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82nd Airborne. They are supposed to be surrounded.


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Pentagon Admits Taliban Has Billions In US Weapons; Biden Has Yet To Speak To Any World Leaders Since Fall Of Kabul

https://www.zerohedge.com/mark...y-world-leaders-fall

If anyone was holding out hope that the Pentagon has some clue where all those billions in weapons that accumulated in Afghanistan over the past 20 years ended up, don't.

Responding to a reporter's question over the fate of billions of dollars of weaponry that the U.S. gave Afghanistan, National security adviser Jake Sullivan said that the Biden administration does not have "a complete picture", a euphemism for most of the weapons are lost, adding that a "fair amount" of the weapons that the US gave to Afghanistan are in the possession of the Taliban, and they don't expect they will be returned to the US.

"We don't have a complete picture, obviously, of where every article of defense materials has gone but certainly, a fair amount of it has fallen into the hands of the Taliban, and obviously, we don't have a sense that they are going to readily hand it over to us at the airport."

Perhaps more shocking was Sullivan's revelation that Biden - whose vacation was unceremoniously interrupted when the US embassy had to be evacuated on short notice when the Taliban took over - still hasn't spoken with any of his foreign counterparts since Kabul fell.

Sullivan said that in lieu of the president whose incoherent ramblings even when read off a teleprompter makes it virtually impossible to understand what Joe Biden is trying to say, other members of the administration were making calls abroad instead because the discussions were more logistical.

"He's not spoken with any other world leaders," Sullivan said, responding to a question from CNN's Kaitlan Collins.

And while Biden is eating ice cream or napping, other world leaders have spent the last several days on the telephone with allies. German Chancellor Angela Merkel, French President Emmanuel Macron and British Prime Minister Boris Johnson have all conferred with each other. Johnson, meanwhile, has proposed a virtual meeting of the G7.

But Biden has left the calls to foreign allies to those on his team.

"Myself, Secretary (of State Antony) Blinken, several other senior members of the team are engaged on a regular basis with foreign counterparts and we intend to do so in the coming days," Sullivan said.

"Right now, the main issue is an operational issue," he added. "It's about how we coordinate with them to help them get their people out and we are operating through logistic channels and policy channels to make that happen."

Which presumably absolves the most powerful man in the world of any responsibility as to the fate of Afghanistan.

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Meanwhile, elsewhere White House press secretary Jen Psaki pushed back against criticism from members of President Biden’s own Democratic party on the rapid deterioration of security in Afghanistan, telling CNN’s Kaitlan Collins Tuesday that she would “note and reiterate to anyone who's a critic that any President has to make difficult choices as commander in chief.”

“It does not mean there aren't going to be impacts that are gut-wrenching, that are heart-wrenching, that we're all watching transpire over the last couple of days, but these are the difficult choices you have to make as commander in chief, and that's the choice he made,” Psaki added.

Psaki told Collins that the Biden administration, “did assess early on, when the President asked for a clear-eyed assessment that there would be impacts, and there would be consequences of making the choice he made,” but acknowledged, as President Biden did during remarks from the East Room Monday, “that this is happened more rapidly than we anticipated here, than anyone anticipated; I think that accounts for members of Congress and people who are on the ground in Afghanistan.”

In short, the people in charge of the world's most powerful question did not anticipate something that was blatantly obvious to the average Joe. The good news: the administration is fully on top of the biggest medical experiment in history, in which hundreds of millions of Americans are injected with an experiment genetic therapy (as BioNTech's 20-F statement admits), and nothing bad can happen there...

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Jake Sullivan is a complete idiot and is one of the lead figures in this catastrophe. Remember his name.

The fact that Biden has yet to speak to any other world leaders, who's citizens are also stranded in Afghanistan, is more telling of what's (not) happening inside the White House.
 
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Biden and his staff are idiots and they just armed the enemy.
 
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All looks right. Nothing will be done.
 
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Jake Sullivan -

- hillary clinton's deputy chief of staff at the Department of State when she was Secretary of State

(I think he was intimately involved in the Clinton email disaster)

- senior policy advisor to Hillary Clinton's 2016 presidential election campaign

now - United States National Security Advisor to Biden

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https://www.breitbart.com/poli...icans-are-evacuated/

The White House on Tuesday refused to commit American troops in Afghanistan until all Americans were evacuated after the Taliban seized control of the country.

