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| We gonna get some oojima in this house!  |
What I find odd is that off base deputies came on base and shot him(both deputies were shot and are recovering). Where were the MPs? Are there even MPs or did the contract out security? Every time I’ve gone on to Pensacola NAS there have been some nasty security types at the gates. Are they only at the gates? BTW if you want to get shot, do something stupid in Escambia County. They will shoot your ass. Even when they assist In Neighboring Santa Rosa County they usually are the ones taking someone out. I don’t mean they shoot frivolously, but they will pop your ass if you need it. ----------------------------------------------------------- TCB all the time... | |||
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Why? We put all kinds of restrictions on non-citizens, why not this? Beginning to wonder if there's any real benefit to being a citizen over an alien, whether they're here legally or not. ----------------------------- Guns are awesome because they shoot solid lead freedom. Every man should have several guns. And several dogs, because a man with a cat is a woman. Kurt Schlichter | |||
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Not when it has to do with the Bill of Rights. ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan | |||
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Perhaps we should rethink that. ----------------------------- Guns are awesome because they shoot solid lead freedom. Every man should have several guns. And several dogs, because a man with a cat is a woman. Kurt Schlichter | |||
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I spent some time in Iran (1969-1971) and most of the IIAF troops I met were very lax about "safety rules"--they really believe that everything that happens is "Allah's will" and there is nothing they can do to prevent it, so they don't try. flashguy Texan by choice, not accident of birth | |||
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The King or the President? Q | |||
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I spent some time in Iran (1969-1971) and most of the IIAF troops I met were very lax about "safety rules"--they really believe that everything that happens is "Allah's will" and there is nothing they can do to prevent it, so they don't try. flashguy[/QUOTE] Exactly ... We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid." ~ Benjamin Franklin. "If anyone in this country doesn't minimise their tax, they want their head read, because as a government, you are not spending it that well, that we should be donating extra...: Kerry Packer SIGForum: the island of reality in an ocean of diarrhoea. | |||
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Foreign military students are admitted on A2 visas (foreign official, official business, no diplomatic immunity) their admission status is based on their orders. Like any other non immigrant here legally, they could legally buy and possess a firearm as long as they also possessed a valid U.S. Hunting License. However, keeping one on base is another matter and AFAIK, Foreign military students in U.S. military programs are not normally allowed to live off base. Illegal aliens, whether those who entered illegally or those who overstay or otherwise violate their visas, may not purchase or possess firearms or ammunition. It’s a felony under 18 USC 922g. | |||
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The King obviously. Saudis angry... doesn't reflect people... love Americans. Jesse Sic Semper Tyrannis | |||
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| Tinker Sailor Soldier Pie |
Well, we either believe in the tenets of the Constitution or we don't. ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan | |||
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| Go ahead punk, make my day |
Obviously the weapon was on base illegally. We didn't hangout with the Saudis but I recall many of the foreign students living in town / off base. Navy single base housing sucks balls and I can't imagine living there for 2-3 years. And all of the students are officers, so maybe that makes a difference. | |||
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'We' do, 'they' do not, unless it provides the means to do what happened today. They're not citizens of this country and as such should not enjoy all the constitutional rights citizens of this country enjoy. That's my personal opinion and I'm sticking by it. ----------------------------- Guns are awesome because they shoot solid lead freedom. Every man should have several guns. And several dogs, because a man with a cat is a woman. Kurt Schlichter | |||
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We had all kinds of foreign students when I was in the CG, we taught them ship driving, ship engineering, all kinds of things to run their coast guards in their home countries...and I always thought they were shady....they were never tested or graded, they were always given a “go” And many of them hated America, and were easily offended about nothing. I once saw an African guy pull a knife on an instructor for calling the guy out for not paying attention in class... We should end the practice of inviting foreigners to our service schools. "Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor.” Robert A. Heinlein “You may beat me, but you will never win.” sigmonkey-2020 “A single round of buckshot to the torso almost always results in an immediate change of behavior.” Chris Baker | |||
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If they need training, perhaps we should send a few instructors to their country and let them practice with THEIR aircraft. flashguy Texan by choice, not accident of birth | |||
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| Tinker Sailor Soldier Pie |
I can appreciate that point of view and understand it, but I happen to adamantly disagree with it. There's a reason why the word "citizen" is not mentioned in the Bill of Rights. That was not an accident. But anyway, that is likely a discussion for another thread. ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan | |||
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I personally do NOT think for one minute the Saudis “...love the American people”. Sorry. Just don’t buy it. I think they’re just good at “playing nice”. ‘Nuff said... Hoping for a speedy and complete recovery for the injured. "If you’re a leader, you lead the way. Not just on the easy ones; you take the tough ones too…” – MAJ Richard D. Winters (1918-2011), E Company, 2nd Battalion, 506th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne "Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil... Therefore, as tongues of fire lick up straw and as dry grass sinks down in the flames, so their roots will decay and their flowers blow away like dust; for they have rejected the law of the Lord Almighty and spurned the word of the Holy One of Israel." - Isaiah 5:20,24 | |||
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Aren't there any enlisted students, getting trained for aircraft maintenance? הרחפת שלי מלאה בצלופחים | |||
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| Go ahead punk, make my day |
I was referring to the pilots / flight officers going through Schools Command in Pensacola living in town (off base) being officers. I never saw foreign enlisted down in Pensacola, so I don't know if we train them there or somewhere else - or if they get trained by the aircraft provider (Boeing, LM, etc) or if they training is done in country instead. | |||
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| We gonna get some oojima in this house! |
Six more Saudis detained. 6 more saudis detained here in town. ----------------------------------------------------------- TCB all the time... | |||
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