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Originally posted by geoffl56:
A huge influx of new gun owners and an upcoming election where they may negatively impact the Dems. Yeah, I'm sure the timing is purely coincidental.

Well, actually, it is coincidental. How could it be otherwise?

Care to explain why you think the increase in firearms sales was planned?

the NRA is just a name, a business. It can reconstitute as another name

I'm in favor of it if it gets rid of WLP and his cronies

I will gladly pay for another life membership just to be rid of him

Well, the silver lining here is that many folks who may have not bothered going to the polls and voting, SURE WILL GO NOW!

Thanks liberal black female prosecutor! You may have just put the final nail in Creepy Joes coffin! Regards 18DAI

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Originally posted by parabellum:

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Originally posted by geoffl56:
A huge influx of new gun owners and an upcoming election where they may negatively impact the Dems. Yeah, I'm sure the timing is purely coincidental.

Well, actually, it is coincidental. How could it be otherwise?

Care to explain why you think the increase in firearms sales was planned?

Sorry if I confused you. I'm saying with a lot of new gun owners from this spring's events and many getting NRA memberships with their purchases it is a timing issue for NY to try to cast the NRA in a bad light prior to the election. Make more sense?

If you want Wayne ousted, you can contact the Board of Directors. From page 72 of the August 2020 issue of American Rifleman:

NRA Board of Directors (or name of an individual Board member)
NRA Office of the Secretary
11250 Waples Mill Road
Fairfax, VA 22030

-or-

nrabod@nrahq.org

-or-

(703) 267-1021

Include your name, contact information & NRA membership ID number. Only communications from NRA members will be forwarded. The names of all Board members are also included on Page 72.

Wayne needs to go. Pampered, ineffectual, half-ass that he is.

For what he's been paid and given over the years he sucks so bad it's almost criminal.

I'm not on both sides of the fence on many issues but I am on this one. I think Wayne needs to retire to a glacier at the north pole, you know, one that's melting. Beyond that, and I mean seeing Wayne AS the NRA, the Association is the big dog; it is the one that drives libbies into frothing frenzies and causes mediapukes to choke on their own elegance.It is the lightning rod for the industry, the the industry associations, as such I want them in the fight.
After all these years I just called in a life membership; it isn't a financial thing, I probably won't collect on enough annual dues to pay it back it is symbolic, financial for the Assoc. and for my own personal commitment. If Wayne drops by membership and picks up my check to buy a new pair of cuff-links, because he didn't pick up someone else's that will keep the other guy keeping the doors open for another minute and a half.

I wish I was more of a Polly-Anna about this but I didn't get fleeced. Eyes wide open.

Another dirty little secret of mine? If they ask for money and offer me a pocket knife I give it to them. It's sort of a payback for the cufflinks.

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Originally posted by geoffl56:

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Originally posted by parabellum:

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Originally posted by geoffl56:
A huge influx of new gun owners and an upcoming election where they may negatively impact the Dems. Yeah, I'm sure the timing is purely coincidental.

Well, actually, it is coincidental. How could it be otherwise?



Care to explain why you think the increase in firearms sales was planned?

Sorry if I confused you. I'm saying with a lot of new gun owners from this spring's events and many getting NRA memberships with their purchases it is a timing issue for NY to try to cast the NRA in a bad light prior to the election. Make more sense?

You may want to slow your roll neighbor. Sarcasm is a language the owner of this forum is fluent in.

My native tongue

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Originally posted by nhtagmember:
I will gladly pay for another life membership just to be rid of him

I understand your disdain for Wayne, but I feel like it's unlikely anyone at the helm of the NRA would be able to motivate me to pay up another life membership. The NRA has just lost its luster with me - for years now. YMMV

Biden's call for a new AWB and taunting that he beat the NRA in 1994 yesterday now doesn't seem so disconnected from reality. I'd surmise he had notice of this filing today by the NY AG and that pronouncement was well-timed.

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Originally posted by parabellum:
My native tongue

Well then I guess I'll need to post here more often!

