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We send America's Treasure all over the world to eliminate threats to other nations, Saddam, Osama, etc, yet suffer Soros to live.

He should be hunted down and eliminated before the sun sets on these United States, today.


I have said this before if Soros were to be taken out today he has set up trusts to his organizations that would keep them funded and push his agenda to take us down. You would have to freeze all to the assets of his and of his organizations, yet check it out we the US government are funding and giving money to his organizations.


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Originally posted by corsair:. . . I think there's only a small amount that are savy enough to think that they could be in the ruling group. Most are just enamored with the equality of outcomes theory and believe that such a line of thinking means all human failings like greed and prejudice will be eliminated. Little do they understand that under such a tyrannical framework, those failings actually rise and become the norm. . .


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Silicon Valley is filled with liberal "elitists" who effectively condone socialism. In my experience, most of such claim compassion for the needy, the "lower class". And they believe socialism will take money from those above themselves and give to those below themselves. IE, they appease their conscience with someone else's money and pat themselves on the back. Such elitists believe themselves to be exempt from the disease of socialism.




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Things are heating up in Kenosha. This video was just posted to Twitter, "protesters " armed with an AR leading the march.

https://twitter.com/selfdeclar...056854250180608?s=09


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Almost all discussions I've had people like to cite Denmark, Scandinavians, how Europe does it...yet, they can't account for why those countries still have private property, private industry, banks and stock trading exists, tax sheltering and exceptions exist.


Those nations are not "socialist" (nor Marxist).

Veering a little off topic, but this is important (and relevant), so I'll just leave this here.... Wink



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I’m surprised the Philly area has been reasonably quiet lately.

I do know that the working class neighborhoods around the city have established militias of sorts. It’s mostly guys with bats, or dads who want to release their anger by fist fighting scrawny Antifas 10 at a time. Most of south and north East Philly areas are working class white who don’t mind taking things into their own hands.

Who knows, I’d like to think that’s the reason we’re sorta quiet. We’ll see what tomorrow brings.
 
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Found this while looking for something else. I am shocked, no not that there is gambling at Rick's, but this attempt at investigative journalism by PDX KGW 8.

Interview with retired Assistant U.S. Attorney.

https://www.kgw.com/video/news...d1-bc2d-71aef58239eb


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Was trying to find another investigative piece that PDX KGW 8 had today, but it's not posted on their site yet.

It talks about Portland Police not being fair - favoring the right-wing protestors, by letting them battle with the left during Saturday Day time.

Gee, why would Portland Police perhaps do this? Hmmm?

Guess members of an organization called Proud Boys was there too. Guess these boys have been battling ANTIFA as well known peaceful protest group.

Guess, that discussion we have had on the right wing starting to fight back - physically, as happened at least in Germany of the '20 and very early '30's is starting to happen. Not good.

Here is a short video KGW 8 called investigative reporting on the Saturday event. What a propaganda piece. When I get the other piece I'll post it.

BTW - 2 local PDX channels showed via Ted Wheeler, that Joanne H. dingbat and some other nut case, that these bolsheviks are more concerned about police violence against riot's using violence against LEO's, than about the riot's using violence against LEO's.

How fucked up really are these 'elected' officials in this state? is it in the water - if so I must be inoculated since birth.

https://www.kgw.com/article/ne...67-9e85-a5b66e3d3229


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^^ I'm starting to wonder if going into crisis response mode and constantly being under pressure for a comment, a resolution, or something isn't akin to going into an isolation chamber with a lot of echoes. First Wheeler practially goads the Anqeeufas into attacking, then he "unleashes" the cops on rioters. You'd think he just cut himself off from anyone who was speaking calmly and wound up reacting to whoever else in the bunker panicked the most recently.
 
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I’m surprised the Philly area has been reasonably quiet lately.

I do know that the working class neighborhoods around the city have established militias of sorts. It’s mostly guys with bats, or dads who want to release their anger by fist fighting scrawny Antifas 10 at a time. Most of south and north East Philly areas are working class white who don’t mind taking things into their own hands.

Who knows, I’d like to think that’s the reason we’re sorta quiet. We’ll see what tomorrow brings.

