Imagine the election process of a "world government"...

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Originally posted by az4783054:
Imagine the election process of a "world government"...

Plot twist: Trump becomes President of the World.

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Originally posted by az4783054:
Imagine the election process of a "world government"...

A world government won't be 'elected.'

It will be appointed over us by our political masters/betters, whether us peons like it or not.

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Originally posted by Hound Dog:

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Originally posted by az4783054:
Imagine the election process of a "world government"...

A world government won't be 'elected.'

It will be appointed over us by our political masters/betters, whether us peons like it or not.

A world gov't will serve themselves and their cronies first, the people will be subjugated and oppressed. I know of three classes of people who are pro-socialism. 1-those who want a free ticket on the gravy train, 2-those who show compassion for the needy with other people's money (but are quite capitalistic with their own money). 3-those who know full well they will gain power and money.

Will their rule include making sexual assault of young boys legal?

Why would anyone listen to this crap or this organization at all?

Sorry for those that practice with the catholic church. But it's just a shit show.

So, America is the country that gets called out to be ruled by a world government? Not China? Or any other country? Just terrible, unjust America. I guess the pope never considered the possibility of an evil world government either. For some reason a world government is always paradise. Corruption, oppresion, slavery, genocide, oh no that'll never happen when the world's people all join hands.

Francis has done so many things wrong or contrary to the Church already and the beat goes on.
He already gave the Chinese commies authority over the church in China.

Sounds like we got us a good ole fashion SCHISM goin on.

No organisation that starts off preaching peace and love AND charity that has a long and proudly documented history of organised terrorism in the form of the inquisition, often resulting in torture that ended with mass incineration in public could ever hope to get my vote.

Add to that the wholesale destruction of untold millions of indigenous peoples and their entire civilisations and it makes one think hard about the role played by the catholic church in the formation of the world as it is today.

Thankfully, there is push-back against this Pope:

Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò: Deep State is Working With “Deep Church” to Transform Catholic Church into Spiritual Arm of New World Order

A striking claim from a Catholic bishop.

A Catholic Archbishop who formerly served as the Vatican’s ambassador to the United States is accusing elements of the Catholic hierarchy of operating as a “deep church,” working in conjunction with the so-called American deep state

Archbishop Viganò is known as something of a conservative “dissident” within the Catholic episcopate, most notably publicly accusing Pope Francis and other senior Vatican officials of failing to act after being made aware of credible accusations of sexual abuse against now-disgraced American ex-cardinal Theodore McCarrick.


The missive can be read in full at LifeSiteNews. In the letter, Viganò speaks critically of Pope Francis, a practice that is exceptionally rare within the college of Catholic bishops, let alone on the part of an Archbishop who recently served as a prominent member of the Church’s diplomatic hierarchy. Archbishop Viganò speaks of the traditional Jesuit (a religious order in which the Pope began his clerical career) practice of declining positions of authority in the Catholic hierarchy.

Viganò pointed to what he identifies as a “Deep Church” in the letter, arguing that elements within the Catholic hierarchy are working to utilize the Catholic Church to advance a vision of global neoliberal authoritarianism. He references major Catholic bishops in the United States who seem to have at least implicitly endorsed Joe Biden- a staunchly pro-abortion Democrat.

“The United States is witnessing the highest levels and centers of cultural influence of the American Catholic Church shamelessly siding in favor of the Democratic candidate and more generally in favor of the entire apparatus that has been consolidating in recent decades within the public administration.

The Deep State, Trump’s sworn enemy, is joined by a Deep Church that spares no criticisms and accusations against the incumbent President while winking indecorously with Biden and BLM, slavishly following the narration imposed by the mainstream. It matters little that Trump is openly pro-life and defends the non-negotiable principles that the Democrats have renounced – the important thing is to transform the Catholic Church into the spiritual arm of the New World Order, so as to have an imprimatur from the highest moral authority in the world, something that was impossible with Benedict XVI.”

Senior American Catholic leaders such as Cardinal Joseph Tobin, the Archbishop of Newark, have essentially endorsed the unlimited abortion supporter.

Viganò goes on to rebuke nominally ‘Catholic’ left-wing American politicians for their support of far-left, anti-Christian political causes.

