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Originally posted by flashguy:
It will be interesting to see how this plays out. Development of a new pharmaceutical is very expensive, due in part to the long testing process required by the FDA before a drug can be released. The places that sell drugs cheaper than the US are in reality not helping to pay for that cost--all the development costs are being bourne here. The US is subsidizing drug sales everywhere else. Allowing more US purchases at those lower prices could seriously impact the ability of drug companies to continue developing new drugs.

flashguy

You hit the nail right on the head.

I spoke to a friend I've known since high school who is a data scientist at a pharmaceutical company and we've had these discussions before about why Americans get screwed in the ass on drug prices while the rest of the world pays cheap prices and laughs at us.

He basically said it sucks but we Americans are the only ones funding R&D for new drugs and this may have the unintended effect of limiting the numbers of new drugs developed in the future.

There has got to be a way to make this more fair as it's ludicrous that Paul in Philadelphia has to pay $10 a pill for Drug XYZ while Pierre in Paris only has to pay $0.10 for the very same thing.

Yes, Americans pay for the R&D, the rest of the world benefits. The rest of the world needs to chip in on the R&D that benefits them so greatly.

Regarding the lower prices on pharmaceuticals that customers in other countries pay, how does that happen? Are the U.S. drug companies selling the medicines at lower cost to other countries than they do here? If so, why?

Or are the other countries buying the pharmaceuticals at the same prices then subsidizing them for their citizens? If that's the case, then the same purchase price is being realized for the company, right?

Interesting how drug prices climbed in the last 10 or so years.

President Trump Restores Confidence in the American Economy

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We’re going to win economically; we’re going to win with the economy.

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Interesting how drug prices climbed in the last 10 or so years.

The previous president's FDA made approving new and current drugs more difficult with all their new rules and regs. Probably a few administrations prior as well.

well thats a kick to the crotch...

no charges for Comey

https://www.foxnews.com/politi...r-ig-referral-source

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Originally posted by nhtagmember:
well thats a kick to the crotch...

no charges for Comey

https://www.foxnews.com/politi...r-ig-referral-source

The leaking of the memo by Comey is just the very tip of the iceberg. There is much more serious stuff coming out of this upcoming IG report, and I'm sure Barr would like to have a rock solid case if he is to bring any charges. Comey ain't out of hot water yet. Not by damn sight.

but that would have been a slam-dunk easy prosecution and wouldn't preclude anything else

if they're not going after the easy ones...

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Originally posted by nhtagmember:
well thats a kick to the crotch...

no charges for Comey

https://www.foxnews.com/politi...r-ig-referral-source

You should read this:

https://theconservativetreehou...-reporting-on-comey/

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Originally posted by nhtagmember:
but that would have been a slam-dunk easy prosecution and wouldn't preclude anything else

if they're not going after the easy ones...

It's probably is not as slam dunk as we think. Or maybe it is. I don't know.

seems to me they are punting on this by perpetuating the myth that just because you had 'no intent' to mishandle classified documents, the fact that you did is rendered pointless

which is the same argument used to let the Hildebeast off the hook

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Originally posted by nhtagmember:
seems to me they are punting on this by perpetuating the myth that just because you had 'no intent' to mishandle classified documents, the fact that you did is rendered pointless

which is the same argument used to let the Hildebeast off the hook

Not that there is any expectation of accuracy in reporting now, but the article above also stated that the memos we "confidential" only and classified after they were written. So perhaps not so much a slam dunk. Of course, that does not mean that the FBI should not consider a middle of the night tactical arrest, some solitary confinement, and an expensive legal battle. Those all seem to be pretty standard on minor stuff.

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Originally posted by nhtagmember:
seems to me they are punting on this by perpetuating the myth that just because you had 'no intent' to mishandle classified documents, the fact that you did is rendered pointless

which is the same argument used to let the Hildebeast off the hook

Not that there is any expectation of accuracy in reporting now, but the article above also stated that the memos we "confidential" only and classified after they were written. So perhaps not so much a slam dunk. Of course, that does not mean that the FBI should not consider a middle of the night tactical arrest, some solitary confinement, and an expensive legal battle. Those all seem to be pretty standard on minor stuff.

