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I don't think "okay with it" is the right way to say it. Maybe it's realizing that the NRA is now reaping what Wayne has been sewing for years. He had to know that the NRA had a target painted on it's back by the liberal establishment for decades. It needed to be cleaner than the newly driven snow, or they'd use any excuse to try to knock it down. And by using it as his private piggy bank, he's given them that excuse.
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People keep saying that, perhaps it's true, has there been any proof offered up? Asking sincerely, was he was stealing money and abusing the rules and laws? if so then he should be on trial not the NRA, but he'd expose the NRA to things like this as well. AG in NY and DC are not filing this to harass gun owners, they are filing it because they think they can win and have the intel. My guess is they've had people inside the NRA for a while, and the timing is perfect with the election coming up... It also drains resources and capital from the association in the days leading up to the election eroding funds set aside to back candidates of the R Party... | |||
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RVF400 it's recommended that you provide a link to written and video posts from outside sources. Jim ________________________ "If you can't be a good example, then you'll have to be a horrible warning" -Catherine Aird | |||
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Unfortunately this guy doesn't get much of the big picture here. Does the NRA have some problems and some housecleaning that needs to be done, probably. But regardless of personal feelings, no NRA would be a very bad thing for gun owners and 2A supporters, which lets not kid ourselves, is the 'real' underlying motivation for Letitia and her cabal. Answer me a question. How hard would it be to go to Washington and find congressman after congressman and senator after senator that have stolen and squandered taxpayer money so they could enjoy the high life? There's an unbelievable amount of hypocrisy on the part of the AG and her office given I could likely find similar abuses of taxpayer funds in her office and bank accounts. ----------------------------- Guns are awesome because they shoot solid lead freedom. Every man should have several guns. And several dogs, because a man with a cat is a woman. Kurt Schlichter | |||
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Just posted an item in the Gun Control board from a post today. NRA has announced that they're going to spend millions this election cycle. I can't help but see a connection between the AG's announcement and this release as an effort to squelch NRA and others. | |||
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Remember this is the same state government that told the NRA their gun owner insurance was illegal, while working on legislation to force gun owners to have insurance. _____________________________________________________ Sliced bread, the greatest thing since the 1911. | |||
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Well the usual way to deal with internal problems with management would be an audit, and prosecution of any wrong doers. Trying to close an organization because of corrupt leadership is pretty silly. Where would that leave the DNC? As for the commies thinking they can win, it is doubtful. They do this crap all the time and rarely expect to win. Look at the impeachment fiasco. They did it to charge their base, and generate negative publicity for their opponents. Calgary Shooting Centre | |||
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If people want to see LaPierre gone, fine, but if they manage to get rid of the NRA, they will have fewer obstacles to their "gun grabbing" wishes. | |||
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I have not read everything, but I've read a lot of it. I will say two things about the claims made by the NY AG: 1) if true, LaPierre is in deep shit, but the NRA will be fine. You can't dissolve an entire organization because 4 leaders were self dealing. The whole "dissolve" is nothing more than a ploy to raise her national profile and get attention. She knows it won't happen. 2) while some of the smaller allegations seem relatively easy to prove, the bigger ones seem a lot harder to prove. Saying LaPierre didn't claim staying on a yacht is easy to do. He either did or didn't; that evidence will be provided in discovery. Saying that an advertising company paid for personal expenses of LaPierre and then billed the NRA for services rendered and buried the personal expenses in there would be much harder to prove. That would require proof on a crime by two very large and very savvy companies. Such proof isn't just left next to the coffee pot. At best it's likely a lower employee of said advertising agency who "heard something about it." Doing such a thing would be incredibly stupid and I can't imagine an executive of a large company allowing it. Also, not that the AG is asking that LaPierre and the other three pay restitution. That would mean they have to pay the NRA the money back. That money doesn't go to NY. Conclusion, Wayne could be super screwed, but the organization will be fine. | |||
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Except there are currently no charges against Wayne. ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan | |||
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| The guy behind the guy |
He's named personally in the suit. It's not a criminal action, it's a civil one. When I say he's screwed, I'm saying he's done, not in jail. My guess is the heat will get so hot, he'll be forced to step down fairly soon after the discovery phase begins. Keep in mind, one of the allegations is that a private company paid for stuff as ridiculous as LaPierre's wife's hair and makeup and then turned around and overbilled the NRA so that the NRA was in essence paying for those services but the money was washed through he private company. even if completely untrue, when the full extent of LaPierre's spending comes out, the pitchforks will be on full display by all sides. I was totally wrong back in April when I said we'd have full stadiums for the start of football season, but I think this is his death nail. | |||
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LaPierre? Suit? Have his tailor defend him. | |||
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Remember the left will lower itself to any level, there is no floor, there is nothing so egregious as to be taboo, there is nothing sacred when you are trying to defeat your political enemy. Civil politics, at least what was historically civil, regardless of belief is gone. Nothing has been done but spreading of innuendo on gun boards, blogs, twutter, flakebook, pinterest etc. So before we hang the man, perhaps have an inquiry, deposistions, discovery and gasp even a trial.... He can wear his suits, they are tax deductible of course, at trial. It smells of political interference, stall anything the NRA can do to help R candidates, if you can get the NRA to drain it's money on legal expenses, because the State of NY doesn't care how far it goes into taxpayers pockets, you might be able to defeat them by beating the coins out of the NRA's wallet... | |||
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Which state is a bigger crap hole. N.Y. or Cal. Absolute liberal sewers. | |||
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I would play the dems game and just frame this as an “attack on the Second Amendment”. The average person doesn’t know the difference. | |||
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Tell ya what. Have LaPierre step down and I'll take his place. Then I'll appoint two more directors to replace the two in question right now. Issue(s) resolved, case closed. And since I don't dig wearing suits, that's one less issue for people to piss and moan about.  Something tells me that in the long run, Letitia would like me and my appointees far less than Wayne and his.----------------------------- Guns are awesome because they shoot solid lead freedom. Every man should have several guns. And several dogs, because a man with a cat is a woman. Kurt Schlichter | |||
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A huge influx of new gun owners and an upcoming election where they may negatively impact the Dems. Yeah, I'm sure the timing is purely coincidental. Meanwhile more NY taxpayer money wasted by the Cuomo administration. | |||
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