“Prodi and Gentiloni in Italy – and we would also add Premier Conte, given his origin and his education – have their counterparts on the American side in so-called Catholic personalities like Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi, and Andrew Cuomo: all of them proudly support abortion and gender indoctrination, and all of them are proudly in favor of the Antifa and Black Lives Matter movements that are setting entire American cities on fire.”

Viganò also points to the “abandonment of the Chinese Catholic community” he identifies a recent agreement between the Vatican and the Communist Chinese government as, lauding Secretary of State Michael Pompeo for condemning the agreement.

“Why does the Vatican, which is silent in the face of the Democratic party’s support for abortion and the violation of the most basic human rights in China, consider the Trump Administration to have no right to interfere in an agreement that has obvious repercussions in the international political balance?”

Quite the striking language from the Archbishop. American Catholics who seek to vote in accordance with Catholic moral teaching have serious questions to ask about the Church hierarchy’s fidelity to their religion as it pertains to the public sphere.

https://bigleaguepolitics.com/...-of-new-world-order/

I could just totally ignore Francis. The Papacy has an enormous credit to carry forward from John Paul II, the best Pope EVER.

But this shit bird has caused a lot more damage than Francis in my book.

"President Trump visited the Saint John Paul II National Shrine in Washington on Tuesday, June 2, prompting criticism from Catholics who demonstrated near the Catholic University of America, which is adjacent to the shrine, with some praying the rosary while holding signs reading, “Our Church is Not a Photo Op” and “Black Lives Matter.” Mr. Trump and his wife, Melania, who is Catholic, stood for several minutes in front of a large statue of Saint John Paul II before entering the building.

Archbishop Wilton Gregory, who has led the Archdiocese of Washington for just over a year, condemned the visit in a statement released on Tuesday morning before Mr. Trump’s visit.

“I find it baffling and reprehensible that any Catholic facility would allow itself to be so egregiously misused and manipulated in a fashion that violates our religious principles, which call us to defend the rights of all people even those with whom we might disagree,” the nation’s highest-ranking African-American bishop said."

https://www.americamagazine.or...s-visit-john-paul-ii

Just stuff it Wilton.

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Originally posted by recoatlift:
Take the vow of poverty Frankie. Distribute your wealth.

That's different. Don't ask me why exactly, but it is.

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Thankfully, there is push-back against this Pope:

Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò: Deep State is Working With “Deep Church” to Transform Catholic Church into Spiritual Arm of New World Order

For Catholics, that is the correct response. Don't sit back and take it. Go loud and strong against this particular Pope and his world govt message.

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Originally posted by jhe888:

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Originally posted by recoatlift:
Take the vow of poverty Frankie. Distribute your wealth.

That's different. Don't ask me why exactly, but it is.

It's different in the sense that the trappings of the papacy, like those of our own Presidency are largely thrust upon the occupant of that seat. The Vatican, like the White House, is a fortress, designed to protect the occupant. Some occupants of both have seen it as a prison.

The other difference is that the wealth of the Vatican is not personal to the Pope. It belongs to the Church.

A real Pope would NOT be pushing a one world government.

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The other difference is that the wealth of the Vatican is not personal to the Pope. It belongs to the Church.

That's convenient. Yes, I know, the property belongs to the church, not the pope himself. However, it is the height of hypocrisy for somebody living in the richest country on the planet (per capita) to preach to me and my country about the 'distribution of wealth.'

If he were really serious, the vatican could at least make a token gesture by selling off some of its artwork or treasure to give to the poor. Google says the vatican is worth $15 billion. Even if they would give up 10% of that, it would be $1.5 billion in charity.

Of course, they will never do that. As all socialists do, they advocate that you and I sacrifice 'for the great good,' while they jealously guard their own possessions and wealth.

Joe Biden in a white cossack and skull cap.


The Jesuits Come Home to Roost
By Rick Fuentes

Pope Francis née Jorge Mario Bergoglio, who practices an ecclesiology tailored to the spirit of the times, could easily be mistaken as Joe Biden in a white cossack and skull cap. They share an imperious disposition that takes delight in overturning or diminishing the decrees of their predecessors, overregulate their administrations with orders and encyclicals, are vindictive in their treatment of ideological opponents, look unfavorably upon conservative American Catholics, believe their foundational documents are out of step with modern times, and are hell-bent on transforming their sovereignties. They are both vaccinistas pushing COVID jabs, and climate hypocrites unfazed by their own globetrotting carbon trails as they gaslight their flocks over temperatures, tides, and net zero deadlines. Comfy and guarded in their castle keeps, they are tone deaf to the consequences of open border migration, and exhibit an affective tolerance of regimes that give lip service to religious freedom and human rights.

