this signals a seismic shift towards ONE standard for all jobs. A mandatory standard at that.
 
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I suspect there’s a different process - but when they say the “end of all anonymous complaints,” Is there is still a process for filing anonymous tips on corruption, etc?


The "anonymous complaints" was for IG claims unrelated to Waste, Fraud, and Abuse (WFA) and EEO claims, not general corruption.

The WFA Hotlines and the DoD Component Inspector Generals are still there to receive reports of WFA, and if necessary, to provide whistleblower status to the person reporting (which gets the individual a degree of anonymity).





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The "anonymous complaints" was for IG claims unrelated to Waste, Fraud, and Abuse (WFA) and EEO claims, not general corruption.



There seemed to be a lot of male military members getting jammed up really bad due to this kind of thing. Like PFC Jane would go partying and drinking with PFC Joe and he would rebuff her and then PFC Jane files an anonymous sexual harassment or assault charge against PFC Joe in revenge.


 
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Originally posted by pedropcola:
Did you listen to the speech? He said gender neutral, male level, twice a year, mandatory. How do any of those words result in a two tiered system of male and female? Everyone entering a service academy is potentially combat arms regardless of what you define that as. It sounds like you think that speech applied to infantry and everyone else would remain status quo.

I definitely could be wrong but I think this signals a seismic shift towards ONE standard for all jobs. A mandatory standard at that.


Combat Arms MOS in the Army is Infantry, Rangers, Armor etc

That's what he's referring to. Not sure how the AF or Navy is going to classify their AFSC/Rates as to what is "combat arms" and what isn't. Maybe it already is.

During his speech, Hegseth announced a new requirement for combat arms units: That they “execute their service test at a gender-neutral, age-normed male standard scored above 70%.”


 
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Anonymous or not, the sexual harassment charge was the most frequently abused accusation I saw on a regular basis. Npthing else even came close.

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Originally posted by PASig:
There seemed to be a lot of male military members getting jammed up really bad due to this kind of thing. Like PFC Jane would go partying and drinking with PFC Joe and he would rebuff her and then PFC Jane files an anonymous sexual harassment or assault charge against PFC Joe in revenge.


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Originally posted by TMats:
I listened to all 48 minutes of SecWar Pete Hegseth’s speech from Quantico. i was blown away, by it. The words he spoke, his delivery, his demeanor. All of it.



I totally agree. He gave a top notch presentation of long overdue changes.
 
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As a retired field grade Air Force officer, this was long overdue after the decades of DEI BS, which seemed to have started in the 1990s. Definitely need to return to a "war fighter" mindset.
 
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There won't be any doubt in what the mission is now. It will make clearing house much easier.


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Sounds more like the military I remember. On a sub the only hand to hand combat we expected was maybe over the last box of captain crunch but we still had to meet physical and presentation standards. Besides that our Captain (not the crunch) wanted a tight crew so he had a tight crew.
 
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this was long overdue after the decades of DEI BS, which seemed to have started in the 1990s.

The racial garbage was around in the 80s. Blacks getting promoted over vastly more qualified whites just because they were black, bullshit accusations of racism, etc.... It's been around awhile.


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Originally posted by uvahawk:
this was long overdue after the decades of DEI BS, which seemed to have started in the 1990s.

The racial garbage was around in the 80s. Blacks getting promoted over vastly more qualified whites just because they were black, bullshit accusations of racism, etc.... It's been around awhile.



Witnessed it personally, early 80's, and one of the reasons I did not reenlist. Had a black NCO tell me after a promotion board that everyone deserved a chance. I guess college educated, fluent multi lingual, top 99 percent scores on ASVAB, PT tests, etc... was just not good enough to get promoted.
 
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tell me after a promotion board that everyone deserved a chance.


My flat reply to this has always been and always will be, "No, they don't."


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