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In a warzone.... I get it. It imparts a level of psychological warfare, especially early one when it was adopted by some pretty scary door kickers. I am all about putting the fear of God....err Allah in the enemy.

That being said I won't call you a damn idiot to put this stuff on your own personal weapons, especially the ones used for SD in any way but I would at the very least ask you to rethink your decisions. But hey you pays your monies you do what you want.

In the civilian world aligning yourself with a gun toting, mass murdering, vigilante is probably misguided at best. (I love the Punisher character by the way)


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Posts: 8081 | Location: On the water | Registered: July 25, 2002Report This Post
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First off you guys are way off base. “Earn” a punisher logo? WTF. It’s a comic book. Some military units appropriated it for their use and I got no problem with that. But you guys are conflating a comic book logo with stolen valor. That is a bullshit argument with zero merit.

ZERO.

Now if you want to say you hate the logo, knock yourself out. My kid loves the punisher logo, so what? He’s a kid who loves the comics and the Netflix show should I start calling him a poser?

You guys need to relax. Disclaimer, I don’t have the Punisher logo but the Netflix show isn’t bad.
 
Posts: 7541 | Location: Florida | Registered: June 18, 2005Report This Post
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I have a Punisher t-shirt the kids gave me for Christmas. I don’t walk around all steely eyed looking for wrongs to right, hoods to paste, or even troll for active shooters at Walmart.

It’s a logo. It doesn’t mean someone is in a certain “way of life”. Calm the hell down.




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Originally posted by arcwelder76:
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Originally posted by Sig209:
it's a sheepdog thing

you wouldn't understand.


What is the purpose of this comment?

I think you'll find people capable of understanding lots of things.

Come down off your high horse and explain, or keep your comments to yourself.


I coul be wrong but I think there was some sarcasm in his post. That's how I took it anyway.


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Originally posted by AllenInWV:
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Originally posted by arcwelder76:
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Originally posted by Sig209:
it's a sheepdog thing

you wouldn't understand.


What is the purpose of this comment?

I think you'll find people capable of understanding lots of things.

Come down off your high horse and explain, or keep your comments to yourself.


I coul be wrong but I think there was some sarcasm in his post. That's how I took it anyway.


Perhaps the member should clarify.

Folks should keep in mind that this is text. If they are attempting sarcasm, I recommend using one of these: Wink

Otherwise, it leaves the text to be taken seriously.


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Posts: 27140 | Location: On fire, off the shoulder of Orion | Registered: June 09, 2004Report This Post
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Originally posted by AllenInWV:
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Originally posted by arcwelder76:
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Originally posted by Sig209:
it's a sheepdog thing

you wouldn't understand.


What is the purpose of this comment?

I think you'll find people capable of understanding lots of things.

Come down off your high horse and explain, or keep your comments to yourself.


I coul be wrong but I think there was some sarcasm in his post. That's how I took it anyway.


yes

massive sarcasm


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Posts: 8940 | Location: Florida | Registered: September 20, 2004Report This Post
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I have been a fan of the Punisher comics since the 80s. Had many of them, sold most of them off, I do have a few of the hardback ones still. Heck, I even had a Punisher poster too.

I bought a Velcro patch with the Punisher logo over the Thin Blue Line Flag some time ago, its on my messenger bag.


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Posts: 1940 | Location: Collier Twp, PA | Registered: June 08, 2004Report This Post
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A number of combat units adopted it as a 'team logo' while downrange, from basic patches to obnoxiously large sized sprayed onto body armor by one of the SEAL task units. Its a morale thing, some units took it beyond reasonable, photos got back to the states and slowly but surely, the general populace picked up on it. Now you're more likely to find it on a did-nothing wanna-be: lifted-truck, beard and tattoos accompanying.


I don't wear punisher t-shirts, nor do I have a punisher decal on my truck (not lifted), and I do have a beard and tattoos. I am a Navy vet; they kind of go hand in hand. You're throwing a broad net out there. And I do like the (now canceled) Punisher series on Netflix. Just my $.02.

All that said, I agree there's probably a bunch of wannabe bad asses out there sporting the logo, but to each his own as long as they keep to themselves.

I wouldn't look too deeply into the above as it was a broad-stroke generalization that I think a fair number of members here have recognized lately. The issue most have is that tough guy idiot who adorns/decorates his possessions with the logo, thinking he's billy-bad-ass with zero bonafides. No issue with the comic character, I've got the first 20 issues of War Journal.
 
