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Originally posted by coloradohunter44:

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Originally posted by bigdeal:
From watching The Tucker Carlson show tonight I think I now believe this lawsuit was specifically planned to occur 'now' by Letitia. Tucker noted tonight that the NRA had planned to contribute $70m during this election cycle. Filing this lawsuit at this time is likely to cause them to pull back most if not all of that money in preparation for this lawsuit. Letitia, though incredibly corrupt, isn't stupid, so she knows the likelihood she can win a case to disband the entire NRA is minimal at best. So instead she sows chaos and attempts to neuter NRA campaign contributions less than 100 days in advance of a national election. That theory fits the current corrupt Dem 'Resistance' playbook perfectly.

Then it's time for a few folks to send $25 or $50 to offset this blatant attempt to squash us. I definitely will be.

Done.

Now is not the time to cut and run.

I'm in the process of reading the summons and complaint - it does not look good.

https://ag.ny.gov/sites/defaul..._and_complaint_1.pdf

The details of the dirty deeds beings on page 34 of the document (page 39 of the pdf). If WLP and his cronies actually misused, misappropriated or otherwise defrauded the NRA, is the NRA responsible for it? If the NRA basically turned into the slush fund for WLP et al, couldn't this be used to pierce the corporate veil and remove it's status as a non-profit? Couldn't the IRS come in later and claim they weren't acting as a nonprofit?

To me, even if it is true that the timing of this complaint is suspect, the real culprits are the people that have made the NRA vulnerable in the first place, so if Wayne LaPierre, Wilson Phillips, John Frazer and Joshua Powell had not done the stupid stuff they allegedly did, we wouldn't be in this mess in the first place. In my opinion, we should lay blame at the feet of these guys first. They put the NRA in this position. They put us all in this position, and the NRA needs to clean house. The sooner we get these guys out of there, the better.

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Originally posted by 9mm_shooter:
I'm in the process of reading the summons and complaint - it does not look good.

https://ag.ny.gov/sites/defaul..._and_complaint_1.pdf

The details of the dirty deeds beings on page 34 of the document (page 39 of the pdf). If WLP and his cronies actually misused, misappropriated or otherwise defrauded the NRA, is the NRA responsible for it? If the NRA basically turned into the slush fund for WLP et al, couldn't this be used to pierce the corporate veil and remove it's status as a non-profit? Couldn't the IRS come in later and claim they weren't acting as a nonprofit?

To me, even if it is true that the timing of this complaint is suspect, the real culprits are the people that have made the NRA vulnerable in the first place, so if Wayne LaPierre, Wilson Phillips, John Frazer and Joshua Powell had not done the stupid stuff they allegedly did, we wouldn't be in this mess in the first place. In my opinion, we should lay blame at the feet of these guys first. They put the NRA in this position. They put us all in this position, and the NRA needs to clean house. The sooner we get these guys out of there, the better.

We can sort out those allegations after the election, November 3rd.

Keep your perspective. The GDC's don't give a damn about alleged misappropriations of NRA funds except as weapon to subjugate you and me.


Don't let the enemy divide and conquer.

If the GDC's win, it won't matter. It won't matter at all.

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Originally posted by RichardC:

We can sort out those allegations after the election, November 3rd.

Keep your perspective. The GDC's don't give a damn about alleged misappropriations of NRA funds except as weapon to subjugate you and me.

Don't let the enemy divide and conquer.

If the GDC's win, it won't matter. It won't matter at all.

While I agree with that I also have thought for years that Wayne has to go.

Exactly, keeping the right busy with accusations, lawsuits, bad press, smears, investigations have the left hoping it will weaken Trump and the NRA. Well it’s not like it’s ever been a secret who the left hates and fears most.

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Originally posted by sdy:
All I know is that this is an obvious DEM attack on an organization the DEMs hate.

Right before the Presidential election to weaken the NRA impact to support Donald Trump.

I'll be sending the NRA a check.

FORMER NRA LEADER TURNS AGAINST ORGANIZATION, EMBRACES GUN CONTROL MEASURES


https://6abc.com/joshua-powell...trol-rights/6412881/

Follow the money that paid for the book deal, Josh

Well, some incremental good news.

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfr...22/03/02/id/1059323/

Wednesday, 02 March 2022 03:48 PM

NRA Cannot Be Dissolved by New York Attorney General, Judge Rules
A judge said New York's attorney general cannot dissolve the National Rifle Association (NRA) for alleged corruption and mismanagement, but can still seek the ouster of the gun rights group's longtime Chief Executive Wayne LaPierre.
Justice Joel Cohen of a New York state court in Manhattan said Attorney General Letitia James' accusations mainly concern private harm to the NRA, its members and donors, not financial mismanagement or an inability to serve its members.
He said James' claims could be addressed without shutting down the NRA, which is incorporated in New York, and without potentially infringing its members' free speech rights.
"The complaint does not allege the type of public harm that is the legal linchpin for imposing the 'corporate death penalty," Cohen wrote.
He said James could seek LaPierre's ouster under state laws governing nonprofits after describing in "meticulous detail" his alleged exploitation of the NRA for his financial benefit, abuse of power, and "general disregard for corporate governance."
In a statement, James said she was disappointed that the dissolution claims were dismissed, but pleased she could try to show how "fraud, abuse, and greed permeate through the NRA and its senior leadership." She will review her legal options.
Lawyers for the NRA did not immediately respond to requests for comment.
James, a Democrat, sued the NRA in August 2020, and accused it of engaging in suspect transactions and awarding improper perks to LaPierre and others, while evading accountability.
The NRA responded by filing for bankruptcy protection in January 2021 and trying to reincorporate in Texas.
A Dallas bankruptcy judge dismissed that case four months later, calling it an improper effort to gain an "unfair litigation advantage" and avoid James' oversight.
Founded in 1871 in New York, the NRA accused James of violating its free speech rights because she disliked its politics and support of Republicans, many of whom favor expanding gun rights. James has denied those claims.
© 2022 Thomson/Reuters. All rights reserved.

