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This was posted in the Illinois Carry forum. They pulled their opposition to a gun licensing bill in Illinois for a carve out for themselves. Very disappointed in these two companies. http://illinoiscarry.com/forum....php?showtopic=65557 | ||
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Oriental Redneck |
Springfield Armory, Rock River Arms Trade Opposition to Illinois FFL Licensing Scheme for Carve-Out John Boch April 27, 2017 Earlier today, the Illinois State Senate passed bill SB-1657 by a one-vote margin. While its prospects are still unsure in the House, if signed by Governor Bruce Rauner, the new law will mandate state licensing for all Illinois gun dealers. It will also restrict all others in Illinois to nine firearm transfers per year. The lobbyist for the Illinois Firearms Manufacturers Association (IFMA), Jay Keller, traded that group’s opposition to the bill in exchange for a carve-out, removing Prairie State firearms manufacturers from the licensing requirements. Two companies provide the bulk of the funding for IFMA: Springfield Armory and Rock River Arms. To be clear, the original version of SB-1657 did not exempt manufacturers from the licensing regulations. At the time, Jay Keller and IFMA opposed it. At a March Senate hearing, however, Keller stated that IFMA would drop its opposition to SB-1657 and go neutral if legislators gave the state’s gun makers a pass. State Senator Don Harmon delivered on his end of the deal with an amendment exempting big box stores and manufacturers from this scheme. With that amendment, IFMA dropped its opposition to the bill, going neutral on the witness slip. That serves as a very public position on a bill in Illinois politics. The bill then sailed through Committee. From there it went to the Senate floor, where it passed by the aforementioned one vote margin (note: at least 30 “yes” votes are required for a bill to pass in the Illinois Senate). I asked both Springfield and Rock River for comment on the then-pending deal with anti-gun legislators. Neither had any comment. Less than an hour ago, Springfield CEO Dennis Reese issued a statement about the IFRA capitulation. We will be publishing that statement in a few minutes in a following post (you can read it here). Springfield Armory and Rock River’s decision to cut a deal on licensing in Illinois — enabling the antis’ desire to control FFL dealer sales — is a dangerous gamble. As we pointed out in our Question of the Day, Smith & Wesson and Ruger paid an enormous price when they sacrificed gun rights on the altar of government “cooperation.” Will there be a similar consumer backlash here, or will The People of the Gun view this as a minor accommodation? We’ll see how this plays in the court of public opinion. Q | |||
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SIGforum Official Eye Doc |
Turncoats. | |||
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Oriental Redneck |
Don't own a Springfield or RRA. Will not own either one. Q | |||
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I own several Springfield firearms. | |||
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I own five Springfield's, won't buy another one either. | |||
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Gracie Allen is my personal savior! |
I've owned firearms from both companies. Fuck 'em both. | |||
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Dances with Wiener Dogs |
Was considering a Springer for a near future purchase. No more. _______________________ “The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws.” Ayn Rand “If we relinquish our rights because of fear, what is it exactly, then, we are fighting for?” Sen. Rand Paul | |||
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Stupid thing for SA to do right as they release a new lineup of pistols. Guess they thought nobody would notice. For lack of a better term they "United" themselves. | |||
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Yep, I planned on getting me another in the next few months, but no more. Looks like FN will get my business. | |||
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Membership has its privileges |
Very disappointing to say the least. Niech Zyje P-220 Steve | |||
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I won't be buying anything from these 2 companies in the future. ____________________________________________________ New and improved super concentrated me: Proud rebel, heretic, and Oneness Apostolic Pentecostal. There is iron in my words of death for all to see. So there is iron in my words of life. | |||
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Looks like their new pistol could be DOA thanks to this. Great move CEO! | |||
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Official forum SIG Pro enthusiast |
If you do partake in social media please do let SA know your feelings on this. These two companies are dead to me. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The price of liberty and even of common humanity is eternal vigilance | |||
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bigger government = smaller citizen |
Of all the dumb fucking things to do. How long did it take Ruger to shake the stigma from their bullshit (whether true or not) from years and years ago?? Good grief. “The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it.”—H.L. Mencken | |||
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Damn it, I was just thinking about getting an XDM 5.25 competition and throwing a Powder River Precision trigger in it. Any one want to sell me a Sig X5? _________________________ "Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." Mark Twain | |||
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I really wanted a Socom 16, now SA can shove that rifle up their ass. I only interacted with the company once and while the interaction was not pleasant I didn't harbor animosity against the company due to one asshole employee. This is different. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The price of liberty and even of common humanity is eternal vigilance | |||
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Nullus Anxietas |
One would've thought they'd have known better after S&W's experience. "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe "If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher | |||
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I guess CEO's as a breed just ain't too bright. Wonder if they'll get mooned at the NRA convention? _______________________ “The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws.” Ayn Rand “If we relinquish our rights because of fear, what is it exactly, then, we are fighting for?” Sen. Rand Paul | |||
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