Thank you, I figured such.

Not trying to drift this thread; this essay by Bari Weiss speaks to the issues of this thread illustrated by the behaviors and strengths the Ukrainian people and their leadership exhibit. Contrast against the things discussed in this thread:

https://bariweiss.substack.com...rth-fighting-for?s=r

This seemed to be the thread to post this in.

Kind of thinking they are limiting the solution space. Really, the solution exists, they just don't like it.

For the record, I disagree with the term "Gun Violence, but that's how the article is titled.

Portland leaders address gun violence, struggle to find solutions

https://www.opb.org/article/20...tinued-gun-violence/

Exasperated political and community leaders in Portland came together with representatives from local and federal law enforcement for a winding, hourlong press conference Thursday to acknowledge gun violence continues to rise in the city despite efforts to counter it.

“We’re already at 20 homicides for this year, 19 of which are gunshot victims,” Portland police Chief Chuck Lovell said. “For 2022, we’re averaging 21.9 shootings per week…If this trend continues, we’ll end the year with just over 1,500 shootings which would be a 14% increase over last year and a 266% increase over 2019.”

I guess this is a good thread to post this video of Texas Congressman Chip Roy laying out the litany of destructive Democrat policies in Washington and in Democrat run cities across the country.

https://hotair.com/john-s-2/20...ll-shrinking-n458199

Portland

The city is experiencing record levels of violent crime even as it struggles to maintain the lowest number of police officers it has had since the late 80s/early 90s when the population of of the city was much smaller than it is now.

Portland Police Chief Chuck Lovell said for 2022, there have been an average of nearly 29 shootings per week in Portland.

If this trend continues, Chief Lovell says there will be a little over 1,500 shootings this year, which is a 14% increase compared to last year and a 266% increase from 2019.

the police force is now down to 777 officers. No one is saying the words “defund the police” but that’s what this is about.

the consensus in the city and in many other parts of the nation, spurred by progressive activists and Black Lives Matter protesters, was that we could have less crime if we had fewer officers.

n October 2021 Mayor Wheeler announced plans to rehire officers who’d retired. Rehiring those officers wouldn’t require background checks because they had already been checked and had worked for the city. But that effort was a complete failure. After reaching out to 81 former officers, exactly two expressed interest in returning to Portland and exactly zero actually returned

Chief Lovell explained that another wave of retirements was coming this July. He said as many as 80 officers would be leaving the force which would reduce the number of officers close to 700 for a city of nearly 650,000 people.

^^^^
The anti-gun whack jobs will be ramping up
The rhetoric over how evil gun owners are to blame for this. And their mentally I’ll base will flap their flippers in support. They will NEVER admit that leftist policies led to this.

Watching liberals learn is tedious.

Sorry Portland, you made your bed, now it's time to lay in it.

And they're not the only City in that situation.

I have a brother, sisters nieces, nephews, and another generation that live there-forever, since birth for most of the adult second gen. One sold out this week and is moving out. The others are expressing concern and have nothing to do with downtown Portland anymore. I think there is some sadness there too.

I'm not feeling smug either, I don't live in Seattle but I can see it from my house and I wouldn't go downtown for anything I can think of. Getting off the ferry and hauling buns to I-90 east is as close as I get and that's about once a quarter.

It's sad. I loved that city.

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Watching liberals learn is tedious.

Yeah, but it would be just peachy for a change if they could learn that fire is bad without burning all of our homes down too. Mental illness...the true pandemic endangering this country. And for liberals there appears to be no cure.

Portland is at about 1/3rd of what it should be for cops. The Boston Police Department has approximately 2,015 officers and 808 civilian personnel, with patrol services covering an area of 89.6 mi2 (232.1 km2) and a population of 617,594. Roughly the same size city, and Boston is down 500 to 600 cops.

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Watching liberals learn is tedious.

I think they enjoy ruling chaos, they are quite fond of it.
Many were anti-war protesters from the Viet Nam era

Liberals don’t learn. That’s the problem. One needs to admit and acknowledge a problem properly to resolve it. They will never admit their idiotic ways of thinking and policies are directly casually related. So they will do everything but resolve the problem.

I'd like to see portlands tax base, businesses and tax revenue. There's probably a point in the death spiral that's unrecoverable.

