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| No More Mr. Nice Guy |
I believe this operation has maybe 5 or 6 dimensions. Starving Cuba of oil, thwarting China's foothold in South America, taking out a major cartel, damaging Mexican government-cartel operations, sending messages to numerous foreign powers, etc etc. It isn't simply regime change or grabbing resources. Trump is smart enough to know, as you state, that a prosperous Venezuela will be a great benefit to the whole world. | |||
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Diablo Blanco |
I agree with the above assessment. The fact that a fleet of empty Chinese tankers were en route and that a Chinese delegation was already in country for me is very telling. Plus, I’ve learned the importance of paying attention to what the media is not reporting. If the Chinese were to start buying or transporting Venezuelan crude it would have complicated the oil embargo beyond comprehension. It’s unfathomable that a country so rich in resources has people as poor as Venezuela. That’s what communism looks like in real life! _________________________ "An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile - hoping it will eat him last” - Winston Churchil | |||
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Also some of the equation for what is happening - “The REAL Reason Behind Why The United States Just Took Over Venezuela?” https://wltreport.com/2026/01/...xed&utm_campaign=PTN Further explained in the article – ONE: You may not know this, but dating back to the Bushes, Venezuela became a huge CIA hub. TWO: It has long been rumored that a large part of the election rigging was “outsourced” to companies with operations in Venezuela. THREE: cutting off Iran. You also may not realize this, but Iran has deep ties to Venezuela, with many of their drone factories and other assets in the country. __________ "I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy." | |||
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Shaman |
I read that there were 2 US casualties and one helicopter shot up.(returned though) Can anyone here corroborate this?  He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. | |||
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| Lawyers, Guns and Money  |
I always learn something from tatortodd's posts. "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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Drill Here, Drill Now |
One helicopter shot up but completed mission and flew home afterward was part of yesterday's briefing by Gen Caine. The same briefing said zero casualties Ego is the anesthesia that deadens the pain of stupidity DISCLAIMER: These are the author's own personal views and do not represent the views of the author's employer. | |||
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Zero deaths, not zero casualties. Nothing life threatening, but it was serious. | |||
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Looks like the machine guns part of the charges first get mentioned on pgs 23 and 24 here. I think it's a stretch and they surely have plenty more viable charges they can pile on than claiming our NFA applies to foreigners on foreign soil. I don't like this one. Freewill Firearms 07 FFL, Class 2 SOT | |||
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| Savor the limelight |
Could it be they provided machine guns to the drug runners who brought said machine guns with them to America? Does gun running not rank up there with drug running? | |||
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Step by step walk the thousand mile road |
The charge associated with MGs is not for untaxed possession under 18 USC 922, it is for possession and/or use of firearms in furtherance of a drug crime under 18 USC 924(c)9(1).
In short, the 18 USC 924 charge means he'll never see freedom again. Nice is overrated "It's every freedom-loving individual's duty to lie to the government." Airsoftguy, June 29, 2018 | |||
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It's just bad optics to say our laws apply to everyone all over the world, even non-citizens who've never stepped foot on US soil. Not shedding a tear for Maduro, but it seems to me the drug smuggling should suffice, as well as the fact that, well, we can take him out and no one can stop us. And that's pretty much been the standard for use of force for all of world history. BTW, if possessing a MG in furtherance of a crime can be applied to a foreigner in a foreign country, shouldn't Luigi Mangione's unregistered silencer kick his case up to federal court and guarantee he dies of old age in prison, no matter what NYC does to him? Freewill Firearms 07 FFL, Class 2 SOT | |||
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Shall Not Be Infringed |
^^ It's the Conspiracy charges that tie it all together. I guarantee those drug running boats that we've been seeing 'blown up real good' recently aren't armed w/ slingshots. And back in 2020 at the time of the original Indictment, I'm sure the majority of such boats were reaching U.S. territorial waters, where U.S. Law certainly applies. It's neither a stretch, nor 'bad optics' to bring those charges. Rather, it's simply effective utilization of the law in furtherance of an air tight case for prosecution! As was indicated by 'Sig2340', "In short, the 18 USC 924 charge means he'll never see freedom again." ____________________________________________________________ If Some is Good, and More is Better.....then Too Much, is Just Enough !! Trump 47....Making America Great Again! "May Almighty God bless the United States of America" - parabellum 7/26/20 Live Free or Die! | |||
