Maybe she was just cold. And he played...

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Originally posted by synthplayer:

The acceptance of adultery is scary to me. The bedrock of a healthy society is reverence for the family - Man, Woman, and children. One need only examine the state of the African-American culture today to understand how important the family is. I'm glad that our society is showing its disapproval.

I agree with prefontaine, that we are not seeing any shift towards disapproval of adultery. Any disapproval we are seeing is from a shrinking portion of adults who disapprove, along with the gleeful nasty internet piling on.

In fact, I think it is a window into the increase in how many people get joy from making other people unhappy.

Studies, while far from decisive, have shown a fairly consistent rate of marital infidelity over the past number of decades. About 1 in every 3 men and women. While this isn't a direct measurement of approval, it seems to me it indicates no increase in disapproval.

I stopped browsing the topic 9 years ago upon separating from my now ex, but my sense from dating and also watching my adult children's generation is that acceptance of non-monogamous relationships and promiscuity is on the increase.

In short, I think we are following Britain towards fewer traditional and faithful marriages.

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Originally posted by Gustofer:

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Originally posted by Prefontaine:
And God states to not judge let ye be judged.

Perhaps the one verse most often taken out of context.

Most certainly.

Now she's gone. Must have taken her longer to negotiate her severance payout.

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Kristin Cabot has resigned from her role as chief people officer at Astronomer, a week after a video of her cuddling up with CEO Andy Byron at a Coldplay concert went viral on social media.

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Good. It wasn’t like she wasn’t playing, too.

It is remarkable how many problems could be entirely avoided by simply keeping your knees together.

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Originally posted by vthoky:

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Originally posted by Plugugly:
It's called human resources because humans are a resource to be strip mined.

Friends and I have talked about this for years, saying, "HR is all about the R, none about the H."

I prefer to describe them with the phrase "Two lies in 1 title" as they're neither human nor a resource.

Every 7 OR 8 years, I come across a good one but 90% of the time it's someone not smart enough or ambitious enough to work for the TSA.

HR is only interested in one thing,

and that is getting more control and hiring more people for HR

I've heard it suggested that a driver's license should be for life, and a marriage license should be renewed - or not - every four years.

Makes more sense to me that way.

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Originally posted by apprentice:
I've heard it suggested that a driver's license should be for life, and a marriage license should be renewed - or not - every four years.

Makes more sense to me that way.

Not a bad idea. That way, people can really reflect on what they want. Hmm

Early in my career, I heard the phrase “Never dip your pen in the company well and don’t get your butter from the same place you get your bread.”

You want to hear a good one about HR?

I was talking to my HR guy late last year asking about the upcoming annual enrollment and if there were any changes I needed to be aware of.

I more or less told him I though our company's health coverage was shit for such a large company, it's a HDHP and we pay a LOT in premiums just to have it then get socked with large bills each time we do use it. Everyone who has a spouse that can get coverage through their job does it that way as the plans are usually far better and cheaper.

I told him that all these large bills for going to doctors and specialists was a financial burden to us especially with me being the sole breadwinner and my wife being a stay at home homeschool Mom. He admitted that it's not great and he doesn't even use what is offered, he's retired AF so he's got TRICARE. I just shook my head and walked away. The HR guy doesn't even use what is offered for health coverage that's how crap it is.

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Originally posted by irreverent:

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Originally posted by apprentice:
I've heard it suggested that a driver's license should be for life, and a marriage license should be renewed - or not - every four years.

Makes more sense to me that way.

Not a bad idea. That way, people can really reflect on what they want. Hmm

Hmmm, Marriage is a Sacrament (at least in the Catholic Church) and a life-long commitment to your spouse...'Til Death Do Us Part!

Honestly while our culture/society has degraded significantly on MANY moral issues including this one, this would be a step wrong direction, and in effect codify such moral degradation even more so. People are supposed to reflect on what they 'really' want BEFORE they get married, NOT during their marriage!

That said, perhaps the comments quoted were a bit 'tongue in cheek', so if that's the case, instead of calling it a Marriage License, maybe it should be called a 'Shack Up Certificate'!

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Originally posted by PASig:
The HR guy doesn't even use what is offered for health coverage that's how crap it is.

I'm familiar with a very similar situation.
Grrr.

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Originally posted by mrvmax:

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Originally posted by Gustofer:

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Originally posted by Prefontaine:
And God states to not judge let ye be judged.

Perhaps the one verse most often taken out of context.

