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Originally posted by reloader-1:
Mars, even if China only has 500 million people, they have an utter chokehold on the world in production. So many supply chains just don’t exist without China… they’ve done that intentionally.

Even the most ardent US first patriots have discussed China and the impact, we will have a fight for the very existence of the US at some point… and I pray that we come out the victor.

We shut China down with just cutting off the oil they aren't getting from Iran, or Russia. Ukraine just stopped all exports.

There's a reason we took Venezuela and took Iran down.

We control the oil now. Even though all trade goes through GB, we control the shipments now.

China is a paper tiger.

Yeah, you neglected to mention they have 1.6 billion barrels of oil stockpiled, and can get crude directly from Russia.

They use 8m a day over what they produce or get via pipeline, and they would be able to ramp down a lot of that consumption on a war footing.

They control:

Rare earth elements and permanent magnets
Semiconductors, electronics manufacturing, and printed circuit boards
Battery materials and lithium-ion batteries
Critical mineral processing (graphite, tungsten, antimony, magnesium)
Active pharmaceutical ingredients
Industrial manufacturing and machine tools

While being the largest shipping, vehicle, drone, and weapons manufacturer on the planet. Containerized weapons delivery systems would turn a day 1 attack into a global nightmare.

Russia can't even satisfy its own needs for crude, much less spare any to China.
China's economy depends on export. China has extreme internal political problems.

As for their semiconductors and rare earth products, we have our own along with the now new discoveries in Europe ind Australia.

One spot in the US controls 100% of the semiconductor grade silicon. Without it, they got nothing. Look up the Spruce Pine Quartz Mines. Any positive news out of China is propaganda.

“As Ukrainian attacks continue to hammer away at Russia's critical infrastructure, Vladimir Putin's allies are pushing him to consider the unthinkable.

The battlefield humiliations have grown so profound that Kremlin hardliners are lobbying their leader to deploy nuclear weapons, against both Ukrainian frontline positions and European nations lending their support to Volodymyr Zelensky.

The tipping point before Putin chooses the deadly escalation would be the loss of the cherished Crimea, according to experts, where authorities recently declared a state of emergency. 

Speculation is mounting that Ukraine's next target will be the 12-mile Crimean Bridge – bombed several times already but still standing. 

A decisive blow to the highly symbolic feat of architecture could compound Putin's fears that Russia is facing a threat to its territorial integrity, propelling him towards escalation.

The 73-year-old dictator was forced to swallow his pride and admit for the first time last weekend that his country is suffering from gas shortages, as Kyiv relentlessly pummels logistics chains and oil facilities.

Amid a crumbling economy and surging soldier fatalities, Russians are becoming more outspoken with their criticism of the Kremlin, from distressed influencers weeping online about not being able to locate petrol, to disgruntled war veterans. …”

https://mol.im/a/15941721

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Originally posted by Pipe Smoker:
“As Ukrainian attacks continue to hammer away at Russia's critical infrastructure, Vladimir Putin's allies are pushing him to consider the unthinkable.
https://mol.im/a/15941721

Some have suggested that Russia and China are "paper tigers". They are far from it. A nuclear exchange between the 3 main players in this game would be devastating for the entire planet.

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As for their semiconductors and rare earth products, we have our own along with the now new discoveries in Europe ind Australia.

Please point me to a good U.S. source for industrial grade magnets.

We have raw materials, but the processing takes place in… yep, China.

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Originally posted by vthoky:

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As for their semiconductors and rare earth products, we have our own along with the now new discoveries in Europe ind Australia.

Please point me to a good U.S. source for industrial grade magnets.

We have raw materials, but the processing takes place in… yep, China.

Why did you purposely omit the fact WE control the world's supply of silicon?

We can make magnets if we remove the EPA and any environmental repercussions. Yeah, China is destroying their environment.

Keep betting against us.

Everything about China is tofu dreg. The earthquake in Argentina proved that along with Iran's super duper "air defenses".

China can't produce shit without supplies from the rest of the world.

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Originally posted by vthoky:


Please point me to a good U.S. source for industrial grade magnets.

We have raw materials, but the processing takes place in… yep, China.

LOL, do you not know how to use google?

MP Materials: The only scaled rare earth producer in the US, mining ore in Mountain Pass, California. They manufacture high-powered magnets at their facility in Fort Worth, Texas.

USA Rare Earth: Operating a mine-to-magnet pipeline, they produce sintered Neodymium (NdFeB) permanent magnets with prototyping and production facilities in Stillwater, Oklahoma, and are building a $1.2 billion facility in Cherokee County, South Carolina.

Keep cheering for the enemy.

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Originally posted by Mars_Attacks:
The EU aren't our friends or allies even either.

I guarantee you Russia will be the "good guys" WHEN they supply weapons to the populations fighting back against the muslime invasions their governments are forcing upon them.

Our only true ally is Poland at this point.

Neither is Ukraine, nor Zelenskyy et al.

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Originally posted by nhracecraft:

Neither is Ukraine, nor Zelinsky et al.

Add Israel to the list.

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Originally posted by nhracecraft:

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Originally posted by Mars_Attacks:
The EU aren't our friends or allies even either.

I guarantee you Russia will be the "good guys" WHEN they supply weapons to the populations fighting back against the muslime invasions their governments are forcing upon them.

Our only true ally is Poland at this point.

Neither is Ukraine, nor Zelenskyy et al.

Who exactly fucked that possible relationship up?

^^ Well we did basically (the US.gov under Obama et al, the EU and NATO), going all the way back to 2014, when the U.S. State Department orchestrated a coup in Ukraine, and laid the foundation for EVERYTHING that's occurred since then!

I'm of Ukrainian heritage. I feel for the Ukrainian people (and only the people!) as much as anyone. This war (and all the unnecessary death(s) on both sides!) has gone on FAR too long, and cannot end soon enough!

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the US.gov under Obama et al, the EU and NATO, going all the way back to 2014, when the U.S. State Department orchestrated a coup in Ukraine, and laid the foundation for EVERYTHING that's occurred since then!

Yes... Obama's State Department really screwed this up... and the Biden crime family cashed in and participated in all of the corruption.
Ukraine has been a hot mess for a long time, and the US (Democrats especially) is deeply involved.