As ideological bedfellows, Bergoglio has encouraged Joe Biden to continue taking Communion at Sunday Mass, despite his being a passionate advocate for infanticide and the capo di tutti capi for a global wave of human trafficking and child endangerment. Recently, San Francisco Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone barred House Speaker Nancy Pelosi from receiving the Sacrament for her pro-abortion stance. One month later in Rome, Bergoglio publicly humiliated his own prelate by granting the former speaker a private audience and permitting her Communion at a Vatican Mass.

Were it not for his pastoral rearing in the cross currents of politics and Catholicism in Latin America, the ambiguous character, progressivism, and obscure apostolic exhortations of il Papa Francis, would have theologians in a pickle. Bergoglio ascended his Buenos Aires archdiocese as an ordained member of the Society of Jesus, an order identifying its clerics with the initials ‘SJ.’ Founded in the sixteenth century by Saint Ignatius of Loyola, it organized along a military-style chain of command, with a constitution pledging unwavering obedience to the pope, even unto martyrdom. Early Jesuits spread throughout the Old and New Worlds with a missionary zeal, preaching the gospel and rescuing an eroding European Catholicism from the clutches of the Protestant Reformation.

The plight of the indigent populations they evangelized eventually drove them to pursue the causes of social, economic, and political justice. Their devotion to divinity took a back seat to the material needs of their ministries. Jesuit religious training drifted to earthly pursuits and achievements in science and education, putting them in positions of power in universities and as scientists on the world stage. In the mid-twentieth century, radical Jesuits in Latin America preached a violent approach to theology and picked up arms to fight alongside revolutionary movements in Nicaragua, going so far as to assume high political office.

In the sixties, provincials and superiors in the Jesuit hierarchy became increasingly heretical in their relationship to the Holy See and injected a lethal dose of modernism into the Catholic Church. Jesuit theologians, canonists, and prelates were front and center at the Second Vatican Council, elbowing the cardinals in attendance to approve crushing reforms to the age-old celebration of the traditional Catholic Mass, ridding it of its native Latin, lace vestments, Gregorian chants, and incense, as if they were trying to put Protestants into the pews. Decades of intrigues, contempt for papal authority, and rejection of magisterial tradition and faith followed Vatican II, undermining three successive papacies. With the abdication of Benedict XVI in 2013, Jesuits accomplished the unthinkable, sending white smoke up the chimney of the Sistine Chapel and putting a Jesuit on the throne of St. Peter.

Bergoglio is a Franciscan parody who acts and thinks like a Jesuit. In the Vatican, he has sidelined outspoken cardinals loyal to the old ways and staffed the most influential Vatican offices pertaining to Church doctrine and dogma, the faith, synodality and unity, culture, and education, with social liberals of Jesuit upbringing. Prefects in these posts have ghostwritten declarations and encyclicals for Bergoglio that have swung open the Church windows to blessing same-sex couples, idolizing ecology, embracing ecumenicism, condoning homosexuality and transgenderism, and pushing female ordinations. Succession planning is now underway in the Vatican College of Cardinals, with Bergoglian modernists replacing elderly cardinals who are aging out of their voting privileges in the papal conclave.

During his pontificate, Bergoglio has hosted individuals and groups antithetical in words and acts to Church doctrine and dogma under the banner of synodality, discernment, and unity. He has held numerous audiences with LBGTQ+ and transgender activists, hosted nativist celebrations of pagan idols, and embraced Islamist leaders who consider him an apostate. By contrast, he has drawn a bullseye on clerics loyal to the traditional practices of the Catholic liturgy, sidelining or canceling conservative bishops and priests who celebrate the Mass of the Ages.

