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Two most important things you can do as a citizen is vote and jury duty. If you don't take part in the process, your criticism of the results somewhat loses it's validity. | |||
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I vote because it's the foundation of citizenship. It's actually the least one can do. People have fought and died for the right. To not exercise that right because you think it doesn't matter is lazy and foolish. It's like throwing a temper tantrum. I'm among the most outnumbered voters in the country. My vote is little more that a feeble protest against the insanity of where I live. The odds of one single vote mattering on a national scale are incredibly low. Those single votes added up in certain places swing elections. My place isn't that place. Your place may not be either but one day it could be. | |||
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Get Off My Lawn |
My problem with this premise is that the divide between parties is so vast that one really can't pick, say a few candidates Democrats, and some others Republicans. Especially in the last 5 years, the Democratic Party has moved to such an extreme position that to vote for them is to support extreme ideas that are the polar opposite of American values. Democrats right now, whether locally, state-wide, or national, all support more gun control, single-payer healthcare, an open border system, more taxes and fees, more programs of wealth-distribution, etc. I still to this day cannot figure why anyone would want such a platform. To me, the Democrats can NEVER yield a "best candidate" any ANY race.
The above does not apply to Trump, who has accomplished far more in his two years than almost any modern day president. I think many folks in this forum would agree with me. As far as voting, if one decides it is a waste of time, that person is a waste of a citizen. "I’m not going to read Time Magazine, I’m not going to read Newsweek, I’m not going to read any of these magazines; I mean, because they have too much to lose by printing the truth"- Bob Dylan, 1965 | |||
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My brother lives in Mass and he does not vote; he feels it is a lost cause in that state. His county voted for the bitch 67%. | |||
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Peripheral Visionary |
Were I to live in a commie state I'd vote anyway to offset a commie vote. If you don't vote you're not entitled to bitch.   | |||
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Does he deliver lumber? Maybe I was talking to him. He's part of the problem. People should fucking vote. Arc. ______________________________ "Like a bitter weed, I'm a bad seed"- Johnny Cash "I'm a loner, Dottie. A rebel." - Pee Wee Herman Rode hard, put away wet. RIP JHM "You're a junkyard dog." - Lupe Flores. RIP | |||
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| Staring back from the abyss  |
I work with a young gal (25-26ish). A few weeks ago we got into a discussion about voting and she stated that she has never voted and didn't even know how or who to vote for. I dumbed it down as much as I could for her and simply told her to vote for every Republican and against anything that would increase our taxes. Pretty simple. The way I've voted for decades. I even offered to accompany her to the polls to help her vote that way. I hate to use the word "ignorant" in describing her as it has a really negative connotation (to the ignorant  ) . But, she really is. As a young millenial (or whatever they call that generation), while a very smart young lady, she really is uneducated on the issues/candidates. It puzzles me, as since the age of 18, I have always been knowledgable on such issues.________________________________________________________ "Great danger lies in the notion that we can reason with evil." Doug Patton. | |||
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| Eating elephants one bite at a time  |
I addressed this later in my post. Vote your personal choice and opinion. Pick the best in your opinion.
He doesn't fit the normal mold of a politician though does he? There are always exceptions. | |||
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Not really from Vienna |
It strikes me as the height of laziness and ingratitude when a person doesn’t bother to vote. Naturally, I’m ok with it when the indolent ingrates are GDCs. | |||
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| You're going to feel a little pressure... |
My wife stood on line for 90 minutes, yesterday, to vote. First time in her life. She's wanting to get more educated on the issues, too. I am pleased. Bruce "The designer of the gun had clearly not been instructed to beat about the bush. 'Make it evil,' he'd been told. 'Make it totally clear that this gun has a right end and a wrong end. Make it totally clear to anyone standing at the wrong end that things are going badly for them. If that means sticking all sort of spikes and prongs and blackened bits all over it then so be it. This is not a gun for hanging over the fireplace or sticking in the umbrella stand, it is a gun for going out and making people miserable with." -Douglas Adams “It is just as difficult and dangerous to try to free a people that wants to remain servile as it is to try to enslave a people that wants to remain free." -Niccolo Machiavelli The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends most of one's time defending scoundrels. For it is against scoundrels that oppressive laws are first aimed, and oppression must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all. -Mencken | |||
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I hate lazy fucks that don't vote. | |||
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| Leave the gun. Take the cannoli. |
I voted a month ago. Didn’t even have to use my own stamp. So much easier than waiting in line. | |||
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| Lawyers, Guns and Money  |
Yep. I bet everyone who frequents Sigforum will vote. But... I do know plenty of people who won't. Most of them, are so clueless... we might be better off if they stay home. It makes YOUR vote and MY vote more powerful.  "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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Here in Upstate NY your vote doesn't count much for the president, senate, governor, or state senate races. they are all determined by NYC. Our vote is important for the congress and state assembly because they can go either way and gives us a small voice in government. I cant say I've ever felt good about voting for anyone (except maybe Reagan), always feel like I'm voting for the lesser piece of crap or more voting against the other guy. | |||
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Your vote doesn't matter, it is quite simply a waste of time, and if you DO vote, you don't get to complain as you've voted to be ruled. I had a thread about this a few weeks ago, that said I did go and vote. | |||
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| Nature is full of magnificent creatures |
This is exactly what I'm talking about, and I'm certain everyone here feels the same way. These sacrifices are one of the things I bring up when I discuss voting with people who choose not to vote for one reason or another. This guy died in Afghanistan in the last 24 hours. He was the current Mayor of North Ogden, a Major in the Utah National Guard, 39, and a father of 7. North Ogden mayor killed while deployed in Afghanistan https://www.ksl.com/article/46...loyed-in-afghanistan | |||
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| 10mm is The Boom of Doom  |
"I only regret that I have but one vote to cast for my country." ~Fenris Hale God Bless and Protect the Once and Future President, Donald John Trump. | |||
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| Staring back from the abyss |
I've long thought that states like NY and CA, should adopt a state level electoral college. What the founders didn't want to happen at the federal level, is happening at the state level. You guys, and the rest of us, are going to be stuck with Schumer, Gillibrand, and some Cuomo offspring until they decide to retire, rather than when you decide to retire them. It ain't right that an area of 302 square miles (plus Albany, Syracuse, and Buffalo) determines the vote in a state as large as NY. NYC has nearly 1/2 the population of the entirety of the rest of the state. And thus...what they say wins. As said, that ain't right on a national level and it shouldn't be right on a state level. ________________________________________________________ "Great danger lies in the notion that we can reason with evil." Doug Patton. | |||
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Heck yes, I vote! If there is a special election for dog catcher, I vote. It’s my civic duty and I always felt if you don’t vote, you don’t get to bitch about the outcome.  ........................................... All I've had all day is like six gummy bears and some scotch... | |||
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| Be not wise in thine own eyes  |
Vote every election. However didn't vote back in the 80's when I was serving overseas in the Air Force. They never promoted voting, which I now find very odd. I wonder how it is now for servicemen overseas. Has time changed and is it now promoted? “We’re in a situation where we have put together, and you guys did it for our administration…President Obama’s administration before this. We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics,” Pres. Select, Joe Biden “Let’s go, Brandon” Kelli Stavast, 2 Oct. 2021 | |||
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