This guy was not a fan of Tesla battery replacement cost.

The explosion was very cool!

Watch for a few minutes following it for slow motion footage from different angles of the car getting blown to smithereens!!

Tesla recharging station.

So, about that nuclear idea…. Does anyone know how “hot” those glass pebbles are, which contain nuclear waste? Both in terms of radioactivity and temp?

as far as alternative power plants, hard to beat the Chrysler Turbine, one cool concept car that actually works, still.

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as far as alternative power plants, hard to beat the Chrysler Turbine, one cool concept car that actually works, still.

Or grab a Model S & add your own turbines.

I believe Stephen Lehto wrote the book on the turbine car. He has been on both the Jay Leno garage series and VINwiki talking about it.

He has his own YouTube channel called Lehto‘s Law … Worthy of its own merit.

I’m actually a fan of electric cars for a daily for me but as with anything when the government gets involved they fuck everything up. The Dems are trying to sneak in a remote kill switch on electric cars. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out why. No tinfoil is needed this is about control of movement.

If there’s another pandemic they can shut your car off, if you don't pay your usage tax they can shut you car off, if they don't like where you're going they can shut your car off, etc.

I also think there will be a future environmental pandemic and this would be a great way of controlling movement. Does anyone really think it’s for police chases. Nope.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...ASt1Th?ocid=msedgntp

Listened to two guys on the radio in the truck today talking about how this incident would have played out had everyone stuck in that traffic jam been driving EV's as per Joey B's wet dream. Their contention was a whole lotta people would have been in really bad shape as their EV's flattened their batteries trying to continually run their heaters. I would imagine the standard IC vehicle can idle for a lot more hours before running out of fuel than an EV can. Hadn't really given that angle any thought when we were discussing this traffic debacle.

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Their contention was a whole lotta people would have been in really bad shape as their EV's flattened their batteries trying to continually run their heaters. I would imagine the standard IC vehicle can idle for a lot more hours before running out of fuel than an EV can. Hadn't really given that angle any thought when we were discussing this traffic debacle.

Depends on how long you thing an IC vehicle can idle. EVs don't use any battery power when they aren't moving...so they don't really "idle"

Tesla says their battery will run the heater something between 24-36 hours.

The upcoming Ford F-150 Lightning can power your home, in case of a power outage, for 3-8 days depending on if you're running your AC (heaviest drain), freezers/refrig, and all you lights

AC is not my heaviest drain. The 20kW toaster that heats my house is. Fortunately, we don't have to run it very often.

According to the interwebs, my F350 will idle in -35 degrees Fahrenheit for 3½ days.

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Depends on how long you thing an IC vehicle can idle.

I assure you, my F150 would idle for a couple days and it gets lousy fuel economy.

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EVs don't use any battery power when they aren't moving...so they don't really "idle"

Tesla says their battery will run the heater something between 24-36 hours.

In sub-freezing temps where lithium batteries really suffer? I have my doubts on that one. And the amperage draw from the heater in those cars is likely to be a significant draw on the battery pack.

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The upcoming Ford F-150 Lightning can power your home, in case of a power outage, for 3-8 days depending on if you're running your AC (heaviest drain), freezers/refrig, and all you lights

Can we focus on what exists today please. The Lightning isn't on the road yet, and until it is and has been thoroughly tested, we don't really have a clue what it can and can't do in freezing temps.

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Tesla says their battery will run the heater something between 24-36 hours.

I saw where a guy with a Model3 got stuck in that. Heat @ 66 & seat warmers on low. He was stuck for 11 hours and used about %1 a hour. Car has "Camp Mode" where you can set interior temp and hang out.

Could even pull up Netflix and hang out and watch some shows as long as you are comfortable with amount of charge.

With a blanket and running only a seat warmer drawing 50w / hour. On a full 82KWh battery. You could hang out for around 60 days.

The likelihood of ever being on a full battery while getting stuck on the highway is extraordinarily low.

You’re on a road trip and you planned your charges. The chances of getting stuck right after charge equals zero.

Put that battery in the freezing cold and you’re not getting anywhere close to the performance stated under optimal conditions.

Regardless you’re still burning coal/fossil fuel.

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he likelihood of ever being on a full battery while getting stuck on the highway is extraordinarily low.

Well the same exists for ICE vehicles, how many were on a complete full tank of gas, if you were on the way home, exit away and had 5 gallons in the tank it's not going to idle for days.

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he likelihood of ever being on a full battery while getting stuck on the highway is extraordinarily low.

Well the same exists for ICE vehicles, how many were on a complete full tank of gas, if you were on the way home, exit away and had 5 gallons in the tank it's not going to idle for days.

Thousand times easier to refill that gas tank in 5 minutes. Most of the people around you are probably on the same exact fuel.

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Thousand times easier to refill that gas tank in 5 minutes. Most of the people around you are probably on the same exact fuel.

true, but doubtful that anyone is going to give up fuel, it's survival time point is that not every ICE vehicle was fully fueled, which is a direct comparison to the "well EV's are not fully charged." argument.

Could you use someone else's fuel, sure, getting them to give you some however is another story. Now rescue services clearly could supply ICE fuel easier than lugging a mobile charging unit to fuel up 500 cars, agreed.

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The likelihood of ever being on a full battery while getting stuck on the highway is extraordinarily low.

You’re on a road trip and you planned your charges. The chances of getting stuck right after charge equals zero.

You're right of course, but the reason they supply an duration ability from a full tank is to offer a relative comparison to an IC with a full tank.

Given that EV usually offer shorter range, there is a higher likelihood that the EV will be at a higher charge state than a IC's fuel state in a similar situation

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Tesla says their battery will run the heater something between 24-36 hours.

I saw where a guy with a Model3 got stuck in that. Heat @ 66 & seat warmers on low. He was stuck for 11 hours and used about %1 a hour. Car has "Camp Mode" where you can set interior temp and hang out.

Could even pull up Netflix and hang out and watch some shows as long as you are comfortable with amount of charge.

With a blanket and running only a seat warmer drawing 50w / hour. On a full 82KWh battery. You could hang out for around 60 days.

That’s quite interesting. Basically it’s no bigger deal than an ICE vehicle then and maybe better.

Realistically has anyone been stuck in their car longer than a day or two. If a full Tesla battery will keep you going for 60 days I would guess 1/4 full would easily get you 10 days. Pretty sure of you’re in your car for that long you have much bigger problems.

If true it’s another anti EV debunked.

This is an amusing thread. Any of y’all spent time isolated - outside the city?

Almost anywhere rural America there are farms. I can walked up to almost any American farm and pay/ask for a gallon or two of gasoline and guaranteed I’ll have it. Try doing that with a jar of electricity.