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I think this is relevant.



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Maybe they figured out all the ones that cheated their way thru their respective academies. Based on all the recent reports on cheating they should be able to get rid of half of them.
 
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How many millions have been spent on small arms trials that go no where? How many officers have pushed this type of unnecessary pork?


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^^^
Time and time again.
 
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It's a Face to Face meeting.

SecWar want's to see yer War Face...



And the President may speak to the gathering as well.

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How many millions have been spent on small arms trials that go no where? How many officers have pushed this type of unnecessary pork?


I hear you and mostly agree. In my 23 years I've saw so many new things get fielded only to fail or get tossed to the wayside (i.e. Blue Force Tracker, wacky optics and countless HMMV add-ons...) Then in the same breath, half of the enlisted could not attend required training for lack of funds.
 
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Originally posted by tatortodd:
Hegseth's stated goal is fundamental transformation to leaner, more lethal force so I have not been posting with the assumption normal process would be followed.

I've been involved in fundamental transformations 3 times in Corp America and normal process was set aside for two to three years.


I’m of the school that oftentimes, you don’t need to reinvent the wheel. The normal process, albeit accelerated, can accomplish this fundamental transformation.

What is the process you see that will accomplish this goal? I hope we’ve already dismissed the idea that it’s Hegseth who’s going to make the list of who’s naughty or nice. So, please, I am interested in understanding how you see the process because I am interested in understanding how people think through processes. What will be the process if not the “normal” way?



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1st and 3rd fundamental transformations I went through:
  • 1990s - computers had eliminated the need for enormous organizations, but us and our competitors all still had sky scrapers (aka regional offices) full of people in Houston, DFW, New Orleans, Tulsa, Midland, etc. Hub and spoke model for field offices to regional offices to headquarters which meant many layers of management and bloat. Pretty good parallel to the military's base situation, and bloat of 1-stars and above. CEO (good parallel to Hegseth) brought in an outside consultant and mgmt committee (good parallel to Hegseth plus chiefs of staff) aligned with consultant on what the transformed organization looked like. They assigned a senior executive (good parallel to 3 star or 4 star) to be the hatchet woman and built out her team. The reorg team rolled out their vision in one large meeting of executives (e.g. potential parallel to Hegseth's upcoming meeting). One on one interviews with the executive ranks (good parallel to 1-stars and above) and people who pushed back were gone same day. Now, they were down to their loyal executives to implement and this group created the new ranking criteria for retaining middle management and staff as well as empowering them to actually make decisions (i.e. way to much time spent doing business with ourselves). The hatchet woman and her team were never far away as the loyal executives rolled this out to staff and management. They even embedded executives in small field offices for a year to see how they actually ran. Eventually, every employee was called in a room and told if they had a job. My division went from 1200 people to 225 people which mainly consisted of getting rid of regional offices between the oilfield and headquarters as well as empowering the oilfield to make more decisions and communicate higher into headquarters. Additionally, organization laser focused at all levels on decisions/projects making money and drastically reducing doing business with ourselves (e.g. told to stop producing monthly report and see if anyone noticed and if anyone did notice did it matter). This took about 3-years and new normal established afterward and never went back to old promotions and retention process.
  • COVID - oil became temporarily worthless as consumption went to nearly zero and we lost billions. Within 4 months of shutdown we had an 4x normal reduction in workforce and within 9 months of shutdown an additional 6x normal reduction in workforce (i.e. combined 10x normal reduction in workforce). They used the standard process for 4 month trimming, but the 9 month trimming involved an outside consultant and mgmt committee (i.e. still parallel to Hegseth and joint chiefs) identifying criteria for retention and which capital project to continue/delay/stop. They chose executives (i.e good parallel to 1-stars and above) who were not retirement eligible to screen management and staff on new criteria with consultant, and executives who were retirement eligible were given uncomfortable choice of retiring now and saving 1-job for someone with a career left or they could stay until their planned retirement date and a pretty good person would be let go during a period with very high oil & gas unemployement. Additionally, they whacked as much as 60% of staff on delayed/stopped projects and in some instances they whacked 60% of technical disciplines no longer deemed "foundational" for the future. In hindsight, 95% let go in first batch we all said "finally, what took so long?" and 95% of the people let go in the 2nd batch likely would've worked there until retirement in normal situation. Went back to the old way of doing promotions/layoffs in '21, and once again organization laser focused at all levels on decisions/projects making money. A couple medium reorgs since then focused on better engaging the market, but no corresponding layoffs.

    It really depends on the speed Hegseth wants:
  • He could do the 9-month and be back to normal processes the following year knowing it won't be perfect but it'll be good enough and can make tweaks after a little run time. Major downsides were lots of turmoil that year and long-term erosion of morale.
  • He could do the 3 year and at the end of Trump's term have the military in great shape per his vision. Pros: actually cut more people compared to 9 month but left with better morale and more enjoyable place to work due to less BS; Cons: order of magnitude increase in individual responsibility so the small percentage of unethical who slipped through the cracks could really run amuck due to less checks and balances. Likely choosing this path would depend on Trump's confidence of Vance becoming next President and continuing on this path with military.
  • He could do a blend which would allow something faster than 3 years, but not as aggressive as 9-months.



