If you can print off your ballot is it really a legit election?

If you control most of what people see and read is it an informed populous?

Free and fair elections are in my opinion something we have not had in a long time.

I was disappointed, but not surprised by CA voters. I assume that the D team cheated, but with a 64% retain vote it seems to be more than just cheating. That NPC “Govern me harder Daddy” meme seems to apply.

One thing seemed interesting - 63.92 voted not to recall, but 46.93 voted for Larry Elder?

Maybe some (or many) of the folks who voted no on the recall didn’t vote the second question and Larry got 46.93% of the votes that chose a candidate?

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Originally posted by Russ59:
We live with the highest property taxes, highest fuel taxes, highest $/student with some of the worst student performance, least housing affordability, etc. How are so many people happy with this that they'll continue to vote for the same party that crushes everyone's dream?

As a fellow resident, you know there's a LOT of apathy and in-difference amongst people. Barely 20% got off their asses to place a vote. Most 1st gen immigrants don't want anything to do with politics, either they don't pay attention or, they believe elections are rigged because that's what they're used to so, why bother participating. Many residents are transplants, wanting to bathe in all that is Left. Then there's the chunk that grew up here, got a heavy dose of slanted indoctrination in the public school system, saw every school club and organization as being a leftist bastion but, they did nothing. No pushback, give me my sheepskin and get me outta here. There's a lot of conservatives that have left the state.

A significant chunk of the electorate see social engineering as their religion and the ballot box is their alter. Many have gotten it hard-wired into them that anybody with a R, is a corrupt Mr Money Bags or, a religious zealot that wants to harvest ovaries...never mind they never apply such far-out reasoning to anybody with a D or a G. They're either financially comfortable and don't want to change anything because they've been able to get on top or, their entire life has been one disappointment after another because they're unable to connect-the-dots, thus they must blame 'the other'.

The news media, academics and the endless supply of non-profits and social advocacy organizations have all worked hard to demonize anybody who offers a counter argument or, anything conservative. Look at the incident where Elder was egged in Venice Beach, that was a group of crazy homeless that confronted him and his staff. Yet, the media bent-over backwards to frame it as 'the people' confronting a Republican and 'speaking truth to power'.

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Originally posted by slosig:

One thing seemed interesting - 63.92 voted not to recall, but 46.93 voted for Larry Elder?

Maybe some (or many) of the folks who voted no on the recall didn’t vote the second question and Larry got 46.93% of the votes that chose a candidate?

Of the Yes to Recall and those who answered question #2, Elder got 47%. That's how I read it.

The silver lining is the d assclowns spent a lot of time defending a Governor that should have been unassailable. That had to cost them capital and wear on their internal alliances a bit.

The Democrats has it down pat at "winning" elections. Having the big names like Biden, Kamala, and Klobachar was just cover for how so many ballots came out against the recall.

5,000,000 voted for a person to replace Newsom but only 3.3 million voted to recall Newsom??? Yeah, right.

Recall Election Results

hmmmmmm...

Democrats lie and cheat. Ends justify the means. They have no moral compass. They have no ethics. I believe this to be be true - not at the individual level per se but a group aggregate level, and especially for those in politics and following politics.

That being said, if I glance at some quick stats:

1. Seems like there are about 22M registered voters
2. A good 13.7M are in the metro areas and are largely democrats (let's say a good 70%); Santa Clara 75% No. LA County 70%. So, 9.6M democrat voters.
3. Assume that 40% of non-metro area voters also vote democrat (as suggested by the voting pattern of a 'red' county). So, another 3.3M or about 13M total democrat voters out of 22M
4. County stats seems to show good turn out for red counties, decent turn out for metro counties. https://electionresults.sos.ca.gov/returns/status
5. I would have guess that the results would have been much closer than the 35-65 split they are showing - something like 5.4M recall vs 6.5M no recall. Yes, we still would have lost but the margin by which we lost seems funny......

People get the government they deserve

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Originally posted by konata88: Yes, we still would have lost but the margin by which we lost seems funny......

I believe they're still counting up mail-in ballots, absentees and all the other 'exception' ballots.

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Originally posted by SIGnified:
People get the government they deserve

I hear that all the time but what does that say to the 2 million that voted for change? Or the people like Corsair or Russ59 or any of the others that have to live there?

One thing about Santa Clara I never could stomach, all the damn vampires.

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Originally posted by BamaJeepster:
The people of California have spoken - they want lockdowns, mask and vaccine mandates, higher taxes and a broken economy.

I'm sure Newsom will continue to deliver.

Oh, look - it's a miracle!

The 'science' changed over night, pure coincidence that the election is over!

Most of the voters who voted for Newsome were actually voting against Trump. I know he wasn't on the ballot, but Newsome did a good job of portraying Elder as a Trump clone. Newsome actually mentioned Trump in his typical stump speech repeatedly, while barely mentioning Elder's name. I don't think that a lot of us who voted for Trump twice quite appreciate the extent that loathing for Trump motivates the Democrat base to get out and vote.

^^^^^ That intense loathing is sure evidence that he was doing something right.

flashguy

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Oh, look - it's a miracle!

The 'science' changed over night, pure coincidence that the election is over!

Once again, we see elections have consequences. Let’s see if they enjoy the fruits of this one.

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Originally posted by gearhounds:

Once again, we see elections have consequences. Let’s see if they enjoy the fruits of this one.

I think they actually love it.

My ultra, ultra leftist cousin who lives in LA County posted this after the election. It's almost like a form of Stockholm syndrome.

I feel bad for our Forum members here stuck behind CA lines - but the general urban population of CA can reep what it sows. My only wish is that they remain there and enjoy what they have created. (CA is not the only State in this situation - they just like being the front-runner)

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I don't think that a lot of us who voted for Trump twice quite appreciate the extent that loathing for Trump motivates the Democrat base to get out and vote.

This is the gods truth., the press and the left have worked and continue to work hard to suppress the Trump side of the vote in America.

Look no Further than DC where the D response to the new rally is to put up a fence and call in the national guard to further enhance the image of right wing extremist ideology. Pelosi is using this event and making comments in the news about Trump and his rogue rally supporters, further pushing the relationship to the extreme right and the press prints it.

Most knew the recall was going to fail from day one, no R will ever win an election in CA for governor or POTUS, it's not a 1 or 2 % state its a 12 to 15% margin state.

All it did was empower the left and Newsome who can stand on this as some kind of justification of everything he's done now and will continue to do..