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Strong work Ramius! I’ve seen posts from individuals describing their rights to be Covid free supersede everyone else’s right to live their life and function as a normal American. Sadly some of them are medical professionals as well and they like to throw out how they must care for those that are ill. I like to remind them of their Hippocratic oath. As a trauma surgeon I don’t pick and choose my patients. Whoever rolls through the door gets my best effort whether they’re the drunk who crashed their car or person recklessly driving an off-road vehicle or whatever the case may be. It really saddens me sometimes to see people who I know are intelligent to be so ignorant. CPD SIG, thank you for your service and common sense approach as well as all the other LEOs who fight this battle daily along with a million other issues you must deal with each day. Stay safe! Lord knows I could never do the job you guys do! Build a man a fire and keep him warm for a night, set a man on fire and keep him warm the rest of his life. | |||
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Great job RAMIUS. Do you have a go fund me for legal representation? I’ll contribute. | |||
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I’m in for a defense/attack fund! | |||
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You have made some excellent points! October will be he before you know it. Be safe and "Fire Pritzker"! _________________________ | |||
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You made my day with this, thanks. | |||
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Yep.. This is the only way to put an end to this. Police would be too overwhelmed to do anything about it. Strength in numbers | |||
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Some good points have been made however let me address this,” Kimber, you found out ONE INCIDENT”. No there are many incidents, and that is where the trust begins to deteriorate. I don’t believe it is necessary to post additional incidents, but they are easy to find. “We’re in a situation where we have put together, and you guys did it for our administration…President Obama’s administration before this. We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics,” Pres. Select, Joe Biden “Let’s go, Brandon” Kelli Stavast, 2 Oct. 2021 | |||
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I know that you are right about this. Regrettably, it's the same with all screwups; a little bit of "bad" often overshadows a universe of "good". Bellmawr didn't appear have any trouble finding enough officers on their force to staff up the cuff-and-stuff squad. I have great respect for those of you, both line cops and leaders, who maintain the high standards and faithfulness to your oath that you describe in the face of negative pressure from your politicians and public. For you guys, I hope the job does not seem thankless. Part of the anger that we all feel is that accountability is so divorced in time from the offending action. This will either be dismissed when the fever breaks, or it will take two years to go to trial. At that point, no one but RAMIUS, us, and a few activists will give a damn. The world will have moved on. In the moment, I want to huck a Molotov Cocktail through the station house window and skewer the command staff on pitchforks when they run out. The consequences for RAMIUS are personal and immediate; for the beat cops, command staff and politicians the consequences are diluted and deferred. I want to see the state, and its enforcers, get the same symbolic beat-down that they just gave RAMIUS right now, but I'm kind of a hot-head that way. If I were a local, I would be in the parking lot when the gym opens today, and hope that 5000 others joined me. Continued pressure and continued defiance are necessary now. As for "Fatman and Little Boy"; thanks! You are going to hell for that one, but you'd better save me a seat because I laughed HARD! "I vowed to myself to fight against evil more completely and more wholeheartedly than I ever did before. . . . That’s the only way to pay back part of that vast debt, to live up to and try to fulfill that tremendous obligation." Alfred Hornik, Sunday, December 2, 1945 to his family, on his continuing duty to others for surviving WW II. | |||
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my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives |
There is no such thing, Brown v. Texas,443 US 47 (1979) outlawed that practice more than 40 years ago. given that, if the NJ statute on imposition of stupid regulations indicates that you can be arrested for violating stupid regulations, then a fail to ID arrest would be permissible under Brown (Note that I have NO IDEA what the law in New Jersey says, and have no inclination to go there) I also work in a state where the governor, courts, legislature and, most importantly, THE PEOPLE dont want anyone arrested for this sort of thing, and our orders have an exemption for eating or drinking, so it gives the officer discretion to allow the citizen to indicate that he might go buy a beer to correct his non compliance, so it never comes up here. The people of NJ have elected a bunch fools who have for at least 30 years that I can remember, have trampled on the rights of their own citizens, who insist on reelecting them (so apparently they like it), so what did anyone expect? ***************************** "I don't own the night, I only operate a small franchise" - Author unknown | |||
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Thanks, car541, for that. It’s another one of those things that everyone should understand.
If they don’t want to end up being pilloried by public opinion and worse to the point of having their lives ruined, there are countless things that anyone with the sense of a turnip wouldn’t say out loud to anyone, much less post on the Internet. And anyone who hasn’t seen countless examples of why that’s true in this day in age must be less perceptive than a turnip. ► 6.4/93.6 “It is a habit of mankind to entrust to careless hope what they long for, and to use sovereign reason to thrust aside what they do not desire.” — Thucydides; quoted by Victor Davis Hanson, The Second World Wars | |||
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According to this there is no such law in New Jersey https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...nd_identify_statutes I'm alright it's the rest of the world that's all screwed up! | |||
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Wait, that's a crime now? I must have missed that in our latest Legislative Update class. Damn... I better stay indoors. | |||
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When arresting a belligerent drunk who demanded to know why he was being arrested, a guy I worked with would say.... Ugly in Public. At traffic accidents where rubberneckers were holding up traffic, he would threaten to charge them with Highway Gawkery. He used the terms so often even I began to think they were legit. End of Earth: 2 Miles Upper Peninsula: 4 Miles | |||
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Could he be charged with Mopery On The High Seas? הרחפת שלי מלאה בצלופחים | |||
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Arlo Guthrie's song, "Alice's Restaurant" >> "And they was usin' up all kinds of cop equipment that they had hangin' around the Police Officer Station. They was takin' plaster tire tracks, footprints, dog-smellin' prints and they took twenty-seven 8 x 10 colored glossy photographs with circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one explainin' what each one was, to be used as evidence against us. Took pictures of the approach, the getaway, the northwest corner, the southwest corner. And that's not to mention the aerial photography!" He said, "Kid, what'd you get?" I said, "I didn't get nothin'. I had to pay fifty dollars and pick up the garbage." He said, "What were you arrested for, kid?" and I said, "litterin'." And they all moved away from me on the bench there, .. till I said, "and creatin' a nuisance." And they all came back, shook my hand, and we had a great time... ETA: I sent some support to your gofundme account. https://www.gofundme.com/f/mk6...ellmawr-court-relief | |||
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And based on everything I saw so far of the outlaw Ramius getting pinched, it looks like it was all a dog and pony show. It appears he was removed to the station just to be issued appearance citations. Which could have been done right there in the parking lot. How about it, Ramius, were you mugged, printed and booked into jail? Or cited and released? Since he was an out of state resident and "Obstruction" was the charge, my court would have required him to be jailed pending posting of bond, not cited and released. End of Earth: 2 Miles Upper Peninsula: 4 Miles | |||
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The governor got his panties in a twist and threw his little hissy fit because everyone ignored him so this was his petty retaliation. Has anybody heard about attendance today? Like some have said already, a huge crowd should turn out today at the gym to give him a big F..U | |||
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Indiscriminate behavior, mopery, immoral provocation, and idleness. | |||
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Sounds like a good time! "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe "If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher | |||
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