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| Peace through superior firepower  |
That's not what's going on here. You really don't understand that this dictator was for years facilitating the trafficking of drugs into the United States, which resulted in the deaths of countless Americans? Really? | |||
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That's how a lot of people see it and especially how other countries' media (just as left as ours) portray it. I'm sure some of the drug boats we've sunk had guns on them. But short of MGs showing up in crime scenes or drug busts on US soil, especially guns that originated in Venezuela and not in the US, it just looks like we're applying our laws to everyone, when we've clearly got enough on Maduro to not have to do that. Freewill Firearms 07 FFL, Class 2 SOT | |||
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| Peace through superior firepower |
How many times have you seen someone who shot at police, fled in a stolen vehicle, crashed into police cars and endangered the public in general, have one of the charges be "failure to signal"? Get it? And I don't give a rat's ass how any of this appears to "other countries". Finally- FINALLY- we have a POTUS who acts, and decisively so. There is NOTHING to complain about. Mission accomplished and ZERO American lives lost. Say "Thank you, Mister President." | |||
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Get Off My Lawn |
 "I’m not going to read Time Magazine, I’m not going to read Newsweek, I’m not going to read any of these magazines; I mean, because they have too much to lose by printing the truth"- Bob Dylan, 1965 | |||
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| Lawyers, Guns and Money |
A DSA leftist wetdream.... Behold! Liberal "progress": Venezuela timeline 1992 Became 3rd richest country in Hemisphere 1997 Became 2nd largest purchaser of F—150 2001 Voted for Socialist president "Income Inequality" 2004 Private healthcare is completely socialized 2007 All higher education becomes "free" 2009 Socialist banned private ownership of guns 2012 Bernie Sanders praises their "American Dream" 2014 Opposition Leaders are imprisoned 2016 Food/healthcare shortages become wide spread 2017 Constitution and elections are suspended 2019 Unarmed citizens massacred by own government It took only one generation of "leftist progressive" leadership to plunge Venezuela into chaos and poverty. "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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| Shall Not Be Infringed |
Did you not read what 'Sig2340' posted??
Who gives a shit 'how a lot of people see it'? Prosecutions are based on the law, NOT how the media portrays it! ____________________________________________________________ If Some is Good, and More is Better.....then Too Much, is Just Enough !! Trump 47....Making America Great Again! "May Almighty God bless the United States of America" - parabellum 7/26/20 Live Free or Die! | |||
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Oriental Redneck |
Yeah, should realize if the last ten years have taught folks anything, it’s that no matter what good Trump does, he will always be Orange Man Bad. Even if he found a cure for cancer, Boasberg would order him to put it back in the body. So yeah, FUCK THEM. Q | |||
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Hold on Old Rugged, 92 is partially right. Oil is a part of it. A rather big part of it too. So is toppling a Communist dictatorship, liberating its people, the flow of Narcotics from that country, arresting the HMFIC down there who gave the thumbs up for Narcotics to flow through his country into ours. I know in about 6 months, the first Starbucks, Domino’s Pizza, and maybe a McDonald’s will be somewhere in Caracas. We’re going to… “help install” a National Government down there. Having seen this a few times in the past, Im pretty sure that Government is going to get along with the Good Ole’ US of A rather smashingly. “Long lasting ties, economic prosperity for the region…” type stuff. We’re gonna send them some M-4’s, 7-tons, Humvees’, a few dozen Blackhawks, maybe even a few boats. There’s going to be some “advisors” down there training them. (The majority of those “advisors” will have beards, all tattooed up, probably a few “5-11 / Vertex / Crye Precision” in their duffel bags. Some of those “advisors” will probably be wearing “hugo boss / IWC watches”, or greasy coveralls- those will be the ones looking in on all of that “Texas Tea” as the Clampetts used to call it.) I’m about 98% certain that the Trump Admin has already picked out a solid handful of players down there that are going to be super enthusiastic about working with their “American Counterparts”. They were probably picked way before 03 Jan 26. Here’s a valid question: Why not Peru? Huge, huge exporter of Cocaine. Kind of a fucked-up, 3rd World - Latin American type Government. Granted, they’re not “Communist”, but they ain’t exactly a “Democracy” with a lot of political parties being bought and paid for. Costal region, hot women, good food… Kind of the same as Venezuela, but without the oil. Hmmm….. not DONT GET ME WRONG, IM NOT SAYING DJT SHOULDNT HAVE DONE IT! He damn sure should have! But let’s not fool ourselves by thinking that Oil wasn’t a major part of that equation. ______________________________________________________________________ "When its time to shoot, shoot. Dont talk!" “What the government is good at is collecting taxes, taking away your freedoms and killing people. It’s not good at much else.” —Author Tom Clancy | |||
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