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Zelenskyy will be told to sit down and shut up.

More likely told o go make some sandwiches.

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Ukraine has received less than half of US assistance allocated during full-scale war, Zelensky says

Maybe he should install a Ring system and check for porch pirates.

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Ukraine has received less than half of US assistance allocated during full-scale war, Zelensky says

Maybe he should install a Ring system and check for porch pirates.

Wouldn't that result in self-incrimination?

At what point, since the Soviet Union break-up, has Ukraine NOT been corrupt?

This idiot wants nuclear weapons?

Zelensky Says Ukraine Needs Nuclear Weapons if No NATO Membership on The Table

https://www.breitbart.com/euro...-nato-says-zelensky/

Ukraine would need a million-man army, including contingents of soldiers from allied nations, a nuclear deterrent, and batteries of advanced missiles to deter future Russian aggression if it isn’t allowed to join NATO, President Volodymyr Zelensky has said.


Zelensky: Russia Has Suffered Almost Eight Times More Combat Deaths Than Ukraine

https://www.breitbart.com/euro...deaths-than-ukraine/

Russia has experienced around one million casualties following its invasion of Ukraine, President Volodymyr Zelensky said while asserting it was twice as many as suffered by Ukraine and with an even greater ratio when counting just fatalities.

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The West doesn’t get parts of Russian culture.

Russia views combat deaths as a plus - war is how Russian genocides the “undesirables” while proclaiming its “glorious history.”

Russia is wildly incompetent at war. Always has been, as far as I know - but it has an overly Romantic/Poetic culture, and lots of gallant deaths, so long as it’s not people who count, fuel that culture.

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The West doesn’t get parts of Russian culture.

Russia views combat deaths as a plus - war is how Russian genocides the “undesirables” while proclaiming its “glorious history.”

Russia is wildly incompetent at war. Always has been, as far as I know - but it has an overly Romantic/Poetic culture, and lots of gallant deaths, so long as it’s not people who count, fuel that culture.

I get that part of the Russian culture. I really do. I don't want to pay corrupt Ukrainian ass wipes that can't account for $100,000,000,000 in welfare payouts to fight incompetents. Simple as that, easy peasy.

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Zelenskyy will be told to sit down and shut up.

More likely told to go make some sandwiches.

This deal will be presented to Zelensky and the EU as "take it or leave it." When they say no, that will let Trump say, "OK, you guys do it," and wash his hands of Ukraine.

Trump To 'Force' Zelensky To Agree On Ceasefire By Easter According To Alleged Leaked Peace Plan

As of the start of this week, the Kremlin said 'no progress' had been made in arranging peace talks on Ukraine between Moscow and Washington. Rumors and speculation abound, given that US diplomats under Trump are without doubt working behind-the-scenes to arrange something, with the possibility that talks could be hosted in a 'neutral' location like Saudi Arabia or the UAE.

A Thursday Daily Mail report has just added immense fuel to the fire of speculation, presenting the allegedly leaked Trump ceasefire plan which he intends to present for Russia's consideration. The report says Trump will try to 'force' Ukraine's President Zelensky to agree to a ceasefire by Easter, which is on April 20 this year.

The Trump administration is seeking to end the war within 100 days. "The unconfirmed plans, reported by Ukrainian outlet Strana, have been doing the rounds in 'political and diplomatic circles' in Ukraine, and will include a ceasefire by April 20 that would freeze Russia's steady advance, a ban on Ukraine from joining NATO, and a demand for Kyiv to accept Russian sovereignty on annexed land."

While still very much unconfirmed, the headline is having an immediate impact on oil prices. Zelensky's office has vehemently denied the legitimacy of reports of the peace plans being reported and floated.

On top of these alleged key aspects of a ban on NATO admission, freezing the front lines, and agreeing to Russian sovereignty over the four annexed territories in the east, the leaked report says the following is also included in the proposal:

On top of this, Ukrainian troops will be made to leave Russia's Kursk region, where it launched a counteroffensive in August, while a contingent of European soldiers, which could include British troops, would be asked to police a demilitarised zone. American troops will not be involved in this contingent.
The EU will reportedly be asked to assist Ukraine in its reconstruction efforts, which may cost as much as $486billion (£392billion) over the next decade according to the German Marshall Fund thinktank.