"Confidential" is still "Classified"--the lowest level, admittedly, but still covered by the laws. Those laws, BTW, do not have any mention of "intent" in them--simple failure to protect properly, intended or accidental, gets the same punishment. In the matter of security, it doesn't matter HOW classified got compromised, just that it did. And it doesn't really have to have been compromised, just that it could have been (carelessly left on a desk unmonitored). I had 20 years in USAF and all that was drummed into me from day one. Hillary should have been tried and imprisoned for her actions.

flashguy

Great rally in Cincinnati going on! The President “Cincinnati do you have a Democratic mayor”?
A protestor with a sign ‘Imigrants built this country’ acting up. These rallies are epic.

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Originally posted by nhtagmember:
seems to me they are punting on this by perpetuating the myth that just because you had 'no intent' to mishandle classified documents, the fact that you did is rendered pointless

which is the same argument used to let the Hildebeast off the hook

In the comments section under the Conservative Treehouse article linked above, the top comment is from a former prosecutor who says that the "no intent" is BS, and the same BS used by Comey to let Hillary skate.

Also, why would you let Comey slip by on some lesser charge just because there is a greater charge awaiting down the road? That makes no sense to me. If you run a drug deal, and then murder someone, they are still going to charge you with dealing drugs. And if you are found guilty of dealing drugs, the punishment for that will just be added to the murder sentence.

It looks to me like they are dealing with Comey the way Comey dealt with Hillary: cite a lot of crimes, wag your finger and tisk-tisk-- and then let him go.

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Also, why would you let Comey slip by on some lesser charge just because there is a greater charge awaiting down the road

This is the opposite of how the DOJ works. You get someone on a little charge so you can squeeze them for the bigger fish and bigger charges. Comey, like McCabe, is given a pass on getting squeezed because they have no intention of moving up the ladder onto bigger fish.

It is my opinion that Barr/Durham are just Sessions/Huber 2.0. They are more inclined to "protect the institution" of the DOJ/FBI than they are to protect the people those institutions are suppose to serve.

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Originally posted by nhtagmember:
seems to me they are punting on this by perpetuating the myth that just because you had 'no intent' to mishandle classified documents, the fact that you did is rendered pointless

which is the same argument used to let the Hildebeast off the hook

I had a personal experience with "classified" stuff while in the army. We were on maneuvers and since I was a commo team chief I had a TRAINING copy of the SOI. (Signal Operating Instructions)

A jeep in which I was riding hit a stretch of ice and ended up overturning, pinning 2 of us underneath. We were taken to a field hospital for injuries. The copy of the TRAINING SOI was in my uniform pocket, and all my clothes were cut off and disappeared. I was paralyzed from the waist down for 3 days.

When I got back to my unit a couple weeks later they asked me about that SOI. Told them about it. OK. Then an asshole full bird commander decided to court martial me for losing that TRAINING SOI. Things got a little hairy for a day or 2, then the division commander (2 star) intervened and the whole issue was dropped.

The point being, that there was nothing actually classified in the training document.

Now days the swamp dwellers can steal, leak, publish truly classified material and not a damned thing happens.

Who appointed that IG? My guess: obummmer!

I think of the photos of George W. Bush hugging Hillary, and Barbara saying that she and GHW Bush just adored Bill.

The top echelons of DOJ, FBI, CIA and other agencies-- I am beginning to suspect-- are more concerned with working together for the mutual enhancement of their own careers, their own influence and power, their own wealth, than justice and truth.

We have elites who are a lot like the corrupt aristocracy of 18th Century France. They are the top of the food chain of the Swamp. Their loyalty is not to the country, not to the people, not to the Constitution, but to one another.

https://video.foxbusiness.com/...66001/#sp=show-clips

John Durham’s investigation is moving at ‘lightning speed’: Joe diGenova

Jul. 31, 2019 - 6:32 - DiGenova & Toensing’s Victoria Toensing and Joe diGenova on the Democrats’ impeachment push and U.S. attorney John Durham’s criminal investigation.

DiGenova also *guaranteed* that the classified material would all be released Wednesday. Yesterday.