Lots of Italian neighborhoods, particularly in South Philly. Here's one personal anecdote, which shines a light on misbehaving in such 'hoods...

I grew up north of Wilmington, DE, a racially segregated city if ever there was one. I went to the Italian Festival several summers in a row during my teens and remember asking my Dad once why why we never saw/heard about crime in what was basically a giant block party with Carnies. If you lived in SE PA, watching the Philly news at night is like watching a serial TV show about Rape, Murder & Arson so crime naturally comes to mind and its absence is peculiar.

He didn't answer at first but when he did, the reply was cryptic. He pointed to many porches and the Italian ladies, some quite old, outside on their patios knitting blankets. "See those ladies knitting blankets in this heat?"

I thought maybe it was a tradition but sure didn't catch on, until he said "Underneath those blankets aren't pillows my boy. Look closely and you'll see some interesting paraphernalia... clubs, knives and yes, guns."

I thought he was pulling my leg, until ABC Action News a couple nights later reported how two minorities attempted to mug a couple 1 block into the festival and by the time the cops got there, the perps looked like they were run over by a stampede. I'll never forget the policeman commenting on the screen "this is what happens when people are good and ready to answer crime with justice of their own."

No way does someone fetch multiple baseball bats that fast, b/c the perps looked like the Phillies had worked them over. So yeah, I totally believe the reasons we're not hearing much out of certain sections of Philly, possibly the city at-large even, is because there is some no-nonsense people there that won't put up with BS and thugs have been warned by those in the know to not trifle such.
 
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And here’s an Anti-“Vigilante” article from a philly rag. Men defending their neighbors and neighborhoods are obviously racists.

FYI. These men are not racists. Just men who work hard for a living, are patriotic, and believe in taking care of their own neighborhoods. And this local paper smears them by saying they’re assaulting people etc.


https://www.phillymag.com/news...ite-backlash-kenney/

As I scrolled through videos on Tuesday of indignant white men wielding weapons at Marconi Plaza in South Philadelphia, I recalled something Mayor Jim Kenney said earlier this month: “Moving forward, any signs of vigilantism will not be tolerated.”

The Mayor made that bold claim on June 2nd, one day after as many as 100 white men gathered in Fishtown to “protect” police officers and businesses in the neighborhood amid protests over racism and police brutality against Black people — the first of several similar gatherings since.

Some members of the group that met in Fishtown swung baseball bats and hammers as they roamed the streets for hours, projecting a clear air of intimidation. They decried recent citywide incidents of looting and destruction that they associated with the protests — a thinly veiled excuse to get violent themselves. Some altercations were caught on camera by protesters now demanding to know why police didn’t take more action. A WHYY producer who recorded the armed men on his phone tweeted that several of them “beat the shit out of me and pushed my girlfriend” during the evening. He later posted a photo of his bloody face.


Ever since Kenney made his no-tolerance pledge, I’ve wondered how he and the Philadelphia police department would act on that promise. But I’ve yet to see. Meanwhile, in the three weeks since his proclamation, another group of armed white men descended upon the now-covered-up Christopher Columbus statue at Marconi Plaza using decidedly vigilante tactics. (Footage from recent incidents appears to show men at Marconi Plaza punching, pushing, kicking, stomping, burning (with lighters and cigars) and sexually assaulting protesters, the Inquirer has reported.)

These demonstrations aren’t just incidents of “vigilantism”; they’re displays of white backlash. And just as they have in the past, police officers in Philadelphia are allowing these white men to go unchecked while they crack down on those fighting for Black rights.

The only hint of Kenney’s no-tolerance pledge has been the arrest of one man on Tuesday — 58-year-old John Mooney, charged by the District Attorney’s Office with ethnic intimidation, simple assault, reckless endangerment and harassment for allegedly attacking a Black photographer, Mel D. Cole, who was attending a protest calling for the Philadelphia police department to be defunded. Cole posted a video of a punch; for the PPD not to arrest Mooney would be a clear violation. Otherwise, the PPD’s Office of Internal Affairs has said it is investigating various incidents. Kenney’s push on Wednesday to remove the Columbus statue, while correct, doesn’t remedy the fact that another group of violent white men has taken over a public space on his watch. So long as the administration tolerates law enforcement that turns a blind eye to these violent groups, removing the monuments that they “guard” — like the Rizzo statue before Columbus’s — won’t solve or eradicate white backlash. It will only push it from one lightning rod to the next.