Emphases mine.

I am happy that lying, partisan, commie Letitia James cannot dissolve the whole NRA, whom she badmouths right down past the leadership to us, the membership.

Just a reminder:
New York Attorney General Letitia James announced Thursday that her office has filed a lawsuit against the National Rifle Association and its leadership, including Executive Vice President Wayne LaPierre, looking to dissolve the organization.

George Soros spent millions of dollars around the nation to elect state and local prosecutors as part of an on-going campaign to radically transform law enforcement in the United States and weaponize the law to use it against those who won’t go along with the radical-left manifesto.He’s enjoyed success at the county level in Virginia, in Chicago and at the state level in Missouri, New York and California. Jennifer Soros, daughter-in-law of hedge fund manager George Soros was a major donor to James.

New York Attorney General Letitia James announced Thursday that her office has filed a lawsuit against the National Rifle Association and its leadership, including Executive Vice President Wayne LaPierre, looking to dissolve the organization.

George Soros spent millions of dollars around the nation to elect state and local prosecutors as part of an on-going campaign to radically transform law enforcement in the United States and weaponize the law to use it against those who won’t go along with the radical-left manifesto.He’s enjoyed success at the county level in Virginia, in Chicago and at the state level in Missouri, New York and California. Jennifer Soros, daughter-in-law of hedge fund manager George Soros was a major donor to James.

Keeping the NRA and getting rid of WLP would be a good start to putting things back on the right track at the NRA.
Having a way to permanently get rid of the cronyism and corruption that wastes lots of money and de-legitimizes them is also needed.

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Originally posted by RichardC:

A judge said New York's attorney general cannot dissolve the National Rifle Association (NRA) for alleged corruption and mismanagement, but can still seek the ouster of the gun rights group's longtime Chief Executive Wayne LaPierre.

Wouldn't it be wonderfully ironic if she ends up helping us rather than hurting us? (all be it at a high price tag)



I joined the NRA on my own, when I was 13, so a 40 year member now. Though I don't feel like the last 10 or so count because I've set them aside. The organization has clearly lost it's way.

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Originally posted by cas:

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Originally posted by RichardC:

A judge said New York's attorney general cannot dissolve the National Rifle Association (NRA) for alleged corruption and mismanagement, but can still seek the ouster of the gun rights group's longtime Chief Executive Wayne LaPierre.

Wouldn't it be wonderfully ironic if she ends up helping us rather than hurting us? (all be it at a high price tag)

Yep, that would be awesome! Would love to have an NRA that wasn't being used by Wayne as an ATM.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Yes please, Tish...get rid of WLP, and after that - you can suck my balls!

So ... any updates on this lawsuit?

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Originally posted by 220-9er:
Keeping the NRA and getting rid of WLP would be a good start to putting things back on the right track at the NRA.
Having a way to permanently get rid of the cronyism and corruption that wastes lots of money and de-legitimizes them is also needed.

I will not renew my membership or contribute until WLP is gone.

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Originally posted by Edmond:

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Originally posted by 220-9er:
Keeping the NRA and getting rid of WLP would be a good start to putting things back on the right track at the NRA.
Having a way to permanently get rid of the cronyism and corruption that wastes lots of money and de-legitimizes them is also needed.

I will not renew my membership or contribute until WLP is gone.

Same, my money goes to GoA and GunPolicy now.

Just be careful not to cut off your nose to spite your face.

That’s how we ended up with the mess we have in DC. It’s time to stop accepting the lesser of two evils, and especially not among lobbying groups.

The ILA may be a bit harder to take apart, but the NRA should absolutely have its leadership removed, in handcuffs.

Just because the AG is a liberal, doesn’t mean WLP, et Al aren’t crooks.

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Originally posted by Aglifter:
Just because the AG is a liberal, doesn’t mean WLP, et Al aren’t crooks.

But, a well-dressed crook.

"Nice suit. John Phillips, London. I have two myself."

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Originally posted by Edmond:

I will not renew my membership or contribute until WLP is gone.

I am a lifetime member, but if I'm reincarnated, I won't renew if La Pierre is still there.

The absence of the NRA during the 2020 election gave us Biden. That was the goal - tie up the NRA with legal costs and prevent them from advocating for non-commie candidates. It was all a diversion. There is no legal precedent for destroying an organization because of a corrupt self-dealing leader. Prosecute the leader, not the organization.

This is a clear abuse of prosecutorial authority to achieve a political goal rather than justice. And they achieved the goal. The short term goal, that is.