Most certainly.

Link, please?

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retired AF so he's got TRICARE.

That is basically goverment insurance not like blue cross for Federal employees. Many doctors have not been paid in SIX months and are not acceping new Tricare patients. Additionally their allowable rates are well below what other insurances pay. So you get the last laugh.

As a rule Blue Cross Blue shield Federal is a premium plan.

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Originally posted by mrvmax:

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Originally posted by Gustofer:

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Originally posted by Prefontaine:
And God states to not judge let ye be judged.

Perhaps the one verse most often taken out of context.

Most certainly.

That’s fine. Everyone is entitled to have their own belief system. Mine is thus..God is the judge and jury. Out of context or not, that is what I believe and how I live my life. The internet court, the court of public opinion, doesn’t really mean shit to me. God forgives. It’s a damn shame that most people do not. Everyone makes mistakes. Everyone fails. Thank God almighty that he forgives and his son gave away his life for us, to be forgiven. So to see people getting off at someone else’s misery, IMO, well they certainly aren’t acting like good Christian folk. There is more uproar over this stupid nonsense than actual crimes being committed in society. Think of these innocent children involved in this. You sending memes, texts, well that is your sin, and you are putting it on those kids backs. People need to get a life and move on. I’ll leave the judging to God. That’s his business, not ours.

If we are not supposed to judges others, how do we have a jury system?

I believe the statement, "Judge not lest ye be judged" means if you are guilty of a sin, be ready to receive the same judgement you pass on another person who commits the same sin.

We see evidence of this in the story of King David when Nathan confronted him with his sin.

2 Samuel 12

1 And the Lord sent Nathan unto David. And he came unto him, and said unto him, There were two men in one city; the one rich, and the other poor.

2 The rich man had exceeding many flocks and herds:

3 But the poor man had nothing, save one little ewe lamb, which he had bought and nourished up: and it grew up together with him, and with his children; it did eat of his own meat, and drank of his own cup, and lay in his bosom, and was unto him as a daughter.

4 And there came a traveller unto the rich man, and he spared to take of his own flock and of his own herd, to dress for the wayfaring man that was come unto him; but took the poor man's lamb, and dressed it for the man that was come to him.

5 And David's anger was greatly kindled against the man; and he said to Nathan, As the Lord liveth, the man that hath done this thing shall surely die:

6 And he shall restore the lamb fourfold, because he did this thing, and because he had no pity.

7 And Nathan said to David, Thou art the man. Thus saith the Lord God of Israel, I anointed thee king over Israel, and I delivered thee out of the hand of Saul;

8 And I gave thee thy master's house, and thy master's wives into thy bosom, and gave thee the house of Israel and of Judah; and if that had been too little, I would moreover have given unto thee such and such things.

9 Wherefore hast thou despised the commandment of the Lord, to do evil in his sight? thou hast killed Uriah the Hittite with the sword, and hast taken his wife to be thy wife, and hast slain him with the sword of the children of Ammon.

10 Now therefore the sword shall never depart from thine house; because thou hast despised me, and hast taken the wife of Uriah the Hittite to be thy wife.

11 Thus saith the Lord, Behold, I will raise up evil against thee out of thine own house, and I will take thy wives before thine eyes, and give them unto thy neighbour, and he shall lie with thy wives in the sight of this sun.

12 For thou didst it secretly: but I will do this thing before all Israel, and before the sun.

13 And David said unto Nathan, I have sinned against the Lord. And Nathan said unto David, The Lord also hath put away thy sin; thou shalt not die.

David judged another man for the same sin David had committed, and David was judged accordingly.

Judge not lest ye be judged.

The idea that we should not judge the behavior of others in terms of relation to our society is not only preposterous, it's also dangerous, as it means we will allow any sort of behavior. Since we know quite well that depravity has no limits, refraining altogether in the judgment of others means no boundaries whatsoever. Does anyone need the consequences of an amoral society explained to them?

I haven't read this thread closely but I can see there's a debate regarding- essentially- sanctimony. I would suggest to those who are saying that we should refrain from judging those engaged in infidelity, that the sanctimony belongs to you.

As to this specific incident- well, longtime members may have seen me use the term "The Great Unblinking Eye" and that is what we see here. Society at large has seized upon this incident, and once that happens to a person or event, things will simply have to play out. The tide has taken it and there's nothing we can do about it. It's not a matter of should or shouldn't; the ebb and flow of the current will determine matters.