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Does anyone with a triple digit IQ actually believe this?

This is a perfect example of why I do not give legitimacy to any polls

Hell no we ALL know these polls are fixed.

Yeah, the only poll I give any weight to is the one at the end of Nov 3rd, 2020.

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Originally posted by parabellum:
This is why conservatives are turning away from FoxNews:

Fox News Poll: Biden leads nomination race, tops Trump by 12 points in matchup

Really? Does anyone with a triple digit IQ actually believe this? This is a perfect example of why I do not give legitimacy to any polls, whether or not they favor my point of view. Pollsters can make polls say anything they wish.

Disgusting and intelligence-insulting

I find it almost comical. Demeaning, but comical. A guy who doesn't even know what state he's in, or what era it is (how's that phonograph working) is somehow 12 points ahead of Trump. Yeah, I'll buy that....when pigs actually do fly. Really makes you wonder if FOX is playing the CNN game and trying to be controversial to drive eyeballs and clicks to their website and channel. After all, its worked so well for CNN.

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Originally posted by parabellum:
This is why conservatives are turning away from FoxNews:

Fox News Poll: Biden leads nomination race, tops Trump by 12 points in matchup

Really? Does anyone with a triple digit IQ actually believe this? This is a perfect example of why I do not give legitimacy to any polls, whether or not they favor my point of view. Pollsters can make polls say anything they wish.

Disgusting and intelligence-insulting

Absolutely!!! Virtually anything can be proved by "poll" simply by selecting the necessary group to be polled.

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Originally posted by parabellum:
This is why conservatives are turning away from FoxNews:

Fox News Poll: Biden leads nomination race, tops Trump by 12 points in matchup

Really? Does anyone with a triple digit IQ actually believe this? This is a perfect example of why I do not give legitimacy to any polls, whether or not they favor my point of view. Pollsters can make polls say anything they wish.

Disgusting and intelligence-insulting

That headline popped up on my phone, and I laughed out loud. Absurd.

https://www.washingtonexaminer...-with-no-credibility

President Trump today:

“Well, I’ll tell you what. There have been stories written about a certain individual, a male, and they say he’s the whistleblower,”

“If he’s the whistleblower, he has no credibility because he’s a Brennan guy, he’s a Susan Rice guy, he’s an Obama guy.”

“And he hates Trump. And he’s a radical. Now, maybe it’s not him. But if it’s him, you guys ought to release the information.”

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as far as I can tell, Ciaramella still has not made a public statement.

I bet he is having some regrets. His CIA career should be over.

adding: if you were a decent honest person in the intel "business", would you be comfortable sharing anything w Eric C ?

edit: corrected spelling Eric C name

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The CIA and NSA have no credibility in my book.
They turned their tools on the people.

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https://meaninginhistory.blogs...eric-ciaramella.html


Emphasis not added- Emphasis appears on the page linked.

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Ciaramella’s ascension is surprising considering pro-Trump sources within the Obama administration disclosed to me in December, 2016 that Ciaramella’s helped draft Susan Rice’s anti-Trump talking points before the Inauguration.

In fall of 2016 as Obama’s director for Ukraine on the NSC, Ciaramella was the main force pushing Trump-Russia conspiracy theories.

Some suspect Ciaramella was one of the original leakers who told the media about classified conversations Trump had with Russian diplomat Sergei Lavrov. While it’s unproven that Ciaramella leaked that conversation, it is now a fact of life that he will have access to every conversation Trump has with foreign officials, as part of his official duties for McMaster.

When this story first came to me, my question was, “This is a huge personnel move. Why hasn’t Politico run it?”

My sources told me other outlets passed on the story, because, “This isn’t the type of information the mainstream media wants out there.”

Note the second sentence in the third paragraph:

it is now a fact of life that he will have access to every conversation Trump has with foreign officials, as part of his official duties for McMaster.

Also, this is linked to in the comments section of that page:

Schiff’s Ukrainian Hoax Linked to Members of Obama’s NSC Including Eric Ciaramella and Charles Kupchan



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Originally posted by sdy:

as far as I can tell, Ciaramelia still has not made a public statement.

I bet he is having some regrets. His CIA career should be over.

adding: if you were a decent honest person in the intel "business", would you be comfortable sharing anything w Eric C ?

Something these Never-Trumpers and Leftists haven't figured out.

https://www.oann.com/oan-gives...o-deny-media-claims/

One America News reporter Neil W. McCabe followed up on information from multiple sources that the alleged whistleblower, Eric Ciaramella, was hiding out at his parents’ home in Connecticut.

After McCabe knocked on the front door and rang the doorbell, a man who gave the same name as Ciaramella’s father drove up and spoke to McCabe in the driveway. He acknowledged that he knew Eric and asked McCabe for his business card.

McCabe also called two numbers associated with the family at that address and left a message with each. At the end of this news package, McCabe tells the so-called whistleblower he is welcome to respond to OAN.

