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Originally posted by 2012BOSS302:
Harvard Law School Professor Alan Dershowitz has also described the push by left-wing psychiatrists to remove Mr Trump as “very dangerous”.

“That’s what they did in Russia. That’s what they did in China. That’s what they did in apartheid South Africa,” he told Fox News. “How dare liberals, people on the left, try to undo democracy by accusing a president of being mentally ill without any basis.

“The 25th Amendment doesn’t apply. Everybody knew who Donald Trump was when they elected him ... he hasn’t changed in office and this idea of diagnosing him instead of opposing him politically poses an enormous danger to our democracy.”

I like Prof. Dershowitz--he's a solid Liberal in his views, but he is also a staunch supporter of the Rule of Law, wherever that leads. Another one is Jonathan Turley, and I also respect him a lot. It takes great character to speak out against bad conduct when done by those with the same political leanings one has, just because it's the right thing to do.

flashguy

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“The 25th Amendment doesn’t apply. Everybody knew who Donald Trump was when they elected him ... he hasn’t changed in office and this idea of diagnosing him instead of opposing him politically poses an enormous danger to our democracy.”

Republic, it poses an enormous danger to our REPUBLIC....

from a previous post about Strzok and Page texts,

In one exchange, FBI counterintelligence agent Peter Strzok and bureau lawyer Lisa Page engaged in a series of texts shortly before Election Day 2016 suggesting they knew in advance about a Wall Street Journal article and would need to feign stumbling onto the story so it could be shared with colleagues.

“Article is out, but hidden behind paywall so can’t read it,” Page texted Strzok on Oct. 24, 2016.

“Wsj? Boy that was fast,” Strzok texted back, using the initials of the famed financial newspaper. “Should I ‘find’ it and tell the team?”

The text messages, which were reviewed by the Hill, show the two FBI agents discussed how they might make it appear they innocently discovered the article, such as through Google News alerts.

“I can get it like I do every other article that hits any Google News alerts, seriously,” Strzok wrote, adding he didn’t want his team hearing about the article “from someone else.”

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so what was the article ?

went to the WSJ archives and this was the only obvious story it might be on either 23 or 24 Oct 2016:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/t...curiouser-1477352522

The FBI’s Clinton Probe Gets Curiouser


Hillary Clinton may win the election in two weeks, but the manner of her victory will bedevil her in the White House. Specifically, evidence keeps turning up suggesting that the FBI probe into her emails was influenced by political favoritism and double standards.

The latest news is the Journal’s report Monday that Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe, a longtime friend of Hillary and Bill, steered money to the campaign of the wife of a top FBI official. Political organizations under Mr. McAuliffe’s control gave more than $675,000 to the 2015 Virginia state Senate campaign of Jill McCabe, the wife of FBI deputy director Andrew McCabe.

Mr. McCabe, director James Comey’s right-hand man, helped oversee the probe into whether Mrs. Clinton mishandled classified information on her server.

...

so the story Strzok and Page knew was coming was the WSJ story about McCabe's wife being financed by Terry McAuliffe. So how did they know ?

Feinstein releases the testimony of Simpson (Fusions GPS) to Senate Judiciary Comm on 22 Aug 2017

https://www.feinstein.senate.g...nscript-redacted.pdf


long read. Simpson won't identify the "client" who we now know is Clinton thru her lawyers.

this is a long read and I am a slow reader.
A lot covered. I believe the essence of the recommendations to prosecute Steele are in this testimony. But it is a lot to digest.

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Stephen Bannon has stepped down as executive chairman of the pro-Trump, populist website Breitbart News, less than a week after a dramatic falling out with President Trump.

Breitbart announced the news Tuesday afternoon on its website, saying it would work together with Bannon on “a smooth and orderly transition.”

“I’m proud of what the Breitbart team has accomplished in so short a period of time in building out a world-class news platform,” Bannon said in a statement on the site.

“Steve is a valued part of our legacy, and we will always be grateful for his contributions, and what he has helped us to accomplish,” Breitbart CEO Larry Solov said.

A source at Breitbart told Fox News that staffers were told after news of Bannon's departure broke that “we will continue doing what we do as well as anybody in the world, and that is report the news.”

Last week, Trump issued a blistering, four-paragraph takedown of Bannon, after the former adviser was quoted in a new anti-Trump book speaking ill of members of the president’s family.

Story continues.....

Link

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I like Prof. Dershowitz--he's a solid Liberal in his views, but he is also a staunch supporter of the Rule of Law, wherever that leads

Dershowitz is a classical liberal, the liberalism that was formed in the '40s and '50s, and it's very different from today's leftists and progressives. They were staunch defenders of the First Amendment, most of them were strong supporters of the Second Amendment, they were pro-military, for lower taxes and smaller government-- if you listen to some of the speeches of John Kennedy, he sounds like someone who would now be on the right.