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Did Marvel create it? Many years ago I saw that skull on a website for "Wicked Grips." At the time-- maybe 20 years ago?-- they made high-end pistol grips-- exotic woods and other materials-- especially for 1911s. I had the impression that they created the design. Interesting if they got it from Marvell.

As a couple of posters have said, it's foolish to have that kind of thing on any weapon you might use for self-defense, or on a tee shirt you might happen to have on.


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It's how you know they're a real oper8or


Threepdogs.

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Originally posted by Les007:
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Originally posted by corsair:
A number of combat units adopted it as a 'team logo' while downrange, from basic patches to obnoxiously large sized sprayed onto body armor by one of the SEAL task units. Its a morale thing, some units took it beyond reasonable, photos got back to the states and slowly but surely, the general populace picked up on it. Now you're more likely to find it on a did-nothing wanna-be: lifted-truck, beard and tattoos accompanying.


I don't wear punisher t-shirts, nor do I have a punisher decal on my truck (not lifted), and I do have a beard and tattoos. I am a Navy vet; they kind of go hand in hand. You're throwing a broad net out there. And I do like the (now canceled) Punisher series on Netflix. Just my $.02.

All that said, I agree there's probably a bunch of wannabe bad asses out there sporting the logo, but to each his own as long as they keep to themselves.

I wouldn't look too deeply into the above as it was a broad-stroke generalization that I think a fair number of members here have recognized lately. The issue most have is that tough guy idiot who adorns/decorates his possessions with the logo, thinking he's billy-bad-ass with zero bonafides. No issue with the comic character, I've got the first 20 issues of War Journal.


That. It's becoming the new 5.11 pants and combat boots at the mall. Bonus points if actually worn with 5.11 pants and combat boots. At the mall.

Which sucks, because I like the show, and the character. That said, I don't want some overzealous DA trying to sell a jury on the idea that I was trying to emulate that particular character.


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Did Marvel create it? Many years ago I saw that skull on a website for "Wicked Grips." At the time-- maybe 20 years ago?-- they made high-end pistol grips-- exotic woods and other materials-- especially for 1911s. I had the impression that they created the design. Interesting if they got it from Marvell.



The Punisher (complete with skull motif) first appeared in The Amazing Spider-Man in early 1974. So I'd guess they could have gotten the idea way back when.


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I have a Craft International hat with their logo, which is a variation of the punisher logo, I got in a class back in 2011, should I throw it away? Wink


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Originally posted by justjoe:
Did Marvel create it? Many years ago I saw that skull on a website for "Wicked Grips." At the time-- maybe 20 years ago?-- they made high-end pistol grips-- exotic woods and other materials-- especially for 1911s. I had the impression that they created the design. Interesting if they got it from Marvell.



The Punisher (complete with skull motif) first appeared in The Amazing Spider-Man in early 1974. So I'd guess they could have gotten the idea way back when.


Yes, Wicked Grips uses the design created by Marvel as The Punisher's logo/insignia. It's been a common design to use on grips since his creation.


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All I know is whose ever skull that was, is long in the tooth.



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I would no more wear something with that on it than I would any other patch, logo'd shirt or tattoo that I have not earned. (And, even then, probably not. I like the advantage of surprise.)


These are my exact thoughts too.
 
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The first time I paid attention to the logo was when the bride & I saw, “American Sniper”.
 
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I have a Craft International hat with their logo, which is a variation of the punisher logo, ...

Chris Kyle's company, where he got it from his unit (ST3), which is whom popularized it on big scale.
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Originally posted by Rob Decker:That said, I don't want some overzealous DA trying to sell a jury on the idea that I was trying to emulate that particular character.

Any opportunity for the prosecution to 'create' a narrative and warp the jury.

There's already discussions within various DA conferences (and possibly already gone to trial) where rifles with optics, regardless of magnification, constitutes pre-meditation, ergo, over-charge and try to set a precedent.
 
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Looks good on this lower:



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I have a Punisher T shirt, and probably some other stuff around. Ive been around since the first intro of Frank Castle in Spiderman.

I don't have it all over my car, but I do have a Mandolorian Skull symbol on my Glock cover plate.

I don't think I am Mandalorian or anything, just like the characters




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