Meanwhile in Minneapolis…

I keep thinking that Minneapolis has taken their insanity as far as they possibly can…and then they don’t just double-down, they go all in.

City of Minneapolis resolution commemorates Ramadan, allows broadcasting of Muslim call to prayer

The call of prayer is allowed to be broadcast during the hours of 7 a.m. to 10 pm. during Ramadan, which begins Friday at dusk.

From the above article- I wonder how it would be received if Christian’s sought a permit to do the same with Christmas carols starting December 20th through Chrismas day?

Minneapolis is home to one of the largest populations of Somali and East Africans in the nation.
"To Muslims, it is something that indicates it's almost time to pray, and normally, they rely on apps, or cell phones, but actually hearing it is something that warms the peoples' hearts," he said.

Back in 2020, Mayor Jacob Frey facilitated a noise permit to allow the call to prayer to be broadcast by loudspeaker five times a day in the Cedar-Riverside neighborhood for Ramadan during COVID-19 restrictions.
"For the elders that were living in those towers, to have a sense of community and make it through COVID-19," he said.
Council member Jamal Osman said in a statement posted on Twitter, "The Adhan is one of the most important parts of our faith, and the ability to do it during the day has been in the city's code all along."
The call of prayer is allowed to be broadcast during the hours of 7 a.m. to 10 p.m. Although Ibrahim says its a step in the right direction, he says there's still a long way to go toward full inclusivity.
"We pray five times a day, not three times a day, and we hope that we have recognition by the city that we are including the morning and late night evening prayer, especially with the summer coming up," he said referring to prayers that happen before the 7 a.m. timeframe and after 10 p.m.
"But I think this is an opportunity for groups that feel unheard, to be seen and be heard," he said.
Ramadan begins at dusk on April 1.

{QUOTE - From the above article- I wonder how it would be received if Christian’s sought a permit to do the same with Christmas carols starting December 20th through Chrismas day? {QUOTE}

There are church bells that chime throughout the city, I don’t know their timing. My understanding is that was the catalyst of getting the call-to-prayer thing going.

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{QUOTE - From the above article- I wonder how it would be received if Christian’s sought a permit to do the same with Christmas carols starting December 20th through Chrismas day? {QUOTE}

There are church bells that chime throughout the city, I don’t know their timing. My understanding is that was the catalyst of getting the call-to-prayer thing going.

If true, it is an absurd comparison. Church bells serve to mark the time of day, not offer any kind of religious message- hence my comment about Christmas carols which do convey a religious meaning… much in the same way the Muslim call to prayer is clearly religious in nature. I’m betting that the Islamic community would be outraged by being “forced to endure” such an affront, but think theirs is perfectly fine.

Since the Islamic Call to Prayer sounds like agonized howling in pain to me, I would find it objectionable to be broadcast throughout the city. If limited to just the immediate area around a Mosque it would be OK.

flashguy

A couple of years ago, during the height of the “defund the police” movement, Baltimore stepped up municipal support for a program known as the Safe Streets anti-violence initiative.

the program chose to send out “violence intervention” workers to try to convince gang members to stop shooting each other, along with random members of the community.

The city recently conducted an internal review of the Safe Streets program and the results were published this week. They found the program to be lacking in oversight with the workers not having sufficient training to undertake this dangerous type of intervention. In response to these findings, Mayor Brandon Scott amazingly announced that he would be beefing up the program further with another $10 million

When you’re dealing with members of the gangs of Baltimore, particularly the known triggermen, sending someone out with a clipboard to talk some sense into them is a risky proposition, to say the least. In the past 18 months, three of the “violence intervention” workers have been killed, with the last one being gunned down in January of this year. Also, many of these intervention specialists are former gang members themselves. That sounds great in theory, but you can never be entirely sure how “former” a former gang member is.

Baltimore has seen more than 300 shooting deaths each year for the past seven years.

seven years ago. 2015 Remember Freddie Gray and Marilyn Mosby prosecuting 6 police officers ?

Many of the officers on the streets have complained to union leaders that morale is still low and some of them are not inclined to get out of their squad cars for fear of having Marilyn Mosby try to throw them in jail if a suspect so much as breaks a fingernail during an arrest.