The plans will reportedly begin with a phone call between Zelensky and Vladimir Putin in early February, a meeting between the two warring leaders in late February to early March and an official ceasefire declaration of a ceasefire by April 20.
A declaration on the agreed parameters for ending the war would then be released by May 9, after which Kyiv would be asked not to extend martial law or mobilize troops.

This essentially gives Moscow most everything it wants - particularly the ban on NATO admission - and so if true the plan is likely to be entertained positively by Putin.

Zelensky has been complaining that talks about Ukraine between the US and Russia must never happen without Kiev's representation and input, but Zelensky it seems is being left behind. He'll likely reject the above 'leaked' plan, but for Moscow and Washington that probably won't matter too much.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geop...ed-leaked-peace-plan

France Hands Over First Mirage Fighter Jets to Ukraine

https://www.breitbart.com/euro...tm_campaign=20250206

At this point I think that Putin is just as likely to reject the plan as Zelensky. Especially considering events in the last few days. Ukraine has opened up a new front and so far they have been successful. Even Putin is publicly admitting that Ukraine is doing well. So if the plan calls for a cease fire with everything frozen in place, I don't see Putin being okay with that.

https://www.theguardian.com/wo...-mount-new-offensive

On another forum a member posited that much of Ukraine's critical minerals are under Russian control.
The other large deposit was in Afghanistan, but, China has moved in there.

Might shed some light on both debacles if true

https://www.france24.com/en/tv...ex-spokesperson-says

'Majority' of Ukrainians want ceasefire with Russia, Zelensky's ex-spokesperson says

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At this point I think that Putin is just as likely to reject the plan as Zelensky. Especially considering events in the last few days. Ukraine has opened up a new front and so far they have been successful. Even Putin is publicly admitting that Ukraine is doing well. So if the plan calls for a cease fire with everything frozen in place, I don't see Putin being okay with that.

https://www.theguardian.com/wo...-mount-new-offensive

They’re “doing well?”

They’re out of troops and about to start forcing everyone, young and old into service feeding that meat grinder.

Proof once again, The Fear of the Russians proves to be a paper tiger. Their fearsome Tank force was decimated in Iraq and now the Ukraine is kicking their ass, albeit with mostly USA support.

"They’re “doing well?”

"They’re out of troops and about to start forcing everyone, young and old into service feeding that meat grinder."

There is no question that Ukrainian casualties have been significant. However, speaking of meat grinders, if you google Ukrainian vs Russian casualties, Russian casualties far outnumber Ukrainian casualties. Russians are staffing their Army with rapists, murders and thugs of all sorts released from their jails. Why, because Putin doesn't want to draft the children of the oligarchs around Moscow for fear of a backlash from the Russian elite. And lets not forget the North Koreans. Their losses have been massive. In fact, apparently they cant tell the difference between the Ukranians and the Russians. They were withdrawn after several "friendly fire" incidents where the Koreans killed Russian Troops. Lets not forget the the Russian Navy has basically abandoned the Black Sea due to Ukrainian sea drones.

Here are some recent figures:

Russian losses in the war:

Personnel: About 847,860 Russian troops were eliminated from February 24, 2022, to February 8, 20251. According to U.S. assessments, Russian casualties in the war so far number as many as 615,000, with 115,000 Russians killed and 500,000 wounded.

Tanks: 9,981 tanks were lost from February 24, 2022, to February 8, 2025

Armored personnel vehicles: 20,777 armored personnel vehicles were lost

Artillery systems: 22,820 artillery systems were lost
MLRS: 1,273 multiple launch rockets systems were lost

December 2024: Russian forces suffered 48,670 casualties, their highest monthly casualty rate since the start of Russia's full-scale invasion.

There are going to be no “winners” in this conflict; just who outlasted/exhausted the other. It’s a repeat of the Somme/Verdun (1916), but with higher tech weaponry.

This guy is either going to be paid to go away or will be swinging like Mussolini but he has no interest in giving up power legitimately or peacefully.


https://x.com/ChrisStigall/status/1889022294866968715

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This guy is either going to be paid to go away or will be swinging like Mussolini but he has no interest in giving up power legitimately or peacefully.

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This guy will be swinging like Mussolini

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This guy is either going to be paid to go away or will be swinging like Mussolini but he has no interest in giving up power legitimately or peacefully.

It is crazy that this guy is still alive. He ripped off the U.S. people, and killed off his own citizens, and equally crazy there are still folks in this country that still supports this insanity.

Swinging like Mussolini is too kind of a gesture.