This applies to the dog portion of the scenario only... but our German Shepherd is one, if not the first line of defense. I'm keeping him with my family, leashed if possible and again (if possible) in the room where we are holding up. My thinking is that as soon as I let the dog loose the house, we've lost the advantage of having him near us. Just thinking out loud.

I shoot all the cops who are in my house serving the no-knock-warrant and went to the wrong address again.

Our upstairs hallway tee's off to our master and at the other end is my two daughters rooms. In this event I'd grab my P220 off the nightstand and take a concealed position at the tee junction to make sure nobody would make it to any of our bedrooms and listen for a bit to get more info.

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Originally posted by dry-fly:
This applies to the dog portion of the scenario only... but our German Shepherd is one, if not the first line of defense. I'm keeping him with my family, leashed if possible and again (if possible) in the room where we are holding up. My thinking is that as soon as I let the dog loose the house, we've lost the advantage of having him near us. Just thinking out loud.

^^^ Agree. I want dog with me if things get up close and personal.

So no land line. No cordless. No cell phone.

Hmmm...

Throw a couple flash bangs to disorient and send them packing.

Grab my Sig, escape through the bedroom window and lay prone in the yard, and wait.

Push the instant summons button on my home security system for Police (and hope the lines were not cut), grab the 2022, lock the door and stack a few ammo cans against it. Then wait.

No children in the house, so barricade and arm myself.

I would announce loudly and through the door that I am armed and I am calling the police. Then call the police.

If whoever is there is legit, they'll retreat to safety and await the police.

If they are the police, they'll retreat to safety and await more police.

If they aren't there for a legit reason, well, at least I warned them.

Wake wife up who immediately lays down suppressive fire with full auto SAW. I grab the flash bangs and M4 and we begin clearing rooms. Toss in flash-bang and then enter, spraying room with a wall of lead until we clear the entire house.

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Originally posted by BamaJeepster:
Wake wife up who immediately lays down suppressive fire with full auto SAW. I grab the flash bangs and M4 and we begin clearing rooms. Toss in flash-bang and then enter, spraying room with a wall of lead until we clear the entire house.

damn dude....your a party animal!!

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Originally posted by dry-fly:
our German Shepherd is one, if not the first line of defense. I'm keeping him with my family, leashed if possible and again (if possible) in the room where we are holding up. My thinking is that as soon as I let the dog loose the house, we've lost the advantage of having him near us. Just thinking out loud.

If you believe in a Layered Defense, you wouldn't keep your dog close at hand. There is no advantage to keeping a dog, a CQB weapon, with you until the intruder gets within CQB range. Plus there is a disadvantage in that the dog could interfere with your lines of fire and focus...while also being exposed to danger if you should have to use your gun.

You'd want him to engage the intruder as far out, within the house, as possible. This serves two purposes:
1. It might drive out the intruder before you have to actually engage them
2. Their interaction will expose the intruder's location

Kids at other end of hall. So, I'd have to advance down the hall to the top of the stairs with the Winchester Defender and ascertain the situation.

Obviously, I need to add some Vaseline to the defense kit.

Two nights ago my wife woke me at 1:20 am saying, "There are people in the back yard with flashlights". I saw the lights, told my wife to call 911 and I grabbed by shotgun and went to the sliding glass door in the family room. I opened the door and asked in a hostile voice, "Who the hell are you guys?"

The answer was, "We're the police". They were responding to a silent alarm from my shed (which was undisturbed). They came over to the patio. I'm in my underwear with a shotgun pointed at the ground. My wife, who didn't call 911, is standing behind me.

The cops were unconcerned about the shotgun and, after making sure we were OK, left.

I asked my wife why she didn't call 911? She said, "I wanted to make sure you were safe".

Normally if my dog's going nuts in a second or so I can hear coyotes howling. If I heard voices, I'd grab the 6920 and wait.

My bedroom is on the second floor, ascending the staircase without opening yourself up to fire would be difficult.

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Originally posted by BamaJeepster:
Wake wife up who immediately lays down suppressive fire with full auto SAW. I grab the flash bangs and M4 and we begin clearing rooms. Toss in flash-bang and then enter, spraying room with a wall of lead until we clear the entire house.

What , no claymores in the hallway . No CS gas grenades . ...Rookie .

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Originally posted by Fenris:

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Originally posted by dry-fly:
This applies to the dog portion of the scenario only... but our German Shepherd is one, if not the first line of defense. I'm keeping him with my family, leashed if possible and again (if possible) in the room where we are holding up. My thinking is that as soon as I let the dog loose the house, we've lost the advantage of having him near us. Just thinking out loud.

^^^ Agree. I want dog with me if things get up close and personal.

Our dogs are family and therefore want them with us. Even if they were Dobies, and indeed they are just as fearless, they are with us.

Nevermind the dog, beware of the owner

Piss poor planning by the people in the scenario.

Not having a phone at hand?

Having the dogs locked in your room?

No alarm?

No cameras?

Too many AFU aspects to warrant an answer.

Besides I don't believe in the 'no win scenario'

Curl up in the fetal position, cry like a baby and hope they go away?
Just kidding. My carry pistol goes on the nightstand when I go to bed so I'd grab that and a light. Door closed, I'd probably announce that I am armed but not right in front of the door. I'd then wait and see if the dog quit barking or not to investigate.
Not something I like to think about happening even though it could.
Also, the dog is a 5 year old Pit Bull and I'm fairly certain that anyone who comes in the house unannounced and he doesn't know would not get a wagging tail.
What if I heard a gunshot(s)? Game on, only this time it would be the AR and I would be coming out of my bedroom, light on and put down anyone I didn't know.
Dangerous but shots fired inside my house will be answered.

In the interim, this is the last sight of the intruders at my place...



Yes, I have a pet elephant with a real sense of humor.

I light the fuse and set the house on fire with my incendiary self destruct mechanism that I have strung throughout the house. I then grab my bug out bag and jump out of the window and fire up the jeep. I tear butt up into the Uintas and never look back.

The gas line I purposefully busted on the way out then explodes exterminating whoever was in the house.

The cops are going to kill you and it will be your fault not theirs.

They're just protecting themselves.