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Originally posted by bdylan:
War propaganda is powerful stuff. There's no peace process because the folks financing this slaughter don't want peace. It's exactly what many of us though it was from day one...a proxy war. Bizarre the level of support for this mess in the US.

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Originally posted by IrishWind:
So what is your plan for peace?

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It is amazing how quick these same people forgot when Europe, both through NATO and as individuals helped us in our response to 9/11 and in Operation Iraqi Freedom. Even just closing airspace and denying us access to their bases in and around CentCom would have made operations in Afghanistan a whole lot harder to undertake.

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Looking forward to you or others brilliant ideas.

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Originally posted by McGregor:
Can you copy/paste the editorial. Behind a paywall for me.
Thanks

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Joe Biden could have been a good president.

All he had to do was leave things alone.

Instead, he blundered into the office and wrecked the country.

He is like the guy on a Boeing 747 high over the Atlantic Ocean who breaks into the cockpit and says, “I can fly this thing.”

“You don’t have to, Joe,” the pilot says, “It’s on autopilot. It flies itself. You know, computers.”

Undeterred, Joe presses buttons and flips switches. The plane goes into a nosedive.

Which is where we are today. You don’t put a guy like this in control.

He is President Doom. Everything he touches goes bad.

And nothing is his fault.

He took an energy-independent country and turned it into a nation begging Saudi Arabia and Venezuela for oil. Gasoline prices hit the roof and inflation soared. But it is not his fault.

He forgot how he preened on Day One of his presidency, launching his war on domestic produced energy in favor of his Green Dream of a fossil fuel free world.

Biden, John Kerry, his climate change czar, and the progressives would have you believe that the world will come to an end unless their anti-fossil fuel agenda adopted.

Yes, the world may come to an end. But the chances are the end will come sooner from the unleashing of nuclear weapons then it will come from the use of fossil fuels.

But you do not hear politicians like Biden or Kerry talk much about doing away with nuclear weapons. On the contrary. Biden is reopening nuclear negotiations with Iran which will eventually lead to the Iranians having a nuclear bomb.

This is the country where its religious fanatics have promised to use its first nuclear weapon on Israel and the second on the United States.

If I were to bet, I would wager on the world ending in a nuclear bang before closing out in a fossil fuel whimper.

Meanwhile, the rest of the world keeps pumping away, and the American people suffer. But it is not Biden’s fault. It is Vladimir Putin and his war in Ukraine who is to blame, not Joe Biden.

Joe Biden took a working and strict border policy left to him by Donald Trump and turned it into a humanitarian disaster. Hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants from countries around the world are pouring into the United States and nobody is stopping them. And many of them are dying along the way.

Bidens’s decision to do away with border enforcement has also greatly facilitated the smuggling tons of drugs into the county, including deadly fentanyl from China that is killing many unsuspecting Americans.

But that is not his fault either. It was Trump’s racist border policy that caused all the problems. Besides, he assigned Kamala Harris to get to the root of the problem.

Biden also authored the ill-conceived and humiliating pullout from Afghanistan, causing the unnecessary death of 13 Americans at the chaotic Kabul airport, leaving hundreds of Americans, abandoning thousands of Afghan allies, and throwing he country into the chaotic hands of the Taliban.

Naturally, he blamed Trump, which nobody bought.

The next thing you know Joe Biden will be blaming Putin for the Supreme Court’s decision to send the abortion issue back to the states. Putin somehow must have gotten Trump to appoint three conservatives to the court in order to roil the country.

According to Biden, the “one thing” that has destabilized the country under his leadership has not been soaring gasoline prices, inflation, the open border, the shameful retreat in Afghanistan, the war in Ukraine, the frightening rising crime rate or the pandemic, but “the outrageous behavior” of the Supreme Court on the abortion issue.

The court did not destabilize the country. Joe Biden did.

This man does not belong in the cockpit.

Peter Lucas is a veteran Massachusetts political reporter and columnist.

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Originally posted by IrishWind:

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Originally posted by bdylan:
War propaganda is powerful stuff. There's no peace process because the folks financing this slaughter don't want peace. It's exactly what many of us though it was from day one...a proxy war. Bizarre the level of support for this mess in the US.

So what is your plan for peace? Ukraine wants it land back, and Russia wants Ukraine and her people to be wiped out as a political and ethnic entity.

Looking forward to you or others brilliant ideas.

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Originally posted by parabellum:

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Originally posted by IrishWind:
So what is your plan for peace?

We don't need a "plan for peace." We don't need a plan for anything when it comes to the Ukraine.

I understand, though. It's gotta be rough, finding out that your favorite team is going to lose the game.

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This is about a modern day Hitler using his military to destroy a nation for his ego to become Vlad the Great. And it just isn't Putin trying to regain lost lands, but seize 40% of the worlds grain, and the very large oil deposits under Crimea and off it's coasts.

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Originally posted by IrishWind:
But for your consideration, a group of people, with a list of grievances, decides to be independent and form a new nation. And the old nation they seek independence says 'nope' and invades the new nation to bring it back under their rule. It is wrong for others to support the new nation? And when the big nation wins, you, Para, are OK with when they decide to erase any identity they had?

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Originally posted by chellim1:

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This is about a modern day Hitler using his military to destroy a nation for his ego to become Vlad the Great. And it just isn't Putin trying to regain lost lands, but seize 40% of the worlds grain, and the very large oil deposits under Crimea and off it's coasts.

IrishWind: I believe your reasons are legitimate and sincere. Still, I disagree with US involvement.
The era of the US as world cop has not been good for the US. In our effort to spread freedom and democracy around the world we are losing it at home. A stronger Europe requires weaning off of the tit of the US.

I don't believe the Biden regime's motives are nearly so pure as yours. They have many crimes to cover up. The motives of the military industrial complex aren't so pure either.

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Originally posted by parabellum:

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Originally posted by IrishWind:
But for your consideration, a group of people, with a list of grievances, decides to be independent and form a new nation. And the old nation they seek independence says 'nope' and invades the new nation to bring it back under their rule. It is wrong for others to support the new nation? And when the big nation wins, you, Para, are OK with when they decide to erase any identity they had?

What does the American Civil War have to do with this?

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Originally posted by IrishWind:
PS, screenshots for posterity.