White House National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan dismissed the question as a “hypothetical” when asked by CBS reporter Weijia Jiang whether the White House would commit to the military staying in Kabul until every American was evacuated

Psaki said that there were about 11,000 self-identified Americans in Afghanistan. The White House press team punted a question from Breitbart News about the total numbers of Americans in the country to the State Department.

When pressed by a follow-up question about evacuating Americans, Sullivan replied, “That’s what we’re doing right now. We have asked them all to come to the airport to get on flights and take them home. That’s what we intend to do.”

as far as I can tell, the only place in Afghanistan that we "control" is the airport at Kabul
 
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^^^ What is a self-identified American?

Hint, if you are travelling internationally, and have a passport with a blue cover that says "USA" then you are an American. Otherwise you are not an American.


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History will examine our policies and choices. The eyes of the beholder will not be kind. The future will wonder what poisoned our water.



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I fear this may have moved us one tick closer to President Harris.


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^^^ not to mention the lives which will likely be lost in the future.

And where the hell is Biden to address questions?

he hasn't even spoken to any other world leaders.

What is wrong with him, as a human being?


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^^^ not to mention the lives which will likely be lost in the future.

And where the hell is Biden to address questions?

he hasn't even spoken to any other world leaders.

What is wrong with him, as a human being?


He doesn't know how
 
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Many Afghanistan veterans will have a hard time with this debacle, as well as it has ripped open old wounds for Vietnam veterans.

In my circles it's definitely hitting hard. We're all trying to watch out for each other, and pay attention to not let anyone slip into the depression cracks right now. I also got an email from the VA today, they're really focusing on the OEF vets right now, so it MUST be hitting most in a very predictable way.

I think Lovell summed up many of our concerns quite well in this video:

Warrior Poet: What the Taliban Take Over Means (Youtube)


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Bidet doesn't know what day it is, and in all likelihood he couldn't find Afghanistan on a map of Afghanistan

expecting him to response to something of which he is the cause is highly unlikely
 
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it has ripped open old wounds for Vietnam veterans.


I was beginning to wonder if I was alone.

It’s somewhat odd because I have generally avoided thinking about past events like that which can’t be undone. Reading the Black April book that I mentioned earlier brought many things back and educated me about many others that I just felt and suspected. Again, though, I mostly compartmented it off even though my job there put me in direct touch with the people far more than the vast majority of Vietnam veterans, and therefore I believe my feelings toward them are different than most.

But now this.




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"Joe Biden has been wrong about every single foreign policy issue for the last 50 years." .. Robert Gates - former Sec of Defense under Bush and Obama.

Gates said this before Biden became President. Guess the demented idiot President Biden wants to keep his perfect record of being wrong. Why change just because he is President?
 
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"Joe Biden has been wrong about every single foreign policy issue for the last 50 years." .. Robert Gates - former Sec of Defense under Bush and Obama.

Gates said this before Biden became President. Guess the demented idiot President Biden wants to keep his perfect record of being wrong. Why change just because he is President?


Well, I suppose that's one thing he has over PRESIDENT Trump.

Biden is predictable.


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The Air Force revised their tweet about 800 people on a C-17. Am I the only one who sees an issue with evacuating 600 people with only 165 of which are Americans?

https://twitter.com/usairforce.../1427660956662960132

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Nine C-17 Globemaster IIIs arrived in Kabul, Afghanistan recently delivering equipment and approximately 1000 troops. Seven flights departed, transporting approximately 600 passengers, 165 of which were American citizens.




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Biden and his staff are idiots and they just armed the enemy.


I'm still waiting for people to let this sink in. We left the Taliban better armed than they were 20 years ago. If they were a threat then, they are 10x the threat now.

When it was clear the afghan military couldn't fight for themselves we should have blown up every asset we had there. They now have M4s, armored vehicles, small arms, etc. all provided by us. Thank goodness at least the planes and helicopters will be non functional in a couple years.



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Biden and his staff are idiots and they just armed the enemy.


I'm still waiting for people to let this sink in. We left the Taliban better armed than they were 20 years ago. If they were a threat then, they are 10x the threat now.

When it was clear the afghan military couldn't fight for themselves we should have blown up every asset we had there. They now have M4s, armored vehicles, small arms, etc. all provided by us. Thank goodness at least the planes and helicopters will be non functional in a couple years.


We do the same thing every time. We leave a metric shit ton of guns, vehicles, etc to the enemy.
 
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