Di Nero has turned out to be a complete, blathering moron. I will try not to let this destroy my enjoyment of The Godfather. And he is here giving an award to Meryl Streep, who, like Oprah, probably pimped for Weinstein.

I include the link just to be thorough. If you don't want to give The Daily Mail a click, it's just a foul-mouthed, juvenile, pointless series of insults of Donald Trump.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new...ump-rant-awards.html

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Originally posted by justjoe:
Di Nero has turned out to be a complete, blathering moron.

They play "dress-up" for a living. A child's game. The fact that their opinions and comments raise anyone's ire one iota is pretty nutty in and of itself.

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Originally posted by justjoe:

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I like Prof. Dershowitz--he's a solid Liberal in his views, but he is also a staunch supporter of the Rule of Law, wherever that leads

Dershowitz is a classical liberal, the liberalism that was formed in the '40s and '50s, and it's very different from today's leftists and progressives. They were staunch defenders of the First Amendment, most of them were strong supporters of the Second Amendment, they were pro-military, for lower taxes and smaller government-- if you listen to some of the speeches of John Kennedy, he sounds like someone who would now be on the right.

Here is a very interesting article about the term “liberal” and how it has been understood over the centuries. Link

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Originally posted by Veeper:

quote:

Originally posted by justjoe:
Di Nero has turned out to be a complete, blathering moron.

They play "dress-up" for a living. A child's game. The fact that their opinions and comments raise anyone's ire one iota is pretty nutty in and of itself.

DiNero has attacked Trump several times before, in exactly the same mindless way: just hurling obscene insults. I'm sure DiNero has no grasp of any political issues at all. He doesn't think he needs them. His judgments, you know, are what the world stands breathlessly to hear.

I'd love to see someone call him out and ask him for specific criticisms of Trump's policies. Questions about history would be especially amusing.

Moron.

There is a lot to the testimony of Glenn Simpson to the Senate staffers of the Sen Judiciary Comm.

Transcript:
https://www.feinstein.senate.g...nscript-redacted.pdf

Some observations:

Glenn Simpson is the majority owner of Bean, LLC which uses Fusion GPS as a trade name

There were no senators present, only staffers for Chuck Grassley and Diane Feinstein.

Simpson hired Christopher Steele to prepare the material that became known as the “dossier”.

a. Simpson said he doesn’t know if Steele paid the Russian sources.

b. Simpson believes the dossier is completely true. When asked how he verified the dossier he said

1. C Steele is honest and always tells the truth. He also said Steele can determine when he is being fed disinformation

2. The things in the dossier are consistent w the way the Russians do things

That really summarizes Simpson’s “verification” although there are several pages in the transcript on this. Sounds like an incredibly weak argument.

Much of what Simpson said sounded untruthful to me. He did everything he could to continually bash Donald Trump.

c. He repeatedly refused to identify the clients of the dossier (we now know that was the Clinton campaign and the DNC)

He refused to state whether the clients ever saw the dossier

d. Once Steele started in May or June 2016, within weeks he had the first report. It so bothered and “shocked” Steele that he felt he had to share it w the FBI. That is Steele had to share it, because the info indicated Donald Trump might be being blackmailed by the Russians.

Steele knew people in the FBI he could talk to. Simpson said that it was Steele’s idea to go right away to the FBI. In early July 2016 , Steele met w someone in the FBI.

Simpson refused to identify who that FBI person was. Simpson said he himself never met w the FBI.

Simpson was not asked if he ever met w DoJ. We now know Ohr of DoJ did meet w Simpson and Steele.

e. Simpson was asked who worked on the research into Donald Trump. The names he gave were redacted. It is not obvious whether Nellie Ohr was in the list or not. If she was, that may be how it was discovered Nellie Ohr worked for Fusion. If not, then Simpson left out something very significant.

f. Simpson said Steele told him that the FBI said they had another source inside the Trump organization that was reporting similar info. Not known at the time of the interview, but it is now reported that the other source was Papadopoulos.

g. Sir Andrew Wood is an associate of Orbis (Steele’s firm). Wood met w John McCain and David Kramer at a security conference. Wood told them of the dossier research. McCain asked Kramer to follow up on the info.

(Simpson has known Kramer for a long time. Small world). When asked how Kramer actually got the copy of the dossier, Simpson’s lawyer said they would not answer that.

h. Simpson refused to identify the Russian sources. His lawyer said somebody has already been killed as a result of the dossier. Interestingly, there did not appear to be any follow up questions on that.

i. D trump Jr met with a Russian lawyer on 9 June 2016. Simpson met with that Russian lawyer on 8, 9, and 10 June 2016.

Simpson all his discussions w the Russian lawyer were on another matter and had nothing to do w the Trump research. Simpson said the Russian lawyer spoke only Russian, and Simpson does not speak Russian.

Hard to summarize 300 pages of transcript w bullets, but the above gives a small view of the interview.

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adding: David Kramer previously told congressional investigators that he knew who the sources were for the dossier. He declined to name them.

