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Oh stewardess, I speak jive. |
^ the current plan is to choke off their food supply, air drop loads of Minnesota Tacos, and stand by while they flee at a high rate of speed. | |||
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Delusions of Adequacy |
If we take over Canada, where will all the libs threaten to move to when they lose elections? I have my own style of humor. I call it Snarkasm. | |||
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Experienced Slacker |
Can we just ask the pretty latin girls if they would like to join us? I mean, to hell with the rest of them. | |||
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Waiting for Hachiko |
When all the internal problems are corrected in the continental USA, maybe it could be a passing thought. 美しい犬 | |||
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Just because you can, doesn't mean you should |
I think most are missing the OP's post. He's not suggesting we become the Nazis, Commies or conquistadors. If those countries had a stable and slightly less corrupt government, they would be a paradise instead of a shithole. They have everything going for them when you think about the usual criteria for a prosperous society except for themselves. Now they threaten to march north to claim what they think is a birthright. The problem is that just like folks in the projects, they think that seizing assets will solve all their problems. But they and their approach to life are the problem. ___________________________ Avoid buying ChiCom/CCP products whenever possible. | |||
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delicately calloused |
yep You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier | |||
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Oh stewardess, I speak jive. |
^ Indeed. The only ones I advocate we fuck over are their existing criminals and corrupt politicians and organized crime. The regular people of those countries will only benefit. And I'm saying - despite the US's warts and inefficiencies, we'd run it all better than they all do, and that the abundance of Resort spots and Natural Resources would more than make it work, when all is said and done. We improve their lives in, say, Cusco or the Baja peninsula, and fewer will want to come here because there will be nicer - like here. Between the Oil, Coca, Silver, and land - we'd profit, and help them. Win Win. And, frankly, it's barely different from what we do now while pretending we don't. Let's quit pretending, and just take it. | |||
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Quoting every dictator, despot, conquistador, socialist & would-be benevolent supreme being. As a husband to a Mexican & step-son of a Nicaraguan, I say 'No mas'. I think it was one of JAllen's quotes that went something like 'people usually get the government they deserve'. The barred windows & barbed wire on every house isn't to keep the government out, it's to keep their fellow citizens out. Their government is just an extension of that. | |||
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My family has been in LatAm since Columbus went back for pasta. I’d say it’s much deeper than that - here in the US, there’s a fair amount of looting and social unrest when the facade of law and order dissipates after a natural disaster. Those countries, for a variety of reasons, have never recovered from their perpetual disasters (political, social, demographic, whatever). But to think we in the US are any “different”, I beg to differ. We are on the same path, just with more money (and the right to bear arms) to hide the problem.This message has been edited. Last edited by: reloader-1, | |||
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Just because you can, doesn't mean you should |
When Venezuela finally implodes it will be interesting to see which direction things go. This could be an opportunity to right the ship or it could be just another chapter in what is wrong in those countries. They sit on the largest petroleum reserves in the world. For many years that was enough to line the pockets of the crooks that run the place and pay off the slackers to maintain some order. Chavez and his hand picked successor, Maduro have so mismanaged the economy and society promising everything for doing nothing and we are watching a slow motion implosion there. Hopefully this won't destabilize their neighboring countries too much and someone with more vision and governing skills will be able to right the ship. Could go either way. The country is a real life version of Ayn Rand's fictional books. ___________________________ Avoid buying ChiCom/CCP products whenever possible. | |||
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Lawyers, Guns and Money |
The lesson is: Socialism fails... every time it's tried. It doesn't matter if "someone with more vision and governing skills" is running it. What they need is a system of law, based on respect for private property and individual liberty. If they allow people to live free, without government coercion or interference, prosperity will follow. "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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You're going to feel a little pressure... |
This thread reminds me of a poem: https://www.commonlit.org/text...e-white-man-s-burden Bruce "The designer of the gun had clearly not been instructed to beat about the bush. 'Make it evil,' he'd been told. 'Make it totally clear that this gun has a right end and a wrong end. Make it totally clear to anyone standing at the wrong end that things are going badly for them. If that means sticking all sort of spikes and prongs and blackened bits all over it then so be it. This is not a gun for hanging over the fireplace or sticking in the umbrella stand, it is a gun for going out and making people miserable with." -Douglas Adams “It is just as difficult and dangerous to try to free a people that wants to remain servile as it is to try to enslave a people that wants to remain free." -Niccolo Machiavelli The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends most of one's time defending scoundrels. For it is against scoundrels that oppressive laws are first aimed, and oppression must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all. -Mencken | |||
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I know it’s not the point of this poem, but fun fact: there are more people who are white/Caucasian in LatAm than there are in the US (219mm vs 197mm). Americans tend not to realize that for two reasons: those immigrating illegally tend to be lower income, i.e. indigenous or mixed race, and because the percentage of Caucasians increases as you travel further south. In other words, much as in the US, the further away you get from the equator the more Caucasian the population is. That’s neither here nor there, but your fun fact of the day | |||
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Never miss an opportunity to be Batman! |
Why? Lessons from history tell you that annexation only breeds resentment and eventual revolt. Even if the population was 90% for it, you would have 10% against it and the that is more than enough to fight a war of independence. How are you going to profit anything when farms, mines, land, water, shipments are destroyed or disrupted. Let them fix their own problems. | |||
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Gracie Allen is my personal savior! |
Well, there is at least one argument the other way - New Mexico. New Mexico was historically been so isolated from, and ignored by, Spain and Mexico that people there pretty much didn't care if the US took over. In theory somewhere that's been neglected and ignored enough might be willing to switch allegiances or at least tolerate a shift in national boundaries. | |||
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You're going to feel a little pressure... |
Okay, you have convinced me. Let's annex New Mexico. Bruce "The designer of the gun had clearly not been instructed to beat about the bush. 'Make it evil,' he'd been told. 'Make it totally clear that this gun has a right end and a wrong end. Make it totally clear to anyone standing at the wrong end that things are going badly for them. If that means sticking all sort of spikes and prongs and blackened bits all over it then so be it. This is not a gun for hanging over the fireplace or sticking in the umbrella stand, it is a gun for going out and making people miserable with." -Douglas Adams “It is just as difficult and dangerous to try to free a people that wants to remain servile as it is to try to enslave a people that wants to remain free." -Niccolo Machiavelli The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends most of one's time defending scoundrels. For it is against scoundrels that oppressive laws are first aimed, and oppression must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all. -Mencken | |||
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Muzzle flash aficionado |
Isn't New Mexico the only state with 2 "official" languages--English and Spanish (Mexican)? flashguy Texan by choice, not accident of birth | |||
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Gracie Allen is my personal savior! |
Could be - Texas used to be run from Santa Fe. | |||
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Big Stack |
France?
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Gracie Allen is my personal savior! |
^^^ You know, Woodrow Wilson forcibly deported a whole shipload of Socialists just after World War I. Maybe we could do the same thing? We'd just have to figure out whether to dump them on the west coast of France or the Mediterranean coast of France. | |||
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