Ciaramella is a CIA analyst, who was assigned to the National Security Council staff’s Ukraine desk at the White House. In addition to being a vocal advocate for more aid to Ukraine, the analyst was reported to have also advised then-Vice President Joe Biden, when Biden held sway over America-Ukraine relations.

video at link


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fits right in. Rush Limbaugh called him a pajama boy

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Originally posted by sdy:
One America News reporter Neil W. McCabe followed up on information from multiple sources that the alleged whistleblower, Eric Ciaramella, was hiding out at his parents’ home in Connecticut.

Man, that is one badass Chuck Norris sumbitch, huh?

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One America News reporter Neil W. McCabe followed up on information from multiple sources that the alleged whistleblower, Eric Ciaramella, was hiding out at his parents’ home in Connecticut.

Maybe we should send a gift of comfort

Ciaramella parents look wealthy



Father of Eric - Anthony Ciaramella is Senior Vice President at People's United Bank in Hartford CT

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^^^ Their lawn sucks. Trailer trash!

I don't see how that house or their lawn (from google earth 3D) matters at all regarding their kid's (alleged) criminal leaking.

Even if he's staying there, would you turn your kid out if he was mixed up in a bunch of things, and you weren't even entirely sure what was going on?

Seems irrelevant, but who knows....

somebody's feeling the heat

https://www.yahoo.com/news/law...tions-164204359.html

A lawyer for the whistleblower who raised alarms about President Donald Trump's dealings with Ukraine said Sunday his client is willing to answer written questions submitted by House Republicans.

The surprise offer, made to Rep. Devin Nunes, the top Republican on the House Intelligence Committee, would allow Republicans to ask questions of the whistleblower, who spurred the Democratic-led impeachment inquiry, without having to go through the committee's chairman, Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif.

Attorney Mark Zaid tweeted that the whistleblower would answer questions directly from Republican members "in writing, under oath & penalty of perjury," part of a bid to stem escalating efforts by Trump and his GOP allies to unmask the person's identity. Only queries seeking the person's identity won't be answered, he said.

too late

"Being a whistleblower is not a partisan job nor is impeachment an objective. That is not our role," Zaid tweeted. "So we have offered to @DevinNunes."

"We will ensure timely answers," he said.

Nunes' office did not have immediate comment. Rep. Jim Jordan, an Ohio Republican and member of the House Judiciary Committee who has been highly critical of the impeachment process, said in a statement that written answers wouldn't be sufficient to probe and cross-examine the whistleblower.

"You don't get to ignite an impeachment effort and never account for your actions and role in orchestrating it," Jordan said. "We have serious questions about this individual's political bias and partisan motivations and it seems Mark Zaid and Adam Schiff are attempting to hide these facts from public scrutiny. Last week's testimony raised even more concerns about the anonymous whistleblower and our need to hear from them, in person."

The offer comes as Trump has repeatedly demanded the release of the whistleblower's identity, tweeting Sunday that the person "must come forward." The whistleblower raised concerns about Trump's July 25 call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy, in which he pressed Zelenskiy to investigate Trump's political rivals. That call became the catalyst for the impeachment inquiry.

The whistleblower's secondhand account of the call has been providing a road map for House Democrats investigating whether the president and others in his orbit pressured Ukraine to probe political opponents, including former Vice President Joe Biden.



"Reveal the Whistleblower and end the Impeachment Hoax!" Trump tweeted

...

House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy, R-Calif., said Sunday that he had not yet discussed the whistleblower's offer with Nunes, but stressed that the person should answer questions in a public appearance before the committee.

"When you're talking about the removal of the president of the United States, undoing democracy, undoing what the American public had voted for, I think that individual should come before the committee," McCarthy told CBS' "Face the Nation."

"We need an openness that people understand this," he added.

Zaid said his team had addressed the issue of alleged bias with Republican members of the committee and had stressed the need for anonymity to maintain the safety of the whistleblower and that person's family, "but with little effect in halting the attacks."

"Let me be absolutely clear: Our willingness to cooperate has not changed," tweeted Andrew P. Bakaj, another attorney representing the whistleblower. "What we object to and find offensive, however, is the effort to uncover the identity of the whistleblower."


Bakaj wrote on Saturday that "their fixation on exposing the whistleblower's identity is simply because they're at a loss as to how to address the investigations the underlying disclosure prompted."

President Trump's wallet

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"You don't get to ignite an impeachment effort and never account for your actions and role in orchestrating it," Jordan said.

^So much this. Protections for whistleblowers is in place to protect employees from retribution by their supervisors and managers. But that is an employment situation. Gummint employees are not Constitutional offices. They're hired. POTUS is a Constitutional office, with a specific prescribed pat to their election. POTUS is not an 'employee' of the Gummint.

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"Let me be absolutely clear: Our willingness to cooperate has not changed," tweeted Andrew P. Bakaj, another attorney representing the whistleblower. "What we object to and find offensive, however, is the effort to uncover the identity of the whistleblower."

Uh what's all the hub-bub about the guys name has been plastered all over the interwebz. That ship has sailed dude.

I can't wait for Eric Ciaramella's first book.

working title : Is I is or is I Ain't the Blower

sequel : You don't Know Me