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    I just picture some 1 star tranny staring into their closet getting ready to pack, wondering if they should go pants or skirt to this deal.


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    tatortodd I made Grok AI do the heavy lifting for both of us. Here is what it found:

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    Pete Hegseth, as Secretary of Defense, outlined his plan to reduce the number of four-star generals and admirals by at least 20% in a May 2025 memo titled "General/Flag Officer Reductions," which he informally calls the "Less Generals, More GIs" policy. The goal is to shift resources from bloated headquarters to frontline warfighters, maximize strategic readiness, and improve operational effectiveness by eliminating redundant force structures and bureaucratic layers, without intending it as a punitive measure against officers. He highlighted the need for this by comparing historical ratios: during World War II, 17 four-star officers oversaw 12 million troops (about 1:6,000), while today, around 44 four-star officers oversee roughly 2.1 million service members (about 1:1,400).

    The reduction is to be implemented through a two-phase, deliberative process in collaboration with the Joint Chiefs of Staff:

    Phase 1: Review the current structure of the military services to identify and eliminate excess general and flag officer positions. This will result in a minimum 20% cut to four-star officers in the active-duty force, a 20% reduction in general officers within the Army and Air National Guard, and a broader 10% cut to all general and flag officers (one-star and above) across the military. This involves sweeping consolidations of top military commands, merging or closing headquarters, and potentially slashing up to 1,000 Pentagon staff positions.

    Phase 2: Conduct a strategic review and realignment of the Unified Command Plan—the framework for combat commands, training, geographic responsibilities, and missions—which Hegseth described as the most comprehensive since the Goldwater-Nichols Act of 1986. This phase is expected to yield an additional minimum 10% reduction in overall general and flag officers across the Department of Defense.

    The process is to be carried out "carefully but expeditiously" to address evolving threats, with no specific public timeline provided beyond the initial May directive. Since the number of general officer positions is set by Congress under Title 10 of the U.S. Code, implementation may require legislative coordination, though congressional staff were given only brief notice of the plan. In practice, Hegseth has already fired more than a dozen senior leaders without detailed public explanation, including disproportionate numbers of female officers, as part of broader Pentagon reshaping. A September 2025 meeting at Quantico, Virginia, summoning hundreds of generals and admirals, appears tied to advancing these cuts by emphasizing alignment with Hegseth's vision of a "warrior ethos," new fitness standards, and the rebranded "Department of War," potentially signaling firings or demotions for non-compliance. Some speculate this could involve offering early retirements to affected officers.

    Structural Focus of the Reduction

    The plan, outlined in Hegseth's May 2025 memo, emphasizes reorganizing the military to cut bureaucracy and redirect resources to frontline troops. This includes:

    Position Elimination: Identifying and removing excess general/flag officer roles through consolidations and closures of headquarters, potentially affecting up to 100 positions overall.

    No Punitive Intent Stated: The memo describes the cuts as non-punitive, aimed at efficiency rather than targeting underperformers based on evaluations.

    Legislative Aspect: Since general officer numbers are capped by Congress (Title 10 U.S. Code), reductions may involve not filling vacancies or seeking statutory changes, rather than using individual reports to justify removals.

    Hegseth has already removed over a dozen senior officers (including notable figures like Gen. Charles Q. Brown Jr. and Adm. Lisa Franchetti) without public explanation of criteria, which some speculate relates to ideological alignment rather than formal fitness reports.

    Alignment with "Warrior Ethos": The September 30, 2025, Quantico meeting (involving hundreds of generals/admirals) is set to emphasize Hegseth's vision, including new physical fitness and grooming standards. Fitness reports often include sections on physical readiness and professional conduct; non-compliance with updated standards could negatively impact future reports, leading to indirect reductions via demotion, reassignment, or separation. Implicit with the Quantico directive: All senior officers will self-assess alignment with the new ethos, fitness reports must reflect combat readiness, not just paper credentials.

    Shift from In-Person Assessments: Hegseth canceled the Army's Command Assessment Program (CAP) in September 2025, which included physical fitness tests and evaluations for commander selections, reverting to paper-based reviews that rely heavily on fitness reports and personnel files. This could amplify the role of traditional fitness reports in deciding officer fates during reductions.


    USNI News: SECDEF Hegseth ‘Less Generals, More G.I.s’ Memo Calls for 20% Reduction of Four-Star Officers

    X Video of Hegseth explaining "Less Generals, More GIs policy"

    The Guardian: US military brass brace for firings

    The FITREPs or Fitness Reports are what I've been referencing how every officer is tracked for fitness to moving up or moving out.

    The mechanism for the reduction is by Phase 1 and Phase 2 as described above. When you reduce the number of musical chairs available, that's automatically going to make people leave the floor.