The House intelligence committee has subpoenaed Kramer to appear before the committee this Thursday.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-g...dossiers-publishing/

I sure hope someone asks Kramer if John McCain knows who the sources were

adding again:

a better summary of Simpson's interview than mine is here:

http://thefederalist.com/2018/....WlY4bAJmOzI.twitter

10 Takeaways From Glenn Simpson’s Fusion GPS Senate Testimony

by Mollie Hemingway

a good read

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Flimsiest hatchet job in history.

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Originally posted by braillediver:
Flimsiest hatchet job in history.

And yet...they say a good prosecutor can indict a ham sandwich. Which is why this is all so dangerous and outrageous.

President Trump has had about enough of this crap, and his remarks are entirely appropriate.

“I've been in office now for 11 months," he said. "For 11 months, they've had this phony cloud over this administration, over our government and it has hurt our government. It does hurt our government. It's a Democrat hoax that was brought up as an excuse, for losing an election.
I will say this, there is collusion but it's really with the Democrats and the Russians, far more than it is with the Republicans and the Russians,” Trump said. “So the witch hunt continues.”

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Originally posted by Veeper:

quote:

Originally posted by justjoe:
Di Nero has turned out to be a complete, blathering moron.

They play "dress-up" for a living. A child's game. The fact that their opinions and comments raise anyone's ire one iota is pretty nutty in and of itself.

Hollyweird types all want to be remembered for something other than “pretending”; after all, children are very good at pretending, and throwing temper tantrums and hissy fits when they don’t get their way.

A group of Republican lawmakers unveiled Wednesday a bill that pairs granting legal status to younger illegal immigrants with a laundry list of conservative immigration reforms and border security enhancements, including President Donald Trump’s proposed border wall.

The proposal contains all of the changes to immigration law that Trump has demanded as part of a deal to replace the now-cancelled Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program, a former President Barack Obama administration order that shielded hundreds of thousands of younger illegal immigrants from deportation.

It also incorporates several immigration enforcement measures long advocated by immigration hawks, including penalties for sanctuary cities and foreign nationals who overstay their visas.

Dubbed the Securing America’s Future Act, the bill was teased by its sponsors — GOP Reps. Bob Goodlatte of Virginia, Michael McCaul of Texas, Raúl Labrador of Idaho, and Martha McSally of Arizona — in a Tuesday op-ed in the Wall Street Journal. The official rollout Wednesday comes a day after Trump met with a bipartisan group lawmakers to discuss the framework of a bill that would legalize DACA recipients before the program expires in March.

The bill’s authors said the DACA negotiations presented an opportunity to enact tougher immigration law and stave off pressure for a future amnesty of illegal immigrants.

“Americans have been debating how to best fix the country’s immigration system for decades,” they wrote in the WSJ. “Congress has a unique opportunity to act now, before the country ends up with another large population who crossed the border illegally as children.”

A summary of the bill’s provisions reads like an immigration hawk’s wish list. It would fulfill Trump’s four-point plan for a DACA compromise: legal status for DACA recipients, and end to the diversity visa lottery, limits on chain migration, and full funding for the border wall.

The bill also includes several provisions that Trump has not said are necessary to reach a DACA deal, but that immigration hawks have long argued are needed to eliminate the “pull factors” for illegal immigration. Among them are Kate’s Law, which enhances penalties for illegal immigrants who re-enter the country after being deported, and mandatory use of e-Verify, an electronic employment authorization system.

Democrats are almost certain to balk the GOP bill, not least because it does not offer a path to legal permanent residence or citizenship for DACA recipients. The bill instead allows beneficiaries to receive a three-year renewable legal status, essentially reviving the DACA program for the roughly 800,000 illegal immigrants who received protection under the original order.

Despite slim chances of garnering more than a few Democratic supporters, the bill could serve as a starting point for negotiating a DACA replacement.

At Wednesday’s meeting with lawmakers, Trump said he would be willing to place a DACA fix within a “bill of love,” but did not specify what such legislation would entail. The White House clarified Wednesday that any DACA compromise must also do away with chain migration and the diversity visa while also funding the border wall.


http://dailycaller.com/2018/01...immigration-reforms/

I am sure all of the Wash DC voters who supported Donald Trump will appreciate this:




both of them

Obama 2008: Under my plan, your electricity rates will necessarily skyrocket

https://youtu.be/HlTxGHn4sH4

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Originally posted by sdy:
I am sure all of the Wash DC voters who supported Donald Trump will appreciate this:


both of them

Obama 2008: Under my plan, your electricity rates will necessarily skyrocket

https://youtu.be/HlTxGHn4sH4

Cool, I wonder why they didn't include the MD customers though?

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Sarah Carter is reporting on Hannity that she has confirmed that the dossier was used in obtaining a FISA warrant, and has been told, but has not confirmed, that the FBI paid someome for it.

"All right, boys. Let's go, with Your In The Jailhouse Now.