Originally posted by TMats: This question is for those who have been getting the annual flu vaccine. If you don’t get it anyway, it’s not necessary to inform me (or any of us) that, “You’ve never taken the shot and never will.”
For the latter 10 years or so of my life I’ve gone ahead and taken the flu shot. I felt I reached an age where it was a probably a good idea. This year, I’m more than hesitant. We’ve been lied to, or at best, subjected to guesswork with respect to our national healthcare. I don’t trust any of those fuckers with my health any longer, and therefore; I’m reluctant to get a flu shot.
Anyone else here have similar thoughts?
No. The flu shot is the same as always. I realize many have questions about the Covid shot, but they don't really apply to the flu shot. The flu shot is pretty much entirely a commercial venture - the government doesn't have much to do with it.
I sometimes get a flu shot, and sometimes don't. It depends on if I can get one conveniently. As SIGnified said, the flu vaccine is prepared based on predictions as to what flu strains are circulating, and sometimes they don't get it right. Because of that uncertainty and my general good health, I don't feel a lot of pressure about getting the vaccine.
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Posts: 53411 | Location: Texas | Registered: February 10, 2004
I got the flu shot once, and that was a year after getting the flu (for the first time), which I didn't like one bit.
However, after the pandemic my lifestyle, including what I need to do employment-wise, have changed dramatically, probably for the better. I haven't had a cold or URI since before the wu flu. As a result, I'll assume the risk of going without the flu vaccine. I did get the two-step shingles vaccine, that'll be it.
Posts: 3076 | Location: USA | Registered: June 12, 2008
Originally posted by MNSIG: I'll get one in late October. The immunity wanes over time, so I think the push for September vaccination is a little early for most flu seasons.
Does immunity really wane ??? If I remember correctly BEFORE covid most of the time when one experiences the virus the antibodies our body produces is for a LIFETIME. In my opinion, before so called science changed and we are now told different.
You certainly retain some immunity in your B and T cells, but the immunity to infection definitely drops. The tetanus shot is an example of a very traditional vaccine that is not once in a lifetime.
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Does immunity really wane ??? If I remember correctly BEFORE covid most of the time when one experiences the virus the antibodies our body produces is for a LIFETIME. In my opinion, before so called science changed and we are now told different.
Yes immunity wanes over time. This happens at different rates for different infectious agents. Plus, the flu for example can be caused by any number of viruses - immunity against one is not immunity against another.This message has been edited. Last edited by: jhe888,
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Posts: 53411 | Location: Texas | Registered: February 10, 2004
I have taken the annual flu shot for several years since my employer at the time began to offer it on site. Employer has changed since, but they offer it on site as well. To each his own. It’s an individual decision.
Posts: 801 | Location: NW North Carolina | Registered: November 04, 2009
The last time I had the flu was 1993 when I gave my last bottle of Sambucol to a co-worker with the agreement that he would replace it. At the time, you had to mail order it. I should have known better...I got the flu several weeks later.
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Posts: 11896 | Location: Herndon, VA | Registered: June 11, 2009
I was required to get an annual flu shot every year to meet readiness requirements for the AF Reserve. Never had a bad reaction to it. I have been retired 11 years now but still get the shot every year. Over 65, there is a senior vaccine they give you. My daughter is an ER physician who says we should get it, so we continue to follow her advice and have had no ill effects.
Had a bad case of flu during Christmas time '71, several mild episodes since then. Got the shot yesterday; I often do due to a condition that could trigger bronchitis. Had shingles bad at age 50; got the vaccination just in case a couple of years ago.
Posts: 3483 | Location: Fairfax Co. VA | Registered: August 03, 2015
I'm pushing 70 and been getting the flu shot for the past 35 yrs or so. No issues ever and never really been sick but not sure if it's because of the shot. Got mine last week.
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I've gotten the flu shot since 1984 after getting the flu back then. I have no problem getting the classic flu vaccine.
I just got an email from CVS that they are looking for volunteers for a new mRNA-based shot. There's no effing way I'll knowingly submit to that after what's emerging about the COVID mRNA vaccine.
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Posts: 16721 | Location: Under the Boot of Tyranny in Connectistan | Registered: February 02, 2005
For the reasons you mentioned I will not get a flu shot. I do not trust the medical field. I have my yearly physical next week with an new doctor because we have transitioned out of full time RVing to our house we built last year. I am formulating in my head what my response is when asked if I have been vaccinated. All of them so far are leaning towards challenging my Dr.
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Posts: 4907 | Location: SWMO | Registered: October 20, 2009
Next week the local Food Bank will be offering Flu Shots . They arrange this through a Pharmacy here that supplies the vaccines and a Nurse . No charge if you have Insurance , Medicare , etc.
Posts: 4420 | Location: Down in Louisiana . | Registered: February 27, 2009
Until I see fema and bodies stacked up on the curbs I will never get any kind of vaccine again. That is where my confidence is in our healthcare/government.
Originally posted by Ryanp225: Until I see fema and bodies stacked up on the curbs I will never get any kind of vaccine again. That is where my confidence is in our healthcare/government.
My son was in NYC during Covid… Lived across the street from the hospital and saw refer semi-trailers stacked full of bodies, daily for months and months.
Even then wasn’t gonna do it due to autoimmune issues.
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Posts: 26758 | Location: dughouse | Registered: February 04, 2003
Originally posted by parabellum: I've never had a flu shot and I'm never going to have a flu shot.
I know your position on flu shots. You've always said "nope, not for me". Just a little on my experience. Both my wife and I got the flu in 2001. Mine very mild. Like a cold. (I'd been getting the jab for years, her no) I became the care taker, my wife, although wasn't to hospitalization level was really really sick. She never gets sick. She shit and puked every 30 minutes and felt like crap for over a week barely moving off the couch. Shitting a puking being the only motivator to move. She said shoot me if this ever hits me again, and became a believer in vaccination. Good as gold since.
So, other than not trusting the government, what's your hesitation? Don't think the science is solid?, afraid of the needle?, don't like friendly buxom nurses leaning over to give the shot?
Maybe you explained this in the past, and if so I missed it. Not a jab (pun) at you, just wondering as my take is 180 out.
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Posts: 11524 | Location: Fort Worth, Texas | Registered: February 07, 2007
Shitting and puking is typically not a deep lung infection like influenza.
What you described is more like a virus in the gastrointestinal track.
I only bring this up to you because it’s a very common misconception. Very different things but often confused by most people.
The flu vaccine will do nothing against those kind of episodes/illnesses. Glad all y’all feel better.
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Posts: 26758 | Location: dughouse | Registered: February 04, 2003
No. The flu shot is the same as always. I realize many have questions about the Covid shot, but they don't really apply to the flu shot. The flu shot is pretty much entirely a commercial venture - the government doesn't have much to do with it.
Yet we know Pfizer has started mRNA flu shot trials, seeking volunteers publicly through local pharmacies. There may be a slew of other mRNA products coming out, too.
I have nearly zero faith in local pharmacies keeping one group of vials properly isolated, and zero faith that someone won't unwillingly get an mRNA jab. Before long, new mRNA products (and DNA products) will be silently approved by FDA. Consumers will have no idea they aren't getting the same old vaccines of safe formulations.
Posts: 9847 | Location: On the mountain off the grid | Registered: February 25, 2002