The city’s handling of vigilante gatherings raises “serious questions about policing and unequal application of the law in the City of Philadelphia,” District Attorney Larry Krasner said in a statement announcing Mooney’s arrest on Wednesday, noting that “antiracism protesters and journalists have been verbally and physically assaulted, in direct view of law enforcement officers who have — by the numbers — made far more arrests of protesters and journalists than they have of these bat-wielding, assaultive, and threatening individuals. It is no wonder, then, that Americans here and across the country have been marching nonstop since late May, following the murders of George Floyd and Breonna Taylor by police, to demand equal accountability and equal treatment under the law.”

Indeed, the department has highlighted its hypocrisy in its response to protesters. Some officers joked and shared pizza with white vigilantes in Fishtown earlier this month. Others have arrested five reporters attempting to hold them accountable. And still others tear-gassed cornered demonstrators whom the department has yet to prove acted in a violent or threatening manner that would warrant such a move.

I’m still left to wonder what “not tolerating vigilantism” would look like in Philadelphia. Maybe it would look like police officers turning around at protests to face the people who are actually armed and threatening instead of appearing to guard them. Maybe it would look like arresting the men who allegedly beat the WHYY producer. Maybe it would look like Kenney holding a press conference on Wednesday to clearly denounce white backlash after tensions peaked at the Columbus statue on Tuesday, rather than leaving that role to a district attorney who’s become conservatives’ go-to scapegoat for racial polarization in Philadelphia.

These are just some first steps. But instead, for too long, we’ve afforded white men the luxury of being able to evade reckoning for their actions.

Recent vigilante displays recall a history of white backlash in Philadelphia. Some citizens may remember an incident in Southwest Philadelphia in 1985 when roughly 200 white people formed an “angry, mostly young mob” outside a household belonging to a Black man and a white woman, shouting racial slurs and demanding that they and a family that was Black leave the then-mostly-white neighborhood, according to an archived article in the New York Times. Vandals reportedly later broke into and damaged the Black family’s home.

After that 1985 incident, Charles Bowser, a Black Philadelphia-based lawyer and civic leader, told the Times that “there are sort of pockets of racism that exist in our society, and I think that for some time we are going to be faced with the problem of reducing the size of these pockets of racism. … [W]here you have neighborhoods that view themselves almost as families, or as almost quasi-private domains, there’s still strong racial resistance.”

Call these displays what you want: white backlash, vigilantism, pockets of racism. But until we no longer tolerate them, we will remain rooted firmly in the past. After his claim, Kenney is responsible for setting a new tone that condemns white backlash and holds accountable a police department that hasn’t shown that it’s capable of acting on his intentions.

Otherwise, our mayor’s no-tolerance pledge remains an empty promise.

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We know that they meant equality before the law, which translates to equality of opportunity, NOT equality of outcomes or results.

Once you go down that path of equality of outcomes, it inevitably leads to Marxism.


Even Marxism is a lie when it comes to 'equality of outcome.' The dreamers like to pretend that everybody will be equal. Yet, in every demonstrated case (such as the USSR), we saw how 'some animals are more equal than others.' The Soviet people starved and suffered while the Soviet leadership lived in excessive luxury.

The full-retard socialists who want the US to turn socialist imagine themselves to be in the Politburo, ruling from on high, enjoying benefits and power far above that of the masses. They would gleefully welcome a police state, as long as they are in charge of that state (and the police).


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From what I'm hearing on the scanner Kenosha is burning. FD is running fire to fire like the LA Riots, dump the tank, refill, move to the next. They aren't entering any involved buildings.

Police are watching people setting and accelerating fires (adding gasoline). Apparently they are live streaming and the police are picking this all up and know who the suspects are.

Also hearing officers report hearing shots in various areas. Officers being pushed out of areas with thrown objects (rocks & bricks)




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If you lived in SE PA, watching the Philly news at night is like watching a serial TV show about Rape, Murder & Arson so crime naturally comes to mind and its absence is peculiar.

Yeah, you'd hear the Action 6 music, then it would be Jim Gardner doing murder, death, kill.

