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Chip away the stone |
Were they free to leave, or to run for, vote for, or advocate for the system of government they wanted without fear of reprisal? (Obviously a rhetorical question) | |||
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Honky Lips |
I'm not quite sure where I'm advocating, I'm simply denoting the choices we've got. Additionally, I'm making no implications as to the effectiveness of that course of action. | |||
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| 10mm is The Boom of Doom  |
Every election season, some asshat gets on here and encourages people not to vote. Fuck 'em. Vote as often as you can. The budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest Rome become bankrupt. People again must learn to work, instead of living on public assistance. ~ Cicero 55 BC The Dhimocrats love America like ticks love a hound. | |||
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| Nature is full of magnificent creatures |
This much I'll agree with.
So you are not sure what you are advocating, you are equivocating as to what might happen if potential voters were to do the thing you are not sure about, yet you want to argue with everyone here about it? | |||
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Certified All Positions |
Fender, thought experiments are all well and good. Not voting is in no way noble, or intellectual, no matter how rigorous the rationale. Unless you'd like to find an island and a Conch and start your own society, great. Meanwhile we've got to work with the system that exists, and that means voting. Point in fact, changing that systems rules and laws, requires voting first among numerous types of activism. Abandoning or rejecting the system and society we have here, but still living in it and enjoying its fruits and privileges, meanwhile decrying it, is the purview of the juvenile. I would agree that not voting is akin to pacifism. An empty moral mantle easily shouldered, because it is weightless and carries with it no risk. Frickin' vote. It is what Adult Citizens do, and with good reason. Not voting is a vacuum, and one that will be filled by those more motivated. Arc. ______________________________ "Like a bitter weed, I'm a bad seed"- Johnny Cash "I'm a loner, Dottie. A rebel." - Pee Wee Herman Rode hard, put away wet. RIP JHM "You're a junkyard dog." - Lupe Flores. RIP | |||
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| 10mm is The Boom of Doom |
If you want to discourage voting, please do it on a leftist site. At least that way, you would have a net positive impact. The budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest Rome become bankrupt. People again must learn to work, instead of living on public assistance. ~ Cicero 55 BC The Dhimocrats love America like ticks love a hound. | |||
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always with a hat or sunscreen |
I've never missed casting my vote even when deployed since first eligible. I can not fathom those who shirk their civic responsibility. Guess I'm just too old a fart to comprehend.  Certifiable member of the gun toting, septuagenarian, bucket list workin', crazed retiree, bald is beautiful club! USN (RET), COTEP #192 | |||
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| 10mm is The Boom of Doom |
Voted The budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest Rome become bankrupt. People again must learn to work, instead of living on public assistance. ~ Cicero 55 BC The Dhimocrats love America like ticks love a hound. | |||
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| Triggers don't pull themselves  |
Voted about an hour ago. Above average turnout at my location I'd say. Michael | |||
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His Royal Hiney |
I vote just so I can say no to all the bond issues "It did not really matter what we expected from life, but rather what life expected from us. We needed to stop asking about the meaning of life, and instead to think of ourselves as those who were being questioned by life – daily and hourly. Our answer must consist not in talk and meditation, but in right action and in right conduct. Life ultimately means taking the responsibility to find the right answer to its problems and to fulfill the tasks which it constantly sets for each individual." Viktor Frankl, Man's Search for Meaning, 1946. | |||
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| Muzzle flash aficionado  |
Just got home from the polls. No line but there had been 248 voters ahead of me today. flashguy Texan by choice, not accident of birth | |||
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Fortified with Sleestak |
Everyone always thinks they're gonna be Ralph when the shtf but the truth is most of them will be piggy. It never ends well for piggy. I have the heart of a lion.......and a lifetime ban from the Toronto Zoo.- Unknown | |||
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| His diet consists of black coffee, and sarcasm.  |
 If you want to do that, more power to you. | |||
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| Member |
Voting has been a source of frustration for me, in that during the portion of my life I've been eligible to vote, I have only one time cast a vote for someone I legitimately wanted in office, rather than holding my nose and voting against someone worse. I still vote, as it is my right and responsibility as an American citizen, but it would be nice to have the opportunity to vote for candidates more frequently than voting against candidates. ------------- $ | |||
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Ammoholic |
Yeah that's pretty clear. Jesse Sic Semper Tyrannis | |||
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| Member |
My father's reasoning was always pretty simple. "I don't vote because I don't want to be responsible for sending someone else's kids to a place like where I was sent." Spent part of 68 & 69 in SE Asia. Won't say it was right or that I agree, but it was at least a reason that made sense to him. A Perpetual Disappointment... | |||
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| Honky Lips |
Well, the blue wave seems to have crashed here in Nevada. Tell me again how my vote matters. | |||
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The Joy Maker |
So absolutely everything didn't go "your" way? Wow, that's some shit luck. 
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| Little ray of sunshine  |
That doesn't make any sense. Abstaining doesn't abslove you from responsibility. The fish is mute, expressionless. The fish doesn't think because the fish knows everything. | |||
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| Lawyers, Guns and Money  |
Where in Nevada do you live? Nevada elected Jacky Rosen to the Senate by about a 5% margin. U.S. Senate › Candidate Party Votes Pct. Jacky Rosen Democrat 486,794 50.4% Dean Heller* Republican 438,522 45.4 None of these candidates — 15,197 1.6 Others 25,382 2.6 If you break that down by County, only Washoe County and Clark County gave Rosen a majority.  The problem with Nevada, is that the population is so concentrated in Clark County, around Las Vegas. It's like Illinois and Cook County, around Chicago. The only solution is going to be to start winning over the hearts and minds of people in Clark County. Giving up isn't a solution. It's just surrender and acquiescence to socialism and tyranny. "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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