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I'll bet they spent more than $137,000 for the investigation and the movie is a corporation that is bankrupt anyway since they never finished the production. No money will be recovered and they may spend legal fees to determine that. Virtue signaling. ___________________________ Avoid buying ChiCom/CCP products whenever possible. | |||
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The Main Thing Is Not To Get Excited |
Piercing the corporate veil Overview of link "Piercing the corporate veil" refers to a situation in which courts put aside limited liability and hold a corporation's shareholders or directors personally liable for the corporation’s actions or debts. Veil piercing is most common in close corporations." Where there are lawyers and money in the same zip code it always stays interesting. Maybe ol' Alec can still get the bitch-slap he so richly deserves. _______________________ | |||
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The Civil lawsuit will be awesome | |||
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Has anyone found the actual order, as opposed to summaries of it? Edit - Found it here: https://www.env.nm.gov/occupat...of-Investigation.pdf | |||
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Why don’t you fix your little problem and light this candle |
I wonder about how fast they were to charge the gunshop owner who 'accidentally' shot a colleague. But hey, Alec is free to this day. What a joke. So I leave this here: That little popgun going off make me laugh everytime. This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it. -Rear Admiral (Lower Half) Joshua Painter Played by Senator Fred Thompson | |||
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As bad as the Baldwin incident was, I don’t believe it approaches the wanton irresponsible recklessness of the shooting in the South Carolina gun shop. ► 6.4/93.6 | |||
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Police interview of Baldwin. About 3 hours after the shooting. https://www.abqraw.com/post/po...-after-rust-shooting . | |||
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A Grateful American |
I am not buying the "story". It seems too pat to have a loaded Glock** in with the stock. <Vincent Gambini> "Are we to believe: A. A single "in stock" Glock 17, just happened to be loaded, and chambered, and just happened to be the one "accidently" picked up instead of the known "BB gun" he had placed there? B. Were all the Glock 17's "in stock" loaded and chambered?" </Vincent Gambini> **("... brought the BB gun to work and placed it among the store’s stock of real Glock 17 handguns. ..." where one (or more) Glock 17s, happened to be loaded?) Just not ready to by a perfect storm. I'm thinking a whole lotta story not being known. I would be "...just one more thing..." Lt. Columbo-ing the hell out of everyone. (pardon the drift) "the meaning of life, is to give life meaning" ✡ Ani Yehudi אני יהודי Le'olam lo shuv לעולם לא שוב! | |||
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In the video interview Baldwin was hardly acting like a man who just a few short hours earlier shot and killed another human being. He was clearly in cya mode. He did not seem rattled one bit. The two detectives seemed a bit star struck and Baldwin seemed to enjoy explaining all the nuances that go into movie making. Baldwin seems void of any emotion one would expect. Much like a psychopath. "Fixed fortifications are monuments to mans stupidity" - George S. Patton | |||
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Starting at about 17 minutes into that video, Baldwin states Hanna (the armorer)...