North and West Philly were involved a few months ago, but you are right that we haven't heard much since.

There was this white kid getting sucker punched at mass. I'm shocked they covered it locally.

https://twitter.com/dpinsen/st.../1298000529092640769
 
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From what I'm hearing on the scanner Kenosha is burning. FD is running fire to fire like the LA Riots, dump the tank, refill, move to the next. They aren't entering any involved buildings.

Police are watching people setting and accelerating fires (adding gasoline). Apparently they are live streaming and the police are picking this all up and know who the suspects are.

Also hearing officers report hearing shots in various areas. Officers being pushed out of areas with thrown objects (rocks & bricks)



Lots of info on Twitter, just search Kenosha. There are also multiple live streams on Facebook and YouTube. It's total chaos, fires everywhere and thugs brandishing weapons. Lots of gunshots heard on the various videos. Saw one video of a local business owner in full battle gear with a long gun running rioters off from a car lot that was being destroyed.


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https://twitter.com/stillgray/.../1298115236222783491

The video at the link above is worth a watch. Business owner tries to argue with some of these idiots and some little girl in the group tells him "we paid for that!" echoing Obama's "you didn't build that." It ends with them telling him they'll burn his stuff down, too.

Escalation on escalation. Something's going to have to give soon.

Here's what he was trying to reason them out of doing:

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90% of Kenosha is nothing but a bunch of hood rats just like in that twitter video. Bunch of degenerates that contribute absolutely nothing to society.
 
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And here’s an Anti-“Vigilante” article from a philly rag.


https://twitter.com/ClaireSasko

Let's see who wrote that.

Uh-huh.


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There is no dialogue with the left.

Don't even try.

You can't reason with mindless commies. They only understand overwhelming force.

I've come to the conclusion that if someone thinks that virtue signaling and pandering will protect their shit, let it burn. They aren't worth the effort and they won't learn a damn thing. Dogs, fleas and all that.

Protect your own when the time comes.


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Kenosha Melts Down As Cars Smashed, Buildings Torched And Looters Run Wild In Second Night Of Unrest

https://www.zerohedge.com/poli...ters-run-wild-second


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What we are facing is a Marxist revolution.

Serious question: Has a Marxist revolution ever been stopped cold, anywhere? Russia, China, Cuba, Venezuela failed to see what was coming and by then it was too late.

Marxists can only be stopped by force because they don't want fair elections and they won't accept the results.


Yes. 1933 Germany. Took drastic measures like concentration camps, but it worked until 1945.

Think I am joking or being flippant?

Read up on Germany 1918-1933, KPD (Communist Part Germany) and the NSAPD battling in the streets


Refer to my post on page 25 of this thread. Most major Western nations have "stopped Marxist revolutions" during the Cold War. Evidence: they didn't turn communist despite considerable support for it from movements widely originating in universities, mass protests, terrorism and street violence. That was definitely true for France, West Germany, Italy, Japan and the UK, and to a lesser degree for others. The only country that took "drastic measures" was Greece, which fought a civil war against communist forces with British and US support from 1944 to 1949 (then had a coup leading to military dictatorship from 1967 to 1974 when centrists were expected to again win that year's election on the pretext that they might form a government with the left; though the real reason might have been that the Greek king was seeking greater constitutional powers, opposed by the centrist government). OTOH Portugal had what could be called a peaceful revolution against a right-wing authoritarian regime in 1974 that started out as a military coup by left-wing officers, but turned into a free-market democracy. All others reacted to the unrest of the 60s-80s with some repression and some reform, as is the strength of democratic systems.

I said it even earlier on the thread, the contemporary US aren't the Weimar Republic. The only way you might make them become it is anticipating its results, and suggest civil war, concentration camps and "eliminating" the alleged Jewish instigators as appropriate means to address the unrest, as people have done on the last couple pages. In fact next time someone asks how people could fall for the Nazis, direct them to this thread; I'm seriously taken aback nobody has disagreed with that. There has been good thougtful stuff posted previously, like by DrDan. I think everybody should read the piece on the nature of insurgencies he linked to in his last post in particular before any further contributions. It would probably improve the signal-to-noise ratio considerably here.

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