Is Miss America still a thing? Thought that went out back in in 90's.....

Ahhhh.... so Gretchen Carlson is behind all of this BS. Now it makes sense.

I think Gretchen Carlson is a bad woman...

Miss America: Gretchen Carlson 'Silenced,' Bullied Me. Carlson: You Just Cost Us $75K.

"Our chair and CEO have systematically silenced me, reduced me, marginalized me, and essentially erased me in my role as Miss America ..."



Miss North Dakota 2017 Cara Mund participates in the 2018 Miss America Competition Show at Boardwalk Hall Arena on September 10, 2017 in Atlantic City, New Jersey.

In a blistering letter sent Friday to former Miss Americas, reigning Miss America Cara Mund accused the organization's leadership, including chairwoman Gretchen Carlson, of having "systematically silenced me, reduced me, marginalized me, and essentially erased me in my role as Miss America." On Sunday, Carlson replied with a letter of her own in which she counters Mund's accusations.

"Let me be blunt: I strongly believe that my voice is not heard nor wanted by our current leadership; nor do they have any interest in knowing who I am and how my experiences relate to positioning the organization for the future," Mund wrote in a letter to all former Miss Americas. "Our chair and CEO have systematically silenced me, reduced me, marginalized me, and essentially erased me in my role as Miss America in subtle and not-so-subtle ways on a daily basis. After a while, the patterns have clearly emerged, and the sheer accumulation of the disrespect, passive-aggressive behavior, belittlement, and outright exclusion has taken a serious toll."

Mund says that she's been told by the leadership that she can only say three things in public appearances: "Miss America is relevant. The #MeToo movement started with a Miss America, Gretchen Carlson. Gretchen Carlson went to Stanford," THR reports.

Carlson, a former Miss America and Fox News host who sued then-network head Roger Ailes for sexual harassment, took over as chair of Miss America in the wake of an email scandal and what has turned out to be the rather tumultuous #MeToo period that her own bold actions helped to trigger. In her response to Mund which she tweeted out Sunday, Carlson cited the difficulties of handling the "change-filled year" for Miss America as it has made significant adjustments — including dropping the swimsuit portion and no longer judging contestants on appearance — but Carlson also made clear that Mund's accusations are both unfair and deeply damaging to the brand.

"I was surprised and saddened beyond words from our reigning Miss America Cara Mund," Carlson wrote (full letter below). "I so wish Cara had picked up the phone and discussed her concerns with me directly, before going to the media with allegations of bullying. Since her letter was posted, I have reached out to Cara via phone, text and email to try to speak, as I have always felt this is the best way to air grievances and find resolution. Unfortunately, Cara's response has been that she only wants to communicate via email but I remain hopeful that we can speak on the phone or in person soon."

Carlson then directed her comments to Cara, first telling her that the organization is proud of her, but also unequivocally denying the allegations that she ever "bullied or silenced" her.

"Cara, let me be clear: We, as an organization, are very proud of you and all you have accomplished. You are smart, caring and ambitious," wrote Carlson. "As a Brown graduate, you aspire to go to law school and one day run for Governor in your home state of North Dakota. You embody the mission of Miss America.

"I also want to be clear that I have never bullied or silenced you," Carlson continued. "In fact, I have acknowledged to you and your parents many times that the organization understands the frustrations of serving during such a change-filled and stressful year. It surely was not what you had expected. We’ve acknowledged your grievances, and taken many steps to try to make your experience a good one. You are at the epicenter of a very historic moment for women. Over the past two years, our country has undergone a seismic shift in how professional women are depicted and treated."

Carlson also underscored the negative impact Mund's accusations have had on the organization already, citing the loss of $75,000 in scholarships as a direct result of her claims, with more inevitable "consequences" to come.

"Actions have consequences," wrote Carlson. "Friday, as an organization, we learned that $75,000 in scholarships which would have been the first scholarship increase in years, is no longer on the table as a direct result of the explosive allegations in your letter. The impact won’t stop there — we are already seeing a negative ripple effect across the entire organization, and I am so concerned that it will dilute the experience for the next woman selected to wear the crown."​

https://www.dailywire.com/news...arlson-james-barrett

Gretchen should be immediately suspended and walked to the door with all her hair care products until she can prove her innocence. #metoo

Gretch did far more damage to the brand than Cara, whether she can admit it or not.

Stick a fork in it.

It has always been all about Gretchen, even when she was with FNC. Sadly, she's not nearly as important or wanted as she thinks she is.