As seen in other religious orders, bowing to the cultural zeitgeist has brought immorality into the Jesuit ranks. Bergoglio appears disoriented in his approach to the dilemma, encouraging those with same-sex preferences to continue pursuing the priesthood, despite evidence that such tendencies have a near-perfect correlation to the abuse of adolescents. He has shown partisanship in his lukewarm treatment of the most notorious Jesuit predators in the Church, including Cardinal Theodore McCarrick, SJ, Vatican artist Father Marco Ivan Rupnik, SJ, and Father Alfonso Pedrajas, SJ, their victims numbering in the hundreds, whose investigations have either dragged on, or outlived those under scrutiny.

To promote his militant Church agenda, Bergoglio leans heavily on two theological literati, Cardinal Victor Manuel Fernandez S.J., an Argentinian Jesuit pulled up through the ranks by Bergoglio to take over the Vatican’s Dicastery of the Doctrine of the Faith, and Andrea Grillo, a self-inflated lay liturgist at Rome’s Sant’ Anselmo College.

Bringing Fernandez to Rome gave Bergoglio a stranglehold on Church doctrine and morality, even in the face of a Vatican investigation into Fernandez’s literary works linking sexuality and spirituality. Some read like soft pornography, with titles such as “Heal Me with your Mouth. The Art of Kissing,” and, “Mystical Passion,” publications that advocated a perverted ecclesiology rooted in the pleasures of the flesh. In addition to scripting a papal exhortation for Bergoglio allowing divorced and remarried couples to receive Communion, in his first year as cardinal and prefect Fernandez has penned three additional high-profile papal documents that have paved the way for the blessing of same-sex couples; imputed infinite dignity upon man without a mention of salvation, and downplayed the supernatural origin of Marian apparitions and Eucharistic miracles.

Despite his denials, Professore Grillo has his fingerprints all over Bergoglio’s Traditionis Custodes, the 2021 apostolic letter that reversed the edict of his predecessor, Benedict XVI, and put the celebration of the Traditional Latin Mass on life support. Grillo’s ecclesiastical arrogance and outsized Vatican influence is apparent in his well-publicized support for contraception, the blessing of same-sex unions, and female ordinations. He has little faith in the permanency of marriage, and denies that the Body and Blood of Jesus Christ is substantially present in the consecrated bread and wine of the Catholic Mass.

With the help of a Roman Curia overrun by Jesuit priests, bishops, cardinals, and lay loyalists, Bergoglio is building a Trojan Horse within Catholicism, all at once reimagining doctrine, dogma, the catechesis, and liturgy within a secular framework. The bedrock faith is suffering by way of eliminating Church tradition and teachings, celebrating heterodoxy, and putting worldly causes in the place of divine worship.

For their part, the Jesuit hierarchy in the Vatican has put the Catholic Church on a slippery slope to heresy and schism by rejecting their Ignatian call for sanctity and obedience and for accepting more than a century of cultural rot within their order. Disillusioned, some Jesuits are breaking ranks with their superiors. Perhaps it is a whiff of the supernatural that their ordinations and apostolates are shrinking dramatically against the popularity of other priestly orders, a chastisement for leading souls to ignore the hereafter in pursuit of the here and now.

https://www.americanthinker.co...e_home_to_roost.html

The Catholic Church lost me forever back in the 1980's . Long story .

This pope is a South American jesuit, which is already an order that has deep socialist leanings.

What did we expect his sensibilities may be?

Hopefully the next pope will be from Africa. There are some strong, no-bullshit cardinals down there.

There must not be a one world government. The compartmentalism of nations and borders prevents sudden irreversible tyranny. It provides for greater peace and prosperity as a result of insulation from oppression. Only the ignorant and complicit advocate for open borders and a single government.

There is a schism happening across the board in Christianity. The most recent and visible example is the United Methodist Church. It was hijacked by the LGBTQ faction and their doctrine has been changed and codified. Any congregation wishing to disavow the new doctrine can leave but may not continue using the infrastructure. They must find a new building.

This schism is happening in other denominations. The Catholics are being divided as are younger congregations like the LDS church; though it’s early on in the latter case. I’ve seen the very early signs in some Baptist churches too. These divisions all seem to begin as Leftism infuses the doctrine and demonstrates with LGBTQ pressure leveraging the fissures.

This Pope is a Leftist. He has been deceived by the destroying influence. Fortunately, his life is finite and he’s likely only able to tarnish the reputation of the Catholic denomination and temporarily drive out some of the membership.