Well, that's your choice. Mostly

From watching The Tucker Carlson show tonight I think I now believe this lawsuit was specifically planned to occur 'now' by Letitia. Tucker noted tonight that the NRA had planned to contribute $70m during this election cycle. Filing this lawsuit at this time is likely to cause them to pull back most if not all of that money in preparation for this lawsuit. Letitia, though incredibly corrupt, isn't stupid, so she knows the likelihood she can win a case to disband the entire NRA is minimal at best. So instead she sows chaos and attempts to neuter NRA campaign contributions less than 100 days in advance of a national election. That theory fits the current corrupt Dem 'Resistance' playbook perfectly.

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Originally posted by bigdeal:
From watching The Tucker Carlson show tonight I think I now believe this lawsuit was specifically planned to occur 'now' by Letitia. Tucker noted tonight that the NRA had planned to contribute $70m during this election cycle. Filing this lawsuit at this time is likely to cause them to pull back most if not all of that money in preparation for this lawsuit. Letitia, though incredibly corrupt, isn't stupid, so she knows the likelihood she can win a case to disband the entire NRA is minimal at best. So instead she sows chaos and attempts to neuter NRA campaign contributions less than 100 days in advance of a national election. That theory fits the current corrupt Dem 'Resistance' playbook perfectly.

Then it's time for a few folks to send $25 or $50 to offset this blatant attempt to squash us. I definitely will be.

bigdeal, I don't know about that. I can understand someone thinking the NRA has to keep a reserve in case something happens down the line, but how are Leticia and her co-Felicia down in DC going to force the courts to go forward (and therefore start costing the NRA and ILA money) quickly? The election is a little over three months away; if the case can be delayed until near or after the election then there's little or no purpose in pursuing the lawsuit.

Maybe they're hoping the mere existence of these lawsuits will somehow be so scandalous as to cut into fundraising and be politically crippling? Maybe they're just posturing for the donkeys at home?

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Originally posted by 46and2:
Wayne needs to go. Pampered, ineffectual, half-ass that he is.

For what he's been paid and given over the years he sucks so bad it's almost criminal.

Lawsuit talks about Wayne getting millions in side benefits, yacht trips, Bahamas trips, 65 million of free shit to him, all from NRA members pockets.

Dissolve? Fuck that. But Waynegrow needs to go.

While I think the lawsuit is BS, I also feel that WLP has damaged the effectiveness and reputation of NRA.
If he goes, I think a lot of people who have lost interest or outright bailed will return and NRA will have a rebirth.

229DAK

the BoD hasn't the slightest interest in what you and I think

they lost interest in us they day we cast our ballots for the current slate

they're on the gravy train and nothing short of a major lawsuit will move them off the trough

you can write them, but it will fall on deaf eyes - they just don't care

if they did, WLP would have been gone long ago

The members elect the board, the board hires the executive director. Many of the rank and file don't bother to vote, and many who do, consider only those nominees recommended by the existing board, analogous to the "deep state" if you will. Sound like another elected body? Anybody?

Is it possible that WLP is the best the board thinks they can do? We really don't know what choices they have in the matter. He only has to sell himself to a majority of the board, and certainly not the members.

Salary and benefits, including the "lavish lifestyle" non-traditional benefits are not out of line with the executive heads of other non-profits of comparable size and clout, although their CEO's usually try to fly a little more under the radar.

My main concern about Wayne is that by exposing himself so effectively to critics, he implied weakness in the organization. This is why certain elements of our society feel empowered to attack, the (apparently-)weak always get culled from the herd, attacked by the predators, and left for the scavengers. A strong NRA is our best defense against opponents, members showing unity, a common purpose, and support, yes, even to unpopular leaders, is our best, and perhaps our only defense. So bottom line, Wayne has shown poor judgement and does not appear to be suitable to hold the position for which he was hired.

For what it is worth, I feel similar about Ollie North. That his "mutiny" or "whistle-blowing" was premature, and poorly timed. By not promoting an alternative candidate to WLP, and it would have had to have been someone who was unassailable, he didn't leave himself a way out of the corner he willingly worked himself into.

I urge the NRA members here to circle the wagons, not reduce support and contributions, but instead, get involved with the board selection/election process so that we can eventually get executive officers who will vigorously and effectively defend and protect our rights.