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    I'm sure there will be all sorts of bitching and moaning from the usual suspects, but based on that summary above, I like it.
     
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    There’s a few 2 and 3 stars that are freaking out. Especially the ones that have never had a command above a platoon/flight.


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    For Army officers I don't think this is even possible. I can't speak for the other services.

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    There’s a few 2 and 3 stars that are freaking out. Especially the ones that have never had a command above a platoon/flight.


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    Yeah, 2 and 3 stars don't command platoons, companies, or even brigades.


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    ^^^^^
    I believe what is being meant is that the last time that a 2- or 3- Star held any command position was as a platoon lieutenant; since then, they’ve been “staff weenies” who got promoted for saying/doing the “politically correct” thing. It is those who are going to be culled.


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    There’s a few 2 and 3 stars that are freaking out. Especially the ones that have never had a command above a platoon/flight.

    Sadly there's a lot of joint and NATO billets where the positions are elevated beyond a reasonable rank in order to hold more prestige or, make sure nobody is out-ranking each other, ultimately leading to the bloat that we see. Lots of deputies and elevated program manager positions at the two-star level.
    Below is a listing of those three-star positions
    List of active duty United States three-star officers

    While I'd like to see a reduction in FOGO's, I'm sticking to my earlier position that this gathering is more about Hegseth telling everyone the expectations for carrying a flag rank, reminding them to stow their political leanings and start leading by example.
     
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    Yeah, I was pretty impressed with the speech. You can bet there were a bunch of people in that room squirming in their seats.


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    Saw this on an Air Force Reddit discussion:

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    All the upcoming policy changes Secretary Hegseth announced:

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    PT:

    Testing Requirements:

    PT tests required twice per year for all ranks, every year of service

    Height and weight checks twice per year for all ranks

    PT required every duty day for all service members (unit or individual)

    Must be "real hard PT"

    Combat arms fitness test scored above 70% at gender-neutral, age-normed male standard

    New combat field test for combat arms units, executable in any environment with combat equipment

    Tests will resemble Army Expert Physical Fitness Assessment or Marine Corps Combat Fitness Test

    All combat MOS requirements return to highest male standard only (Reverses any standards altered since 2015)

    .

    Proficiency Requirements:

    All troops must be fully proficient on assigned weapons, platform, or task

    Baseline proficiency in basic combat skills required for all service members regardless of MOS

    Adopts "every Marine a rifleman" philosophy across all services

    .

    Appearance:

    Hair and Beards:

    No beards allowed (exception: special forces only)

    Hair standards enforced per existing regulations

    Shaving profiles drastically reduced

    Professional appearance standards enforced everywhere

    .

    BMT:

    Drill Instructor Authorities - drill sergeants/instructors now authorized to:

    Conduct shark attacks

    Toss bunks

    Swear at recruits

    Put hands on recruits

    .

    Training:

    Mandatory Training Reduction:

    Drastic reduction in mandatory training requirements

    Less PowerPoint briefings

    Fewer online courses

    More time in "motor pool"/range

    .

    Standards Review: immediate review of all standards across:

    Every service

    Every unit

    Every schoolhouse

    Every form of PME

    .

    Promotion:

    Promotions based on merit only

    Colorblind, gender-neutral evaluation process

    Top performers promoted faster/Poor performers removed more quickly

    Real evaluations (not box checks) at every level

    .

    Personnel Records:

    Changes to retention of adverse information

    Minor, forgivable, or earnest infractions will not encumber careers in perpetuity

    Allows for honest mistakes without permanent career impact

    .

    Admin:

    Inspector General IG Process - new policies eliminate:

    No anonymous complaints

    No repeat complainants

    No frivolous complaints

    Faster resolution

    Equal Opportunity Process - same restrictions as IG:

    .

    Toxic Leadership Definitions:

    Full review of definitions of toxic leadership, bullying, and hazing

    Purpose: Empower leaders to enforce standards without fear of retribution

    .

    Social Media:

    Unit-Level Social Media - ban on anonymous unit-level social media pages that:

    Trash commanders

    Demoralize troops

    Undermine unit cohesion Service Social Media Policies:

    New proactive social media policies across all services

    Anonymous online/keyboard complaining not tolerated

    .

    DEI:

    Zero identity months

    Zero DEI offices

    Zero climate change/green fleet initiatives

    Zero gender ideology accommodations ("dudes in dresses")

    All described as "debris" that has been removed

    .

    ROEs:

    Combat Authorities:

    Remove politically correct and overbearing ROE

    Maximum lethality authorized

    Increased authority for warfighters

    Untie hands of warfighters to "intimidate, demoralize, hunt, and kill"

    .

    His ethos for rule changes:

    The 1990 Test: Compare current standards to 1990 standards (when we won Gulf War fast); justify any changes

    The E6/O3 Test: Does the change make leadership easier or more complicated for staff sergeants, petty officers, and tech sergeants?

    The Golden Rule Test: Would you want your own child serving in this unit under these standards?


    Damn...this guy is NOT screwing around! Eek


     
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