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Originally posted by parabellum:
The real fun will be watching them try to walk this back after a couple of pageants with ratings lower than your local 5 AM farm report.

There won't be anything left to "walk back". Miss America ratings have been in the tank for at least 10 or 20 years. With this change they will only draw in the parents of the girls in the contest, so it's going to get flushed before the year is up. In fact I suspect that not one single major broadcaster will be willing to put on even one show without the swimsuits.

I'm guessing Gretchen is full of bullshit and is lying. I mean seriously taking away the swimsuit competition and appearance judging and then blaming the negative ripple effect on Cara. What a load of BS.

Did anyone even realize this took place this past Sunday night? It's odd in that it got very little coverage in the media.

This is a real head-scratcher I tell ya!

Who'da thunk it?

Bikini-Free Miss America Viewership Plummets 36% In Key 18-49 Age Demographic

Stick a fork in this thing. I'm not even sure they bother having it next year.

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Originally posted by PASig:
Did anyone even realize this took place this past Sunday night? It's odd in that it got very little coverage in the media.

This is a real head-scratcher I tell ya!

Who'da thunk it?

Bikini-Free Miss America Viewership Plummets 36% In Key 18-49 Age Demographic

Stick a fork in this thing. I'm not even sure they bother having it next year.

Yea, that should be a huge draw for advertisers. Agreed, this Miss America thing is history.

I've never paid attention to these things anyway, who cares what they want to do.

put them in scrubs for the whole dam show, and call it good

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Originally posted by PASig:

Bikini-Free Miss America Viewership Plummets 36% In Key 18-49 Age Demographic

Stick a fork in this thing. I'm not even sure they bother having it next year.

-36% is a catastrophic failure in TV ratings. It is about as bad as the performance of Kevin Spacey's last film at the box office.

Leftist ideology and political correctness is such a winning formula

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Originally posted by PASig:
Did anyone even realize this took place this past Sunday night? It's odd in that it got very little coverage in the media.

This is a real head-scratcher I tell ya!

Who'da thunk it?

Bikini-Free Miss America Viewership Plummets 36% In Key 18-49 Age Demographic

Stick a fork in this thing. I'm not even sure they bother having it next year.

Wow.

I just watched a segment about pushing for the end of cheerleaders in various sports, because it objectifies women. It mentioned the ring girls at fights, boxing, mma, nfl, all of it. I wonder how far the PC bs will go. I’ve listened to women tell me they watch basketball and football because of the men’s physiques, etc. I guess they’ll be calling for the basketball players to wear pants and t-shirts soon.

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Originally posted by Prefontaine:

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Originally posted by PASig:
Did anyone even realize this took place this past Sunday night? It's odd in that it got very little coverage in the media.

This is a real head-scratcher I tell ya!

Who'da thunk it?

Bikini-Free Miss America Viewership Plummets 36% In Key 18-49 Age Demographic

Stick a fork in this thing. I'm not even sure they bother having it next year.

Wow.

I just watched a segment about pushing for the end of cheerleaders in various sports, because it objectifies women. It mentioned the ring girls at fights, boxing, mma, nfl, all of it. I wonder how far the PC bs will go. I’ve listened to women tell me they watch basketball and football because of the men’s physiques, etc. I guess they’ll be calling for the basketball players to wear pants and t-shirts soon.

F1 dropped their Grid Girls this season, and I've seen a few comments that a lot of the girls that participated were upset about it, as it was a source of income for them.
Monaco was the exception to the exclusion.

To be fair, I'm guessing viewership would have been down 30+% even with the bikini part.

It just isn't relevant to our culture any more...

I don’t understand why they are televised any longer. If i understand correctly appearance is not a factor. Submit an application by mail judge the application and announce the winner on line. It’s simply a college scholarship with a work/study provision.

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Originally posted by Prefontaine:

Wow.

I just watched a segment about pushing for the end of cheerleaders in various sports, because it objectifies women. It mentioned the ring girls at fights, boxing, mma, nfl, all of it. I wonder how far the PC bs will go. I’ve listened to women tell me they watch basketball and football because of the men’s physiques, etc. I guess they’ll be calling for the basketball players to wear pants and t-shirts soon.

I'll tell ya this, I don't think I've can think of anything more boring or uninteresting to watch for me than the WNBA. However, if those girls actually wore proper length shorts during play--I'm talking mid-thigh length--instead of the ghetto crap that is below their knees, than I might actually tune in now and then and enjoy a game. It's the same reason why I only enjoy watching women's soccer.

Next: modest swimwear for women's professional beach volleyball: