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Ok, my butt is a little chapped, and I'm trying to figure it out. Some guy went out of his way to be a "Richard" to me on my way home from work. Login/Join 
delicately calloused
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You were professional to the end. In this life it is the burden of the righteous to endure faithfully the tyranny of the selfish and immoral. Anyone who can consistently do that and maintain dignity has my respect.



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I make it a point, if I make eye contact with an officer, to smile, say hello, but if he or she is busy "pricing cheese", I just keep on going.

Somewhere along the line, very early on, "mind you manners and your own business", was drilled in.

Stay safe and hope the "stupid storm" rains itself out and you have a long spell of "boring clear" for a while.




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Originally posted by KevinCW:
the more I think about it, he really did look too young to be a Vietname vet... If the war ended in '75, that was 42 years ago. Seeing as he would have had to be at least 18 to enter the service, even if he served on the very last day of the war he would have to be 60 years old at the youngest....

He didn't look much older than 50, but looks are deceiving and honestly, I didn't pay him much attention until he was walking away...
They don't require a DD214 to purchase a Vietnam Vet hat so he may well be a stolen valor douchebag.

If not, he wouldn't be the first man whose life the past 40 years has more than tarnished his service in Vietnam (McCain, John Murtha, etc)

BTW, this stuff is great for a chapped butt:



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Well this thread has been informative. First I have a few new options for preventative and treating an chapped ass. Second I would be pissed had I seen a cop doing the same thing, thinking they think they are above the law. Nice to see the other side of the coin. I do think the optics look bad shopping while in the emergency lane, but I'll default to whatever department policy is, if this is what your boss wants then fine by me.

PS I Fucking hate when people use the fire lane as a parking spot. I call them out on it all the time, as well as the dicks that leave their carts in the middle of the parking lot. I once had a mother with three kids curse me out in front of her kids when I pointed out the buggy return corral. I simply told her she gave her kids two lessons in one on how to not be a good human being. She shut up at that point.



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Just tell him tou got a gift card for writing the most tickets above quota this month. Since it was a work related award you get to spend it on duty.


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but if he or she is busy "pricing cheese", I just keep on going.



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"we are on 12 hour shifts. I have worked 11 in a row with no days off, and have had exactly one day off in the past 19."

"Lastly, this store ENCOURAGES us to come in...."

"I wasn't doing a huge shopping trip with a whole cart full."

How many of these would been valid justification for me to be parked there when I came out of the store to find you standing at my vehicle?

If you had to start the thread with all of this justifying, perhaps you shouldn't have been in the fire lane? As it seems to me, you took an advantage not afforded to the general public. What you have written here doesn't change that. You justfied taking this advantage with several excuses that you would dismiss immediately coming from someone else parked similarly had you come upon a car parked there.

Had I seen you price comparing cheese in your uniform while parked in the fire lane I would have had similar thoughts as the grouchy old dude. With that said, I would have let it go as I am not a grouchy old dude and, like SigMonkey, I learned a long time ago to mind my business and not others. Besides, it's not my place to police the fire lane, I am not a cop Wink


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I'd mess with your head, too.

I'd have slid the clerk a $20 and said "That's for the cops stuff."

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Here, people (not cops) park in the fire lanes ALL THE TIME. Frown

If you're on duty and on a call, most people would/should understand.

However, this guy sees you shopping, assumes you are 'off-duty' and taking advantage. Not knowing you're on duty and the reasoning for parking in a fire lane.

Lack of communication/interpretation is a large factor in most arguments. Because people lack the ability to read what the other person is thinking or why they made/took certain actions.




 
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Parking where you did at that time of day, big whoop. Would seem normal to me, I used to work 2nd shift and driving through town at 2:30am there would always be cop cars driving around businesses or parked out front of them.


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Posts: 5567 | Location: Vermont | Registered: March 02, 2002Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Is it OK when the silly firemen park their big red truck there after their morning nap while they shop for their lunch/dinner foodstuff?

What's the difference?

Can an ambulance park there?

Can the cops park there so they can secure the scene so the firemens and paramedics can actually show up?

Firemen...America's favorite 2nd Responders. Roll Eyes Get their own parking spots.

Meh. I had a whopping 2 minutes to run into the grocery store today to grab a quick salad between arresting a drunk that was cussing everyone and a priority accident with 17 people involved (no shit) that I got dispatched to as I was trying to check out. Then I almost got into a wreck in the parking lot because some idiot wasn't paying attention as I left my legal, regular, parking spot.

That's why we like to park in front, so when we get a hot call we don't have to go an extra 100 feet or dodge all the parking lot idiots. That, and the firemen really aren't as special as they think they are. Wink


In my state, others can park in the fire lane for loading/unloading: "Provided, however, persons loading or unloading supplies or merchandise may park temporarily in a fire lane located in a shopping center or mall parking lot as long as the vehicle is not left unattended."




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Originally posted by chongosuerte:
Is it OK when the silly firemen park their big red truck there after their morning nap while they shop for their lunch/dinner foodstuff?

What's the difference?

Can an ambulance park there?

Can the cops park there so they can secure the scene so the firemens and paramedics can actually show up?

1. About 20 feet in length
2. Medical emergency response time is typically considered more critical than police.
3. I would hope you consider where the fire truck will need to be when parking to secure the scene.



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best thing about freedom of speech. It lets you know who the jerks are...


I'll be using that one.

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Grumpy old men...just saying.


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Originally posted by chongosuerte:
Is it OK when the silly firemen park their big red truck there after their morning nap while they shop for their lunch/dinner foodstuff?

What's the difference?

Can an ambulance park there?

Can the cops park there so they can secure the scene so the firemens and paramedics can actually show up?

1. About 20 feet in length
2. Medical emergency response time is typically considered more critical than police.
3. I would hope you consider where the fire truck will need to be when parking to secure the scene.


Keep in mind that I started in the fire service at 17, became a paramedic at 20, and waited until I was 24 to become a cop, which was never the plan, but that's a different story.

I only park in the fire lane when I'm on a call. But let's realize it should be called "emergency vehicle lane", but the paint is cheaper for 8 letters than 20.

And it makes the firemen feel special.




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I have encountered those types a few times during the course of my career. You handled it well. A couple of thoughts for the future. It is easy to lose perspective on how something that may seem ever so slight to you, may be viewed by others. Parking in the fire lane and shopping while on duty are two of those things. Other people don't know ( and may not care) how many hours you have been up or how many days you have worked in a row or what you may have had to deal with. All they see is a law enforcement officer taking advantage of his or her position. Taking that extra moment to park legally might have helped this situation and it might have not.

I don't know what you could have done different as far as the shopping, so as to not antagonize the person, other than not do your shopping on duty or in uniform but that is a judgment call on your part, since you apparently didn't violate your departments policies or procedures.

In the department where I worked, officers also had take home cars and were "technically" on duty until they arrived home and called in that they were going out of service. We had stringent guidelines that were strictly enforced on what officers could do after going off their regular shift and on their way home in the departmental vehicle. I have to say, stopping to do shopping would not have been one of them and likewise, parking your car in a fire lane when not responding to a call would not have been allowed either.

Let me close by saying that perception is everything and there will always be those looking to pick a fight.

Please don't interrupt my remarks as beating you up, as they are intended to be helpful. I had a total of 34 years in law enforcement (Just over 26 with the agency that I retired from) and retired with the rank of captain. No one respects the law or our law enforcement officers more than I do.


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I have encountered those types a few times during the course of my career. You handled it well. A couple of thoughts for the future. It is easy to lose perspective on how something that may seem ever so slight to you, may be viewed by others. Parking in the fire lane and shopping while on duty are two of those things. Other people don't know ( and may not care) how many hours you have been up or how many days you have worked in a row or what you may have had to deal with. All they see is a law enforcement officer taking advantage of his or her position. Taking that extra moment to park legally might have helped this situation and it might have not.

I don't know what you could have done different as far as the shopping, so as to not antagonize the person, other than not do your shopping on duty or in uniform but that is a judgment call on your part, since you apparently didn't violate your departments policies or procedures.

In the department where I worked, officers also had take home cars and were "technically" on duty until they arrived home and called in that they were going out of service. We had stringent guidelines that were strictly enforced on what officers could do after going off their regular shift and on their way home in the departmental vehicle. I have to say, stopping to do shopping would not have been one of them and likewise, parking your car in a fire lane when not responding to a call would not have been allowed either.

Let me close by saying that perception is everything and there will always be those looking to pick a fight.

Please don't interrupt my remarks as beating you up, as they are intended to be helpful. I had a total of 34 years in law enforcement (Just over 26 with the agency that I retired from) and retired with the rank of captain. No one respects the law or our law enforcement officers more than I do.


This is entirely dependent on the agency, as you point out. My old agency only allowed for straight driving to and from work, and omly allowed officers to have take homes within 12 miles of city limits.

My current agency allows take home cars to be used for anything, short of going to a strip club or something similar. Taking kids to school is ok, going grocery shopping, taking the family to dinner, etc., all ok. And the radius is 45 miles/adjoining counties in NC. And it's a big agency. Not that I'd be taking my family out in a marked police car, but just describing how liberal an agency can be with the take home bit.




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You would think if he really is a Vietnam vet (he looked way to young, but who am I to judge him, I have no idea) I would think he of all people would understand being under appreciated and shit on for what he did....

With all of the stolen valor now, and fakers getting VA benefits for minimal or no service, don't be certain he's a vet. Most vets I know don't wear it on their sleeves(or their heads). Kevin, take comfort in two things:
1. He likely treats everyone he knows this way and is probably a miserable, lonely old man. Your life is much better than his.
2. The other man went out his way to offset the jerk. Most Americans respect and appreciate you and what you do.

God bless you, my friend.



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Originally posted by chongosuerte:
Is it OK when the silly firemen park their big red truck there after their morning nap while they shop for their lunch/dinner foodstuff?

What's the difference?

Can an ambulance park there?

Can the cops park there so they can secure the scene so the firemens and paramedics can actually show up?

Firemen...America's favorite 2nd Responders. Roll Eyes Get their own parking spots.

Meh. I had a whopping 2 minutes to run into the grocery store today to grab a quick salad between arresting a drunk that was cussing everyone and a priority accident with 17 people involved (no shit) that I got dispatched to as I was trying to check out. Then I almost got into a wreck in the parking lot because some idiot wasn't paying attention as I left my legal, regular, parking spot.

That's why we like to park in front, so when we get a hot call we don't have to go an extra 100 feet or dodge all the parking lot idiots. That, and the firemen really aren't as special as they think they are. Wink


In my state, others can park in the fire lane for loading/unloading: "Provided, however, persons loading or unloading supplies or merchandise may park temporarily in a fire lane located in a shopping center or mall parking lot as long as the vehicle is not left unattended."


Hey Chongo, I'll share my parking spot with you. Good luck beating us to anything here though, crap the only way the coppers beat us on scene is if they called for us.

That being said I like my brothers in blue and appreciate everything y'all do. However let's face it cops need heroes too.....
 
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One last observation about fire lanes:
I was concerned about keeping them open for an emergency and would ticket offenders. Until there was a small fire in the back of a business in one of my strip malls. The responding pumper arrived and the crew found the fire lane blocked by an illegally parked car.
The pumper was then used to push the car out of the fire lane. To say the least, the bumpers did not exactly match. Seeing this going on, I decided that the situation was well in hand and there were other pressing matters that needed my attention.
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