He assumed the gun was totally empty since it was only a rehearsal. No rounds at all are put in the guns for rehearsals. The flash rounds are only put in when they are about to film the scene. Side note: Baldwin also noted the "bullets" you see inside the chamber from the front are made from clay or some material other than a real bullet. Steve Small Business Website Design & Maintenance - https://spidercreations.net | OpSpec Training - https://opspectraining.com | Grayguns - https://grayguns.com Evil exists. You can not negotiate with, bribe or placate evil. You're not going to be able to have it sit down with Dr. Phil for an anger management session either. | |||
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Just what I thought too. | |||
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Look back over the years at things Baldwin has done or said. And his words and actions since the shooting. Is he a psychopath? Nope. He is Hollywood. A ruthless form of narcissism and entitlement. While I dont think that everyone associated with entertainment display these traits there are many who do. Lots of these folks just believe that whatever they want to do is fine and they should not be accountable. End of Earth: 2 Miles Upper Peninsula: 4 Miles | |||
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Be prepared for loud noise and recoil |
Video of rehearsals clearly show his finger on the trigger. Given it’s a single action, I don’t doubt he believes he didn’t pull the trigger. Doesn’t change the fact that he did. Multiple failures. All his fault. “Crisis is the rallying cry of the tyrant.” – James Madison "Keep your fears to yourself, but share your courage with others." - Robert Louis Stevenson | |||
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Apparently the investigation is ongoing. But is it going anywhere? There's nothing about this that should be as pinned down as it's going to be six months after the event. https://nypost.com/2022/04/26/...st-shooting-charges/ Alec Baldwin ‘not off the hook’ for charges over deadly ‘Rust’ shooting: sheriff By Lee Brown April 26, 2022 9:02am Alec Baldwin is still “not off the hook” from criminal charges nearly six months after he accidentally shot and killed cinematographer Halyna Hutchins, the sheriff leading the investigation warned Tuesday. “It’s too early to rule anything out right now,” Santa Fe County Sheriff Adan Mendoza told the “Today” show Tuesday of the massive, ongoing investigation into the Oct. 21 shooting on the New Mexico set of “Rust.” “I don’t think anybody’s off the hook when it comes to criminal charges,” he stressed. “I’ve said this before: I think there was complacency on the set. There was disorganization and a degree of negligence — whether that rises to a criminal level, that will be up to the district attorney,” he said. The sheriff confirmed that there was still the possibility of criminal liability for Baldwin, 66, when asked about the actor’s insistence that he was not responsible, despite being the one holding the gun when the fatal shot was fired. “Whether he’s responsible or not, will be up to the district attorney’s office,” Mendoza insisted. Mendoza — whose office released a trove of videos and documents Monday — said that investigators and prosecutors were still going through a “tremendous amount of information,” with more awaited. “The investigative case right now is 200 plus pages, so there is a lot of information. “We’re still waiting on the forensics from the FBI Crime Lab, along with the final report from the office of the medical investigator, and there’s a few things that we have to shore up with the investigation,” he said. He also said that his team has yet to determine exactly how a live bullet ended up on set — while noting a “concerning” text message from rookie armorer Hannah Gutierrez Reed trying to get live bullets on an earlier set. “Right now, no one’s come forward and admitted it to bringing the live rounds onto the movie set,” Mendoza told “Today.” However, “there was information from text messages that was concerning based on the fact that live ammo was spoken about and was possibly used on a prior movie set. “That was just a few months before the rust movie set and production began, so that is concerning,” he said. | |||
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Happiness is Vectored Thrust |
Oh, OK. Now it makes sense. They're waiting for someone to step up and take responsibility. I'm sure that's going to happen any day now. Glad other departments don't handle crimes this way. "Yeah, we're waiting for the murderer to contact us so we can make an arrest and prosecute." Icarus flew too close to the sun, but at least he flew. | |||
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Staring back from the abyss |
It will when someone other than Baldwin is under the microscope. ________________________________________________________ "Great danger lies in the notion that we can reason with evil." Doug Patton. | |||
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Nullus Anxietas |
Photo posted to Twitter, allegedly of Baldwin with his finger on the trigger just moments before the fatal shot was fired: "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe "If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher | |||
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Yep, that was the big take away for me. Correct me if I am wrong, but in his interview with Stephanopoulos, did he not say his finger was not on the trigger (when that bad gun just went off)? I am pretty sure the video released here just shows him rehearsing before the fatal shot, not the actual shot in this still. But it also very clearly shows he hasn’t ever in his life wasted valuable time rehearsing trigger discipline. He shoulda done less talking and fewer interviews. | |||
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Apparently a video has surfaced showing what happened on the set and the aftermath that ensued. I don't believe it shows anyone actually getting shot. "If you’re a leader, you lead the way. Not just on the easy ones; you take the tough ones too…” – MAJ Richard D. Winters (1918-2011), E Company, 2nd Battalion, 506th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne "Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil... Therefore, as tongues of fire lick up straw and as dry grass sinks down in the flames, so their roots will decay and their flowers blow away like dust; for they have rejected the law of the Lord Almighty and spurned the word of the Holy One of Israel." - Isaiah 5:20,24 | |||
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So now the armorer was on the set, and she was the one who physically handed the gun to AB? Why was it initially reported that it was the Assistant Director who put the weapon in Baldwin's hand? | |||
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